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Netanyahu on U.S. threat to withhold arms: Israel will fight with its 'fingernails' if needed

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The US and other countries should be arming Hamas.

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Mr KiplingToday  06:58 am JST

The US and other countries should be arming Hamas.

And who would be returning Iran to a path of peace if the US did that?

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The US and other countries should be arming Hamas.

Curious, I wouldn't have guessed you to be in favor of us sending arms abroad. Anyone else you want our weapons to go to?

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President Joe Biden has urged Israel not to go ahead with such an operation over fears it would exacerbate the humanitarian catastrophe in the Palestinian enclave. 

Biden has to say this out loud in an election year. But, beneath the surface, the U.S. wants Hamas to disappear from the face of the earth just like Israel does. Bibi knows his role here is to be the bad cop.

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Netanyahu on U.S. threat to withhold arms: Israel will fight with its 'fingernails' if needed

AIPAC now becoming more active pulling strings.

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https://theintercept.com/2024/05/08/rafah-israel-invasion-aipac-lobby/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-gop-drafting-biden-impeachment-articles-israel-aid-cutoff-threat

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So which countries still supply weapon to occupier so they continue kill babies and children?

https://www.reuters.com/world/who-are-israels-main-weapons-suppliers-who-has-halted-exports-2024-05-09/

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Some still continues such as, Britain, German and US

However some already stopped, Canada, Netherland, Italy

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American do not like control by outsiders,it like holy water has been sprayed on a vampire

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He sound Hitler vowing to continue to the end with the "finally solution"!

This isn't meant to shock, it is meant to point out how somewhere along the why the leader(s) of Israel took a seriously wrong turn and have now become what their ancestors once said should never happen again!

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Look who will likely an arrest warrant, so scared so really need to pull strings through US congress.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/29/netanyahu-icc-war-crimes

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Antique,the American taxpayers will stop Israel

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Sak,the US Congress do have any authority over international court ,they are just blowing smoke out their butts

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"Continue fighting with our fingernails "

Now that sounds desperate.

Havent bombs and bullets done enough....now Netanyahu wants to scratch people as well.?

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You may have weapons to kill Hamas, but NOT to kill women and children. Why don’t you understand this?

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Antique,the American taxpayers will stop Israel

In fact some people aware and step up protest for this issue,

they do have objection that their tax money being used for killing babies and children.

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/these-americans-wont-pay-for-the-war-on-gaza/

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It's a shame to see a people who were once so terribly persecuted, now become the persecutors. I think the current regime in Israel has lost the respect and support it once had.

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If we need to, we will fight with our fingernails. But we have much more than fingernails.”

4 billion in military aid annually from the U.S. to be precise.

“The army has munitions for the missions it plans, and for the missions in Rafah, too -- we have what we need,” he said in response to a question at a news conference.

Sounds like you're good then. No need to send anything more.

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Sak,the US Congress do have any authority over international court ,they are just blowing smoke out their butts

The US doesn’t recognize the authority of any international court and I’m pretty sure has stated they would basically go to war if the ICC or ICJ tried to prosecute a U.S. citizen

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stormcrow

Today 07:37 am JST

You may have weapons to kill Hamas, but NOT to kill women and children. Why don’t you understand this?

Because he is a genocidal maniac and Racist and his obsession with his version of the final solution is all he can see or cares about.

Like all past racist, genocidal maniac leaders, he is willing to take his whole country and its people down with him instead of dropping his obsession and genocide goals .

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Because he is a genocidal maniac and Racist and his obsession with his version of the final solution is all he can see or cares about.

Like all past racist, genocidal maniac leaders, he is willing to take his whole country and its people down with him instead of dropping his obsession and genocide goals .

Im just curious: if it’s a genocide why haven’t more Palestinians been killed? Doesn’t Israel have the munitions to wipe Gaza off the map?

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Hamas has demanded guarantees for an end to the war and a full Israeli withdrawal from Gaza as part of any deal — steps Israel has ruled out.

I bet they have. They have their idiot college supporters chirping their garbage as well. Finish them Israel. Free Palestine from the Hamas savages who play by no rules and are beyond redemption. They will only poison another generation if they get the free pass that all these do gooding fools scream for. The Hamas death-cult mind virus has penetrated the weak, entitled, virtue signaling ignorant minds of the left. No need to mince words anymore. You can have them as far as I’m concerned.

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Havent bombs and bullets done enough....now Netanyahu wants to scratch people as well.?

