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By TIM SULLIVAN and AMY FORLITI MINNEAPOLIS©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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bass4funk
The police need to to re-evaluate their testing policies to better weed out People that have the propensity of becoming physically or emotionally unstable that could result in harming or even killing someone, the testing and interview phase takes 6 months and that should give the department enough time to thoroughly dig deep into the applicants past. Apparently, this office had received a lot of complaints before, that’s a red flag, there should be a zero tolerance policy.
Officers should have a 3 month psychic evaluation and review and if there are red flags or many complaints, that officer should be pulled from duty, retrained, re-assigned or terminated.
We should be seeing the entire incident as to what happened once the department releases the body am of the officer and that should really give us all an insight as to what really occurred.
I watched the interview with Floyd’s brother last night absolutely heartbreaking, that guy and his family will never be the same again. He wants the death penalty for the officers that killed his brother and I don’t blame him and the bad thing is, the guy didn’t even resist arrest as the new video shows so this is beyond unacceptable.
The Avenger
In the last month we have been exposed to news about:
1) a father-son combo who hunted down a man for jogging because he looked guilty
2) a woman who called for the police trying to "swat" a man in Central Park
3) extreme police brutality.
These all have something in common...I just can't put my finger on it.
A broad-daylight suffocation of a helpless man, saying he couldn't breathe, while the police watched. There's much more to say, but I can't control the range of emotions from anger to compassion for that poor man and his family.
Maria
People of Colour are being murdered by those meant to protect them as citizens of the US equal to all others, and as humans, and nothing is being done about it. And yet we have someone repeatedly talking about "looting". Wypipo priorities.
I read these stories and I want to break windows too, out of an anger that many people are trying to make out is disproportionate to the racist crimes being committed.
RichardPearce
Seeing as the tactic the Blue Gang has picked to deal with the outrage over their murdering someone in the street is to create a riot (wait until you have a large mostly crowd, then aggressively force them back for a good distance, then retreat. The not so peaceful element will fill in the space you've left, and without the peaceful element in the way, they'll start pushing things, and one they realize that the police aren't going to stop them, looting and rioting tends to happen) I'd be worried too.
Because these police enabled riots are a good way of threatening the politicians and discourage continued protests. And that takes more than one night of riots.
oldman_13
Not only in Minneapolis but other parts of the U.S. people are rioting.
The year 2020 and incidents like these show the underlying racism and rot that pervades America from coast to coast.
u_s__reamer
@bass
Well said, Sir! You can frame that one!
mjeiks
"We don't want peace, we want Equal Rights And Justice"
America was founded on double standards. We are told: "All men are born equal"........well, except for those who don't look European.
Artemis Rogers
The best way to stop the rioting is throw the five murdering cops to the rioters. The next best way would be for the system to give them the justice they so richly deserve which would be murder charges followed by convictions and long prison sentences. The best way to prevent future riots would be to pass laws that crack down on rampant police abuse and near universal impunity for even the most heinous of abuses. Getting fired from your job is not a suitable punishment for murder, rape and/or beating someone to a cripple. And not all White people defend police or obfuscate this matter but you will find its almost only White people who do. This is why BLM does not want in their groups and rightly so. Even I, an American White man, cannot deal with American White people knowing every second one is going try and talk around and downplay what happened and is happening with our blue gang; they often even sport Punisher tattoos now!
u_s__reamer
It's time to get tough on Amerika's boys in blue, but there is no leader on the horizon who has the cojones to clean out the Augean stables that have besmirched and stunk out the country's democratic credentials for the last 60 years. Trump's trademark feeble "sad" displaying his indifference and insincerity doesn't cut the mustard while Biden's emergence from his bunker shows a shockingly frail and befuddled senior of whom little can be expected.
Sneezy
Woah, seems like the police are pretty bad at their jobs if this is their idea of keeping the peace. If they can't murder something they don't like, they're totally useless.
I repeat my demand to abolish the police and replace them with a taxpayer funded organisation that protects citizens, keeps the peace and solves and/or prevents crime. I don't know what we'd call it.
DaDude
During the Ferguson protests, most of the people burning and looting shops and restaurants weren't even from Ferguson. Many of them came from as far as NYC. Do you honestly think Minneapolis residents woke up and came up with the bright idea to burn down their neighborhood?
Sneezy
We cannot expect either of a pair of old white men, who for decades have not only supported but benefited from the racist system that is embodied in police brutality, to adequately address, let alone stop the epidemic of violence and campaign of terror perpetrated by police against people of colour and the impoverished. Only strong, co-ordinated grassroots movements can achieve that.
