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Cards fan
Ah, so political appointees unaccountable to the public. Very Democratic and very small government. Lol
Yes, it's very good and normal for politicians to punish corporations for exercising free speech to voice opinions they disagree with. Also very Democratic.
I hope the financial hit local municipalities are about to take is worth it. Great going, Ron.
bass4funk
That’s an absolute farce.
Yes.
Yes, but also Disney has a responsibility as one of the largest and most powerful corporation on the planet that provides family and children entertainment to stay neutral and stay out of politics and stop pushing its personal ideology on to the public.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/mar/21/disney-faces-backlash-lgbtq-controversy-dont-say-gay-bill-florida
https://nypost.com/2023/01/09/desantis-reignites-fight-to-end-disney-worlds-self-governing-powers/
This is why the guy is a rock star.
Bob Fosse
What instrument does he play? Oh, you mean for taking on a $2 billion debt? Yeah, well done.
Strangerland
That's an acceptable price to win a battle in the culture war isn't it?
Cards fan
Nope. I quoted the article. They're not elected, they're not accountable the public.
No. Unelected, unaccountable appointees isn't small government.
Lol no they don't. Don't believe me? Read citizens united. Companies have free speech rights.
Yes, he's a rockstar, because he's an authoritarian. Bless.
bass4funk
Awesomest in G-major
Neither is Disney and they’re held to account.
Have you even seen the Florida assembly???
Not according to the mounting complaints that continue to pummel the corporation.
Bob Fosse
desantis has been floating this idea since last spring and is yet to announce a plan regarding how he’ll avoid taxpayers being hit with a massive debt burden.
bass4funk
Knowing DeSantis that’ll come soon enough.
Cards fan
Lol what does that have to do with fact that this panel is unelected, and unaccountable?
Lol this isn't how constitutionality is decided. They have the right to speak in the US, and guests have the right to boycott, but I don't see that happening.
This is no different than when fundies got all upset about gay days in Disney in the 90s.
Bob Fosse
Then you’ll know that he promised a plan soon back in April last year.
wallace
A rock star makes music but DeSantis can't even play a harmonious tune just another broken record.
RKL
It makes sense.
The state of Florida governing state of Florida land.
sunfunbun
Typically, the GOP takes a subject concerning education of essentially what is an LBGTQ enlightenment and awareness issue, and turn it into a political fight. It is a bias and a fear of a very real part of human life and not only does it educate, but helps kids to realize differences in people and respect them. Of course, the lack of respect of humanity is always a problem with a party that looks up to bias, racism and Trump.
It's never a good thing to pigeon hole ideas and forcibly tell someone who to be and love, but the conservatives, who likely still live by the conversion camp method, will now bully Disney with their political power in the sad state of Florida.
It's pathetic, petty and Republican in its shameful and silly vindictiveness as they constantly promote hate.
lincolnman
As in an "entertainer" who "performs" for a living? Yes, I agree with that...
As a Governor who is responsible for his state and it's citizens, he's a complete failure.
His faux-fight with Mickey Mouse could result in his state losing "Billions with a B" in revenue - and impact large and small businesses throughout the state.
He may be a "rock star" to some, but others this week labeled him a "RINO Globalist"...ouch, can't get much of a worse slam in MAGA-world than that...
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3839233-trump-knocks-desantis-as-rino-globalist/
So Trump supporters, is Trump right or wrong? Is DeSantis a hated RINO?
bass4funk
Everything.
As does DeSantis who is beholden to his constituents and many people in his state and including the governor have had it with the left shoving woke politics down everyone’s throat.
They have been. Look at all the recent woke Disney movies.
I disagree vehemently.
Strangerland
I don't know why any Democrats would oppose this. This is an easy win - give DeSantis the rope (ie let him do what he wants with this issue) and let him hang himself (by pissing off his constituents who are suddenly on the hook for billions).
The worst thing that could happen would be for Democrats to oppose him, and win - it would just give him more ammo for his culture war.
plasticmonkey
In short, bass is in favor of government legislatively punishing corporations if they express a different opinion than the government. There’s a word for that, and it begins with an f.
wallace
I thought the GOP was about keeping out of private business and fewer regulations.
lincolnman
Things are really heating up in the Great Inter-Florida Tallahassee - Mar-A-Lago war...
After Trump launched his "RINO Globalist" grenade, DeSantis fired back "I won re-election", essentially calling Trump a "Loser"... I'm sure that will go over real well.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/31/desantis-trump-republican-candidate-00080406
But I'm a little confused....Trump bashed DeSantis saying he “Loved the Vaccines"....
But Trump went on Fox and told everyone the "vaccine is safe, and it works" and urged all his supporters to get it. He's also called the vaccine a "medical miracle".
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-urges-all-americans-to-get-covid-vaccine-its-a-safe-vaccine
So a few questions for our Trump supporting friends;
1) Do you agree with Trump that DeSantis is a RINO Globalist?
2) Do you agree with DeSantis that Trump is a Loser?
3) Why is Trump insulting DeSantis for recommending the vaccine when he's on record doing the same thing?
wallace
Except not all the land is owned by the state. It does not own my condo or the land.
bass4funk
If the majority of Americans wanted it, then no problem, but seeing that they don't and want the woke culture to stop then you will see more pushback
Failure flunked, fools the big mouse.
bass4funk
public business and they are keeping it simple, very simple.
UChosePoorly
Bass - Sorry, I’m getting up there in years, so my slang hasn’t quite kept up, plus I live in a very blue state, so we aren’t hearing as much about ‘woke’ as some other areas are. Just so that we are all singing from the same sheet of music, what does ‘woke’ mean in this context again?
