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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.Former U.S. deputy attorney general: If Trump was not president, he would be indicted
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wtfjapan
I did and now I’m giving an opposing point of view.
there is no opposing opinion, the facts are Mueller found plenty of evidence of obstruction but choose not to indict because he cant do that to a sitting POTUS, he left that up to congress. Its clear congress wont do it so itll be up to the AMerican voters next year if they've had enough of this lies , deceit and obstruction or they want more of the same
wtfjapan
"take it with a grain of salt".
there is no grain of salt when you obstruct justice, its breaking US law. Trumptards have no problem with the POTUS breaking US law as long as he fits their agenda.
wtfjapan
when she opposed Trump on the travel restriction order from Muslim-majority countries with a high risk of infiltration by terrorists.
oh you mean like Saudi Arabia!? oh forgot theyre not on a ban list, but they have oil so AMerican lives dont matter in this instance.
What does Mueller have to say about this? why would Mueller care shes not being investigated for obstruction, and why would Trumptards care!? they didnt care what Mueller said , as he was just a corrupt FBI agent until he found no collusion on Trump. Seriously Trumptards flip flop around more than a fish out of water
albaleo
True, but the report did say the investigation did not establish that the Trump campaign 'coordinated' with the Russian government in election interference. It specifically avoided the term "collusion" as it has no legal meaning. It considered "coordination" as more relevant within the framework of conspiracy law.
Andrew Crisp
When you ask a Obama appointment what there opinion on a Trump issue is, the response of course is anti Trump - like most things that come from the Democrat side, "take it with a grain of salt".
Anonymous
Sally Yates?
You mean the same Sally Yates who served under Eric “Obama’s wingman” Holder and Loretta “Bill Clinton and I discussed grandchildren while meeting by coincidence at an airport in Phoenix - I swear!” Lynch?
YuriOtani
Nothing like being above the law. Trump runs the US Justice Department and will never be prosecuted as long as he is President. The only hope is impeachment but his Republicans will never see that justice is done. I am surprised they did not pass an enabling act when they controlled Congress. Now the US Senate is packing the courts with Trump cronies. I think the US Republic is coming to its conclusion.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Lolz The report lays out exactly how. Isn't it amazing how its difficult to conduct an investigation when the president obstructs. Its almost like obstruction is a crime or something.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Lolz Where did Mueller say no collusion? Hint: He didn't.
Haaa Nemui
Ok ok... I should say... definitely not exoneration. Happy now?
Blacklabel
obstruction of justice. Of an investigation that was given 2 years to complete, whose leader was not fired, that was given an unlimited budget, and no executive privilege claimed, yet found nothing.
so how exactly was it obstructed?
Blacklabel
Where does the Mueller report say “definitely obstruction”? And why aren’t you angry at him instead of Trump then?
He decided not to indict Trump when there was definitely proof? Your prosecutor savior failed you.
Eppee
I know you're trolling, but man that one was good ! Democratically elected leader of the world ! You made my day.
The truth is that the US is becoming more irrelevant day by day.
Haaa Nemui
But definitely obstruction.
Haaa Nemui
I'm glad you agree with him. Maybe you'll change your ways.
Blacklabel
You guys sure love your word play.
the words from Mueller are clear. No collusion and no indictments.
bass4funk
Not ever. You guys keep firing and keep missing.
At the same time but I couldn’t prove that there was any intent on trumps part just saw you called me and to ask the Russians to help them with this campaign, no proof to that in no way to prove that there was any intent, so there was no way to charge him therefore he is either guilty or not and since he’s not in prison one can assume with all certainty he is not guilty.