Strangerland
Unfortunately, Biden may not be an ideal candidate. Clearly neither is Trump. Anything that can be said about Biden can be said about Trump worse. So the choice here must be to choose the one that will choose a better cabinet.
And eight years of an immaculate Obama administration (about which the orangeadmin has an inferiority complex), we all know that Biden will choose a better cabinet.
Joe Blow
That'll teach Target and Auto Zone to stop killing people! Oh wait.
Why aren't the rioters smashing up police stations?
Low-class people use this situations as excuses to loot. Imagine if your business was smashed up and looted because of something some cop did? Are you legally allowed to pepper looters with buckshot in Minn.?
Sneezy
They would get murdered and their killers would be given raises.
Sneezy
Depends. Are you white?
Toasted Heretic
Completely understand the riot and looting.
By hitting property, it makes headlines and scares the capitalist system that profits on division. Bombarded with images and adverts of material goods, some that are hardly affordable... well, it's an obvious target.
Class war. The rich loot people's lives every day.
I think after generations of racism, the rioters are being remarkably reserved.
Sneezy
Toasted Heretic is right.
bass4funk
No, that would never work, the problem can be solved by better training and that starts with the screening process.
I don’t, no reason to do it, absolutely none, they’re adults, not kids.
What? Dear lord....
Class war. The rich loot people's lives every day.
Anyway, the bottom line is, you have to be smart and you have to use common sense, MLK achieved this by being logical, calm, rational and on point and these rioters and looters seem to have forgotten that critical message.
bass4funk
Yes, it would, there are many psychological profile says that you can do to determine whether a person is suitable for the position or not.
Sneezy
I'm not a liberal.
You're claiming the mantle of MLK: I'm quoting him. Don't take it up with me, take it up with him.
Toasted Heretic
MLK was murdered.
We all remember that.
The message is pretty clear.
The elite only cares when their property and capital is threatened.
bass4funk
Sorry, doesn’t wash, now if you want to take the Malcolm X retort...fine, I guess, but it won’t validate any destruction you cause to other people. Every rioter and looter should be looked up for 3-5 years, that should get them thinking before engaging in despicable acts like this.
Toasted Heretic
For context, look at what happened in the occupied 6 counties.
Or anywhere that people are brutalized.
You really think we're just going to accept murder, discrimination and domination?
Sneezy
"Better screening" doesn't get rid of the murderers who are in the police now, at this very moment, nor does it address the systemic incentives that the police have to terrorise people of colour and the poor.
We can get rid of that by firing all the current members of the police, screen them for suitability, and have them reapply to be members of a totally different organisation with different goals and incentives.
Which I agree with.
Because it would be abolishing the police.
bass4funk
Of course, how much sense does it make to destroy your own community? You are punishing and advocating to punish the very people you claim to represent as being oppressed by now crippling their way of life? Liberal thought process...wow! Lol
Sneezy
I accept your surrender.
Malcolm was right.
Why don't we arrest murderers first?
Toasted Heretic
Carry on punishing the punished.
Cos that's worked for centuries, eh?
Tear down those ivory towers.
bass4funk
But it can deter future potential and problematic candidates.
A few, not all, let’s not generalize, my uncle is a cop and follows the law to a tee.
You could do that and weed out all the problem officers, Giuliani did, he fired 80% of the then corrupt police department when he was mayor, so that’s one option.
bass4funk
You have that everywhere, cops are being brutalized all the time, their lives matters as well.
You shouldn’t and the community shouldn’t tolerate rioting and looting thugs and the police shouldn’t allow or tolerate disobedience, destruction of property and never allow themselves to be targeted for assault and attacks.
jeancolmar
Looting and arson are terrible things, but you cannot compare them to the police killing of an innocent and non-violent Black man. Things can be repaired and rebuilt. A dead man cannot be brought back to life.
The cops who were responsible for George Floyd's death were fired almost immediately by their police department. But they have yet to be charged. They should have been charged immediately.
American cops can get away with murder. I hope it will be different this time.
Toasted Heretic
You appear to be in favour of maintaining the status quo and preferring capital over black lives.
You'd rather the poor and the dispossessed are good little serfs.
As long as everyone knows their place.
No more.
elephant200
Those killer cops will be free, they wont be in jail! The American police union is protecting them! Sad but true! Thats so much for American justice!
bass4funk
Color has nothing to do with rioting and looting, I’m definitely against it.