Yes. Because he's the rabid human animal.

Because he is a genocidal maniac and Racist and his obsession with his version of the final solution is all he can see or cares about.

Like all past racist, genocidal maniac leaders, he is willing to take his whole country and its people down with him instead of dropping his obsession and genocide goals .

Exactly. Well said.

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boneInTheZone

Today 07:52 am JST

Because he is a genocidal maniac and Racist and his obsession with his version of the final solution is all he can see or cares about.

> Like all past racist, genocidal maniac leaders, he is willing to take his whole country and its people down with him instead of dropping his obsession and genocide goals .

> Im just curious: if it’s a genocide why haven’t more Palestinians been killed? Doesn’t Israel have the munitions to wipe Gaza off the map?

He isn't killing fast enough for you?

Wait! We have heard that before!

Right, bullets were taking too much time so special "showers" were built!

You history is interesting!

It tells us it wasn't and still isn't that easy to kill million of civilians with guns quickly.

Camps and special equipment, starvation, etc..do that fast and better.

But bibi know that and is moving in that direction.

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I think the current regime in Israel has lost the respect and support it once had

I think so. Those still showing unconditional support for Netanyahu’s regime are coming across as a bit sick now.

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Those still showing unconditional support for Netanyahu’s regime are coming across as a bit sick now.

Hear! Hear!

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The word "war" (against Hamas) is used to justify the unjustifiable carnage in Gaza (yet Western civilization is supposed to have evolved since Dresden, Hiroshima, Cambodia etc.) while "resistance" is no longer in the vocabulary of Israel's arms supplier and life support, the rightwing rulers of a people who owe their independence to a violent struggle against the autocratic rule of a king and his occupying army. They may have forgotten their history, but the Palestinians have not forgotten theirs. The invasion of Rafah and the expected cost in human life and suffering will surely concentrate the minds of the ICC and put a cherry on the cake of "antisemitism" baked for the world by Netanyahu and his ruthless zionist army.

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""Netanyahu said “if we have to stand alone, we will stand alone. If we need to, we will fight with our fingernails. But we have much more than fingernails.”"

fingernails!?? Cant even win this war with all of the west support and war machines.

Bibi needs to take a reality check, better yet resign and walk to the nearest courthouse.

Bibi could not even score a single goal of his war on Gaza, and yet he want's to bite the hands that feeds him.

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""The US and other countries should be arming Hamas.""

Many are calling exactly for that option, at least for a short period of time to balance the battlefield.

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Hamas is an elected legitimate government for Palestine. The terrorists are the ones slaughtering innocent people. US and Europe are supplying weapons to terrorists all around the world.

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Few Stingers will calm Bibi down and bring him to the negotiating table.

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It sends a discordant message at a time when Hamas is holding out on a hostage deal in the hopes that pressure will grow on Israel and it will gain a cease-fire without having to give anything in return,” said the Israel Policy Forum, a pro-Israel organization based in New York.

What a load of absolute bunk! Hamas already agreed to a staged ceasefire whereby all hostages would be released! That's not good enough for the war criminals in Israel though because they want to demolish the rest of the inhabitable buildings in Gaza and evict it's citizens to Egypt!

Joe has already sent enough weapons to Israel to do this. The current ban is just window dressing to make him look like he cares and to help with his election hopes!

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Hamas has a choice, surrender to a UN peacekeeping force, so sparing Rafah, the Palestinian people from a devasting ground offensive/invasion.

Or agree with US/UN logistical support, organise a methodology to evacuate the civilian population kettled in Rafah to a "safe haven" and fight to last soldier.

My cynicism suggests this whole pretence of "U.S. threat to withhold arms" is a sham, to shore up political support for Joe Biden election campaign, to embellish garner the US youth/pro Palestinian vote.

Joe Biden attempt to delay taking the vital decisions to compel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to find a constraint to his overwhelming brutal requital, retribution now has consequences beyond his control.

The risk now of a full middle eastern military confrontation is closer than ever before.

Containment is now imperative.

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""It's a shame to see a people who were once so terribly persecuted, now become the persecutors. I think the current regime in Israel has lost the respect and support it once had.""

Well Put.

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Military intervention against Israel soon.

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Free Palestine from the Hamas savages who play by no rules and are beyond redemption.

In Israels eyes this is the entire population of Gaza.