Which means absolutely nothing to the deep state establishment, but nice try. Comey, vote Democrat, his entire family are Hillary supporters, Yeah, ok....lol
Thank you you put my point for me, political titles don’t matter. Than you for making that point for me, Lincoln.
plasticmonkey
None of this is grounded in evidence.
plasticmonkey
It's true that one should not control what other people can or cannot say. You just might have problems being taken seriously in adult conversation if you can't back up your assertions with evidence or logical reasoning.
bass4funk
Not at all. It’s on point. What do the Democrats have? Put the BS aside? They have nothing, we all know this, Democrats know this, this is only about trying to wound Trump as much as they can for 2020 nothing more. They know Mueller was their ace in the hole and that went completely sour on them. Now they want to make another mocked fishing expedition with absolutely nothing and let’s not forget, they completely forgot about their constituents. In their hatred for Trump and their deep obsession with tying to get him kicked out of office is ruining their chances at getting the WH.
Then the president is not a criminal either.
Trump is as well. No orange jumpsuits.
And we call out the liberals that give zero evidence or empty platitudes of something that will never happen.
Haaa Nemui
Say what you want if it defends him. Saying "Hillary did this that and the next thing" doesn't.
You didn't defend him or give an opposing point of view about what he did. You just complained about Hillary.
plasticmonkey
False. The whole thing started with the George Papadopoulos and Wikileaks issue in July, 2016, five months before the FBI knew anything about the Steele dossier. This fact is even attested in lickspittle Devin Nunes' "memo", and yet Trumpsters & Friends continue to spout falsehoods about the origin of the Mueller investigation. Is there any reason to believe that the Trumpiverse has any shred of credibility or integrity?
Keep digging your own hole. Facts are facts, including the one that President Donald J. Trump on multiple occasions obstructed an ongoing investigation, and the one that obstruction of justice does not necessitate the existence of an underlying crime (as lickspittle AG Barr falsely asserts).
Go ahead and present facts. Nobody's stopping you. But that's not what you've been doing. Instead, it's been a steady stream of falsehoods, straw men, red herrings, and false equivalences.
Blacklabel
Don’t need to write anything. Mueller didn’t indict so anything that was written is irrelevant and should not have even been written.
You indict and prove or you are quiet. No middle ground to “almost” prosecute someone for “almost” doing something.
If you knew you couldn’t indict why did you all tell us Trump would be impeached and jailed. You just wasted our time if you know claim you “knew” all this and knew he couldn’t be indicted.
bass4funk
Oh, please, you do not control what people can or cannot say. Why liberals always think they can’t make people say or think the way THEY want them to think.
I did and now I’m giving an opposing point of view.
bass4funk
He’s not indicted, he’s not in prison, so either he’s a criminal or he’s not, the report doesn’t state that. The Dems have nothing, absolutely nothing.
And yet there wasn’t enough evidence to charge him, so either he’s guilty or he’s not. Apparently, not.
Comey claims he’s a Republican, but he wants and encourages people to vote Democrat, that says a lot about his political leanings, don’t come to me with that. Lol
Goodlucktoyou
Why everybody picks on trump? He was fairly elected. If that is how he operates, then that is how Americans operate. Leave the guy alone. Attacking and insulting him is an attack on democracy and every single American voter. Posters never criticize (corruption) Abe, schools, vet universities etc. leave trump alone. Clinton lost. Lost. Accept it. I bet you love watching The Godfather movie or Arnold blasting away people. Trump is just that. No more, no less. Respect him. He is the democratically elected leader of the world.
Haaa Nemui
No not at all. Defend him if you can. What Hillary did or does or should do or should get isn't a defense of Trump.
Yes it does. He is the subject. If you can't defend him, that's not his opposition's fault.
bass4funk
The problem is, they keep shooting and they keep missing and that only makes him stronger because now and more than ever people can see, his supporters as well as some people that may not like him that there is a conscious effort to do everything in the Democrats power to get rid of this President and it’s just not working out the way the Dems want it to. Every single dirty tactic has failed and even the giant mega witch hunt proved to be a dud.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Nowhere in the report did Mueller write that.
What I think is irrelevant. reading the Mueller report makes it clear he did find evidence of obstruction.
lolz A Republican investigating a Republican isn't partisan. But, I get what you're saying, the president is above the law. Long live King Donny! ;)
Blacklabel
Love how all liberals using this “can’t indict a sitting president” line. After the report found not enough evidence to indict anyway.