Nemo
This really is nothing more than Ron Ron getting his undies in a bunch because an institution with real pull said his "Don't say gay" bill was a bad idea.
Well, we can't have a bunch of woke folk telling a middle-age white man he is wrong about something!
So off with their admin control.
Now, in a case of the nose biter to spite the face, local govt will have to pick up the tab again for little things like civil governance and sanitation.....
And Rock-Star Ron with the white disco boots doesn't have a plan for that yet, does he,,,,,,
It's almost as though he is making it up as he goes along out of an irrational temper.....
bass4funk
I want an end to the vegan diet as well.
No, hypocrisy just trying to stay on topic.
bass4funk
Just so that we are all singing from the same sheet of music, what does ‘woke’ mean in this context again?
https://youtu.be/po1cS4BsrSM
wallace
The vegan diet is not compulsory.
lincolnman
Once again, multiple posts from our far-right friends but no replies to these questions...
Wonder why they consistently dodge them?
Strangerland
Now the Republicans want to control what you can eat.
The descent into fascism slides a little further each day.
plasticmonkey
So you’re OK with government suppression of corporate free speech as long as “the majority” supports it? That is blatantly unconstitutional.
Bob Fosse
If only you agreed with this idea more often.
Jimizo
That would infringe on the religious rights of certain groups.
Isn’t that what you accuse ‘the left’ of?
bass4funk
If the liberals get their way it will.
bass4funk
No, that’s why Texas has the best beef.
No wonder people are fleeing to Florida, like Ron said, it’s where wokeness goes to die.
RKL
NemoToday 10:35 am JST
This really is nothing more than Ron Ron getting his undies in a bunch because an institution with real pull said his "Don't say gay" bill was a bad idea.
Why was Disney getting twisted undies in the first place about a state law?
wallaceToday 10:24 am JST
Except not all the land is owned by the state. It does not own my condo or the land
Except that in American English the words "govern" and "own" have different meanings. And in Florida to own a condo or land has a different meaning from just imagining one owns a condo or land.
wallace
There are many exceptions to governing "Florida State" and not all residents are equal.
For instance, the Mar-a-Lago club just up the road from my condo was given tax exemption provide the owner and his family, Trump was not living in it.
RKL
wallaceToday 11:33 am JST
There are many exceptions to governing "Florida State" and not all residents are equal.
There are no exceptions.
For instance, the Mar-a-Lago club just up the road from my condo was given tax exemption provide the owner and his family, Trump was not living in it.
I flew over Mar-a-Lago in my parents' helicopter once.
So with a hypothetical of someone given a tax exemption, that would be governed by the State, unless there is a Constitutional aspect to it.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0000-0099/0070/Sections/0070.51.html
lincolnman
You believe what DeSantis says? Haven't you heard - according to one Florida resident, DeSantis is a "fat, whiny, phony" who "bungled" the state's COVID response. In addition, he's a corrupt "RINO Globalist"...like the ones you have said all need to be purged out of the Repub party...
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-ron-desantis-rino-globalist-ron-desanctimonious-2023-2
Given you have called DeSantis a "rockstar" above, you must think this Florida resident is a lying, incompetent, fool...
Bob Fosse
Bass: “Unlike the left, we're not a collective”
but speaks all Floridians, Texans and conservatives. Ooookaaay.
wallace
The Mar-a-Lago club is just five miles from my condo but I'm leaving the state and moving to California.
TokyoLiving
Not a fan of Disney, but the neo-fascism of the GOP embodied in its new pathetic vedettes like DeSantis and the other fascist clique, they are persecuting any society or organization that does not agree with their restrictive, snobbish, retrograde, medieval and sick thoughts..
The neo-fascism of the GOP will destroy the rights of minorities, immigrants, women, the LGBT+ community and they want to build their ultraconservative religious white utopia..
DeSantis and the neo-fascism of the GOP are a danger to the US, society and democracy and the world..
wallace
Ex-President Trump signed 1993 agreement with Palm Beach County that says he cannot live at the club for more than three nonconsecutive weeks in a year.
wallace
No, you did not because it is a restricted air space.
theFu
Places outside the private parks need to be run like any other govt (county or city). No exceptions for corporate interests. There is enough issues with "company towns" already.
Cards fan
I think I'd be inclined to agree with you, except the the government of Florida didn't have a problem with this arrangement until Disney spoke out against the don't say gay bill. I think it's pretty awful the government there is trying to punish a private company for exercising their right to free speech.
Strangerland
It's true, but the Floridians seem to be clear that the culture wars are of primary importance to them. Let them do what they will, and reap the... results.
bass4funk
I don’t but they do when you look at domestic sales.
Says the people that think it’s ok to throw wokeness down a 3 year olds head.
Funny, when the left peddle fascism it’s considered a good thing for the nation. The more I hear talk like that I’m sooo happy that Crist lost and the people realized what they could have had.
No, they just don’t want wokeness taught in the schools and especially outside and having woke libs push via a mouse!
If that’s the case why are people fleeing California and NYC like crazy?
Well, he must be doing something good as his star is rising, he’s more brutal than Trump!
Nemo
Ron-Ron is as qualified to make that call as he is as a middle age white
man to decide on the curriculum of what it means to be black, the history of black Americans, or how children should be taught about the history of black America.
Bob Fosse
Who is forcing 3 year olds to watch Disney?
Where is this happening?
bass4funk
Disney
Globally
Blacklabel
Disney is FOR 3 year olds.
Blacklabel
Excuse me, I think you dropped your race card over there.
would you have preferred Andrew Gillum in charge?