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What a load of absolute bunk! Hamas already agreed to a staged ceasefire whereby all hostages would be released! That's not good enough for the war criminals in Israel though because they want to demolish the rest of the inhabitable buildings in Gaza and evict it's citizens to Egypt!

Exactly.

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Military intervention against Israel soon.

Hear! Hear!

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He isn't killing fast enough for you?

Wait! We have heard that before!

Right, bullets were taking too much time so special "showers" were built!

You history is interesting!

It tells us it wasn't and still isn't that easy to kill million of civilians with guns quickly.

Camps and special equipment, starvation, etc..do that fast and better.

But bibi know that and is moving in that direction.

You didn’t answer my question so I’ll ask it again: if it’s a genocide why haven’t more Palestinians been killed? Doesn’t Israel have the munitions to wipe Gaza off the map?

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itsonlyrocknroll

Today 09:29 am JST

Hamas has a choice, surrender to a UN peacekeeping force

Seriously?

Israel has pushed through attacked and killed UN peacekeepers on multiple occasions in the past, brushing them aside and killing them if they don't!

And you expect Hamas to surrender to the UN peacekeepers!?

One hour after they do, Israel will violate any agreement and force the peacekeepers to hand over Hamas members kill them all and the USA will veto any security council resolutions.

The UN assembly will pass a 29th resolution condemning Israel.

Israel has attack UNRWA facilities on multiple occasions and lied about every single one including the last one.

UN investigation asked Israel to provide the proof it has UNRWA personnel were involved in October 7th and strangely Israel didn't and couldn't.

The conclusion was it didn't happen!

The same happen in 2024, 2023, 2022, ......as Israel hits UN peacekeepers then claims they didn't do it or that Hezbollah, or some other group was firing from the location, except no one was.

Israel violated international law using fake passports from countries like Canada to conduct assignations in other countries.

You think they will sit back and just let the peacekeepers take Hamas into custody?

They are killing tens of thousands just to get a few hundred Hamas a few peacekeepers wouldn't stand a chance.

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Yes Antiquesaving

Lets visit this proposal, "surrender" is a term associated with acquiesce.

However, when combined with a ceasefire, the release of hostages, the laying down of arms, this proposed peacekeeping force be comprised of a global armed force capable of escorting Hamas milltary to a third country.

All sides can view such proposals as a compromise without capitulation.

It also can offer the people of Palestine a future.

That future could be under Israeli occupation, however future generations will being about change, they will.

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You didn’t answer my question so I’ll ask it again: if it’s a genocide why haven’t more Palestinians been killed? 

Becasue there IS a red line that noone can cross and get away without consequences. Israel is an evil state in its current form, but they are not stupid.

Israel is playing the slow game. Killing civilians here, bulldozing their houses there, a bit of starvation over there, some more killing back over here. Causing distractions by poking Iran, drawing focus to absolute non-issues on US college campuses and UK protests.

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The US sat in Judgement at both

Nuremburg and Tokyo war crimes trials...yet up to this point have enabled Israel's war crimes...it's about time they stop being a prty to these crimes

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is not a patriot, his incompetence in office, his failure to protect the people of Israel is complete.

A devastating war, a global community aghast in horror. Rampant antisemitism throughout Europe/US.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu government will be held accountable ultimately by his own people.

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itsonlyrocknroll

Today 10:07 am JST

Yes Antiquesaving

> Lets visit this proposal, "surrender" is a term associated with acquiesce.

> However, when combined with a ceasefire, the release of hostages, the laying down of arms, this proposed peacekeeping force be comprised of a global armed force capable of escorting Hamas milltary to a third country.

> All sides can view such proposals as a compromise without capitulation.

> It also can offer the people of Palestine a future.

> That future could be under Israeli occupation, however future generations will being about change, they will.

That may be if you were dealing with a country that respects the laws and its signed agreements!

Israel has broken every agreement it has made!

It has expanded settlements, taken land, attacked civilians, UN facilities, killed peacekeepers, assassinated people using fake passports of other neutral nations, it is in violation of 28 UN resolutions, annexed the Golan heights despite saying it wouldn't, etc...

So how can anyone trust them?

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Becasue there IS a red line that noone can cross and get away without consequences. Israel is an evil state in its current form, but they are not stupid.

So if the redline is an indicator that genocide is being committed and Israel hasn’t crossed that redline, what validity to the claim that a genocide is happening is there?