Ok, so what does that have to do with the destruction of public and private property? Don’t you think that the poor people want to go to stores as well and buy things? But if the stores are destroyed then they can’t, so essentially these people are punishing their own?
There is a reason why we have laws, without them, we are no different than animals.
Joe Blow
What if your small business, which was already doing poorly because of coronavirus, was smashed up and looted? Bear in mind that insurance doesn't cover rioting. What if that meant the end of your business?
People who say such things have never started or run a business in their life.
bass4funk
This is exactly what I’m talking about, but for some reason liberals could care less, it’s all about the moment, let the people deal with the aftermath themselves in the meantime, I’m going to snag this TV, but yes, I’m appalled by what happened to Floyd.
Why liberals can’t let the political process work out?.
No! It’s never a reasonable response to destroy property and if I were an owner of a business, I wouldn’t allow it.
https://twitter.com/TechHelp/status/1266014941900935168?s=20
I wonder if the rioters would try and take these guys on? Methinks they wouldn’t.
Not all cops
bass4funk
So go in your backyard or your own home and break stuff, I’m fine with that. What does stealing a TV have anything to do with anger and grief of what happened, any liberal want to comment? How about clearing out an Autozone?
They could of they don’t start shooting people.
Sneezy
When you refuse justice to communities for generations, this is exactly how the political process plays out.
?? You've claimed numerous times to be the owner of your own business. Or did you forget?
Doesn't matter. Enough murder and brutality has been meted out by people in one organisation: the police. Endless "listening exercises" and milquetoast "reforms" haven't changed anything. The only solution is abolition.
You don't know that. Why aren't you calling for it to happen now? People left with no recourse but to riot after generations of abuse need to be locked up for years this instant, no trial, but a cop murders someone on video and you go "eh, we can deal with it later"??
Toasted Heretic
I've tried to explain here and on other topics how people resort to rioting when their dignity is repeatedly taken from them.
The quickest way to get on the headlines is to tear stuff up. It comes from generations of frustration, of being trampled on. Of having friends and family stopped by the cops/soldiers all the time. Of having to attend a funeral of someone who was killed by a racist in a uniform.
The people of Palestine. London. The 6 counties.
There's some context for you, if you care to consider it.
When you treat (and refer to )people like "animals", don't be surprised if some of us start acting up.
Goodlucktoyou
USA is on the brink.
2 choices...go to war or break up like the former Soviet Union.
Toasted Heretic
Careful, zichi.
Call him up on his contradictions and bigotry and you'll be suspended.
bass4funk
But you don’t know if it was racially motivated. Shame on your for implying that.
Yes
Did they attack, riot, loot and attack people? It may be illegal, but so is infringing on their 2nd amendment rights, but even if it’s illegal, who did they physically harm?
They haven’t and why aren’t illegals around or near them? Hmmmm...
Toasted Heretic
Got a better choice. Reject the elite. Take them out of the equation by redistributing their ill-gotten gains. Give the workers control and the means of production. The coming together of the working classes and an end to the pointlessness of racism will be achieved once the rich and shameless are divested of their power and capital.
Sneezy
Yes I suppose that pointing out that a member of a racist organisation murdered a minority on camera with casual disregard for the consequences isn’t as bad as calling someone racist.
Ah, so it’s okay to do something illegal, if you see something else illegal being done? Great! Then it’s okay to riot when you witness a murderer go unpunished, we finally got through to you!
Toasted Heretic
Derailing the thread in order to move the narrative away from the injustices done to black people and focus on armed white men's rights.
Blatant.
bass4funk
And the law will put them in their place.
Yes and no, but I’m smart so I would never riot or loot or hurt someone else’s business. I wasn’t raised like that.
Yes, it always matters when it comes to attacking private and public property, if you want to destroy things, do it in your own home. Leave others out of it.
That won’t happen and not all cops do this, the majority overwhelmingly don’t.
On this one, I’m very sure they will.
I have and you would have noticed that, but so many liberals on JT are so emotional they see things for what they want to see them and fail to listen to the entire story.
Ok, you keep making excuses for thuggish behavior.
bass4funk
Oh, dear lord.....
Prove that the cop was racist, I’m not saying he is or isn’t, but for some reason liberals are Clairvoyants.
I never said that, so once again, these people have not done anything wrong as far as hurting people, shooting them or destroyed any property. If they were doing the same for each behavior then they would be on the same level as well, but they didn’t.
bass4funk
I’m laser focused on Floyd, the rioters and looters, why aren’t liberals?
Why do liberals constantly talk race, race, race.