Israel is playing the slow game. Killing civilians here, bulldozing their houses there, a bit of starvation over there, some more killing back over here. Causing distractions by poking Iran, drawing focus to absolute non-issues on US college campuses and UK protests.

So they’re committing a genocide by not killing as many civilians as they could, not starving as many people as they could and not destroying as much infrastructure as they can? None of these actions could qualify as evidence of an ongoing genocide

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President Joe Biden has urged Israel not to go ahead with such an operation over fears it would exacerbate the humanitarian catastrophe in the Palestinian enclave.

Well, if Hamas, which has genocide of the Jews in it founding Charter, might want to stop using civilians as human shields. Israel has already allowed the Arabs to occupy Gaza, but Gaza's ruling militant group wants to put those occupiers at risk of injury and death.

Time for the 2 state solution to be formalized--have the occupying Arabs reintegrate into the countries they came from such as Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Iraq---actually it's like a 8-state solution.

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It is a war crime to deny aid to the civilian population that is under siege and occupation.

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It is a war crime to deny aid to the civilian population that is under siege and occupation.

Agreed Hamas should be punished for this.

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zibala

Today 10:50 am JST

It is a war crime to deny aid to the civilian population that is under siege and occupation.

> Agreed Hamas should be punished for this

Except it isn't Hamas doing it.

It wasn't Hamas doing it for over 50 years, it wasn't Hamas the hit UNRWA facilities for the passed 40 years and never gave proof for any of its claims.

It wasn't Hamas holding 6000 hostages for the passed 2 plus decades, it isn't Hamas in violation if 28 UN resolutions, it isn't Hamas that has killed over 6000 civilians since 2009 before October 7th, it isn't Hamas torturing prisoners, it isn't Hamas stealing land with illegal settlements using violence, etc ..

That is all Israel.

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Except it isn't Hamas doing it.

Hamas just recently hijacked an aid shipment lol

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/05/03/hamas-diverts-jordan-aid-convoys-in-gaza/

It wasn't Hamas doing it for over 50 years, it wasn't Hamas the hit UNRWA facilities for the passed 40 years and never gave proof for any of its claims.

Palestine is literally the largest recipient of aid in the world what are you taking about?

it isn't Hamas torturing prisoners

Uhh They torture and rape what are you even talking about?

it isn't Hamas stealing land with illegal settlements using violence, etc ..

They would in a second if they could, they just get beat by the IDF everytime they try

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itsonlyrocknroll

Today 10:07 am JST

I understand what you are trying to say.

But I would point you to go read the agreement signed between Israel and the PLO

Then I would ask you to check if Israel has kept to that agreement!?

But sadly it hasn't.

First it took land it agreed was Palestinian and put a wall well inside Palestinian territories and threaded military action if the Palestinian authority tried doing anything.

Then it took more land to build roads to the agreed 140 settlements and built walls cutting off parts of the Palestinian territories and cutting Palestinian families land blocking them from crossing their own land.

Then it armed settlers who then took more land, and built another 140 settlements in violation of the signed agreements and used the IDF to stop Palestinian authority police from doing anything.

Then when the UN and other aid groups built water cisterns in Palestinian territories under UN plans and Palestinian authority.

Israel sends in the IDF to blow them up including "detaining" UN personnel while they blow up the cisterns, the reason given, "because they may use it to steal water from the illegal settlements nearby!

This was the result of the supposed great peace deal and it failed because Israel doesn't respect anything it agrees to if it doesn't want to.

Today Hamas is now growing in the West Bank, why?

Because the Palestinian authority is see as weak unable to stop Israel from doing what it pleases in what was supposed to be an autonomous area.

So no, sadly Israel has proven over and over like Hamas and other terrorist, it also cannot be trusted.

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Yes Antiquesaving, the Government of Israel has not complied with a single UN security council resolution.

However both Hamas and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu government must be compelled to with sanctions, such sanctions must have the bite to achieve a conclusion.

All side must compromise.

With or without 'fingernails'.

The peacekeeping force, must be supported with an miliary support infrastructure comprised of US/UK/EU/Global military personal under a strict mandate.

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Maybe now the tyrant will learn that sometimes it’s best to pick your battles.

The Israeli government must really be hurting in order to use tactics of fear of their collective neighbors wiping them out, to do the same to Gazan Palestinians. They must be betting that they can wipe out enough of HAMAS to act as a deterrent so their other regional neighbors treat them more. . neighborly than Palestinians in Gaza were.

May peace prevail.

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JboneInTheZone

Today 11:08 am JST

Uhh They torture and rape what are you even talking about

I wrote torture and I didn't write rape, please don't try putting false statements on me

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-180671/

The above is just one of dozens!

These go back decades and a more damning report it about to be published!

https://www.dci-palestine.org/ucc_passes_resolution_to_support_palestinian_child_detainees

This one pops back up every year also.

I could post reports from the UK, USA, UN EU, amnesty international, you name it!

These didn't start after October 7th they started decades ago and continue to this day.

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itsonlyrocknroll

Today 11:17 am JST

I agree both must be force to comply.

But how?

Any UN force would have to be authorized to fire on Israeli troops if needed and be sufficiently equipped to do so.

The USA will never agree nor will Israel so it is a null and void before it can even get on the table!

Tell us, do you honestly think the USA and Israel would agree to a peacekeeping force with enough firepower to fight the IDF and with authority to do so if needed?

I say no.

But perhaps you have a different opinion.

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Israel has no choice but to "fight with our fingernails if we have to" as it's been under attack by hostile neighbors since its inception. Any ceasefire will just be followed by another attack...then another attack...then another...and another...ad infinitum

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itsonlyrocknroll

Today 11:17 am JST

However both Hamas and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu government must be compelled to with sanctions, such sanctions must have the bite to achieve a conclusion.

I will say this, I cannot see sanctions being very effective on Hamas or any Palestinian.

The squalor Israel has made both the West Bank and Gaza live in for 7 decades has made them near impervious to everything.

They have become masters at recycling everything, they run their vehicles of used cooking oil. The build homes out of anything the can find, they are masters at smuggling in food, cooking oil, construction materials, etc ..

30,000 plus dead and they haven't given up not just Hamas but the Palestinians as a whole!

Israel thought they could break them but in the end created a monster that has proven it can resist and survive just about everything one can throw at them.

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Antiquesaving,

The how is the challenge.

Yes, the mandate would need to be given the full endorsement to use force in the instance of non compliance.

All IDF forces must withdraw to facilitate such a proposal.

All Hamas forces must also withdraw and be afforded safe passage to third country.

That is only half the proposal. The next challenge will be Gaza and its future for Palestinians.

Impossible?

Few such proposals are impossible. Our political leadership constantly convinces us they are.

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Geeter Mckluskie

Today 11:39 am JST

Israel has no choice but to "fight with our fingernails if we have to" as it's been under attack by hostile neighbors since its inception. Any ceasefire will just be followed by another attack...then another attack...then another...and another...ad infinitum

Only one problem with that narrative. It's false!

In the past decades, it has been Israel that has attacked, attacked and attacked, including firing on unarmed civilians UNRWA facilities, hospitals and schools always claiming it was just defending itself or that somebody was firing from there only to be proven wrong and never to give any proof as they claim they have just like the recent accusations against UNRWA personnel being involved in the October 7th attack. It was false. Israel could not supply even one piece of evidence to the investigation.

Israel has invaded its neighbors more often than the other way around, especially in recent years, Israel has stolen more Palestinian land even after agreeing not to Israel's expanded its settlements in the occupied territories by double, despite agreeing not to.

Israel has created its hostile neighbors and it's hostile internals.

21% of its population is non-jewish but represented by less than 3% in the government. The Arabs affair committee had zero Arabs on it until 2023 when one token Arab was added without the right to vote.

It's funny Israel claims to be the victim all the time, but since 2009 Israel has killed 6,000 Palestinians 40% of whom were women and children Israeli settlers in that same. Killed 1, 000 Palestinians, mostly elderly and taken their land to build an extra 140 settlements.

In that same. According to Israel's own numbers fewer than 400 Israelis were killed by Palestinians.

Who is actually the victim here?

And just so you know, the numbers above are from the UN and Israel not any Palestinian authority or Hamas

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itsonlyrocknroll

Today 11:47 am JST

I admirer your optimism I wish I could have the same.

But having watch the s fest brew for decades into a putrid mess it is now, I cannot see it ever happening.

Sadly I see this ending with hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinians, Israel's neighbours building up arms and the eventual war in a more even scale which the USA will intervene and a 2 party solution will happen with a smaller Israel and a lot more dead to get to that point!

That is unless Israel dumps Netanyahu and starts actually negotiations giving the Palestinians a single unified land and their own unarmed country.

But even that is highly unlikely.

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