Do you really think a “guideline” would stop Mueller from indicting if he found evidence?
then why bother even investigate someone you know you can’t indict? Partisan politics.
bass4funk
No, it did not and if you disagree with the President that’s your prerogative, but if you don’t like an order, then leave, put in your resignation immediately if you feel like you need to disobey, doesn’t matter who the President is
From whom? Lol
Laguna
Yates was fired as she refused to do Trump's bidding when it ran against the law. That is all. Barr had better be careful: a reckoning is coming.
Haaa Nemui
Perhaps it's because of this...
the Republican president was shielded by department guidelines that a sitting president should not be indicted.
Blacklabel
After Comey, Yates, McCabe and others are handled first. Do you really think we are going to just forget about what “your team” did?
Blacklabel
Nice word twisting. Yates said she prosecuted people with far, far less evidence than Mueller found.
Yet Mueller didn’t prosecute. So Yates either has bad judgment or is used to abusing power to prosecute people with little evidence.
Serrano
He said its congress' job to pursue the obstruction charges
He also didn't recomend any indictments on the obstruction charges. You really should try to get over Hillary's loss at this point.
When's Hillary's indictment coming?
It can't come soon enough. You actually don't think she should be indicted, do you?
plasticmonkey
She was fired because she instructed the Justice Department not to defend Trump's executive order, which she properly concluded was neither constitutional nor defensible in court. Yates' conclusion was later upheld. Federal courts blocked the order, and the two Stephens (Goebbels-Miller and Bannon) had to go back to the drawing board to come up with a ban that was less explicitly discriminatory.
Yates was following the law. Trump was not.
Yates is once again pointing out Trump's lawlessness, and she is once again correct.
375sensei
“And Sally Yates clearly abused her position if she prosecuted people for obstruction on “far, far less evidence”. Abuse of power.”
What do you base this argument upon? Do you have any evidence to support this theory?
The point Sally Yates was trying to make was that Trump committed acts of obstruction of justice so frequently and on a scale so large that they paled in comparison to the cases she prosecuted. It does not imply that those cases did not meet the required bar for prosecution which you erroneously claim.
Chip Star
This is not a logical inference from the evidence against Donny. The logical inference is that he needs to be prosecuted.
Its hilarious that Trumpophiles think enforcing the rule of law is abuse of power. You all crack me up.
Chip Star
It's never long before a Trumpophile takes a deep dive into conspiracy theories.
When's Hillary's indictment coming?
Blacklabel
And Sally Yates clearly abused her position if she prosecuted people for obstruction on “far, far less evidence”. Abuse of power.
who were these people, were they found guilty and what happened to them after that?
Blacklabel
Fired by Trump. Unmasked people for partisan politics. Speaking of indictments, there will be one with her name on it.
Chip Star
She is a lawyer so may have a bit more knowledge than you.
He said its congress' job to pursue the obstruction charges. Didntbyou read his report? Oh, that's correct, rightists don't read, they listen to Fox "News" and Alex Jones.
Serrano
Who cares what Sally Yates says, she was quickly fired for insubordination when she opposed Trump on the travel restriction order from Muslim-majority countries with a high risk of infiltration by terrorists.
What does Mueller have to say about this?
theFu
Yep. The only option I can see is for the Dems to get a 50 yr old presidential candidate who is centrist.
Here's hoping they get someone on the ballot like that. I fear it is impossible with the current Democratic party being so far left, so we'll be stuck with 4 more yrs.
CrazyJoe
Sally Yates, run for office, any office. If I can vote for you I will. We need more elected officials who stand up for the rule of law and have the courage of their convictions.
Strangerland
Oh, the Trumpets aren't going to like this one. No no no, they really won't like it. It points out the fact that the president has done criminal actions, and is only protected by the fact he is president. They'll fall back on their position that legality equals morality, and therefore he's not morally culpable of anything wrong, since he's not being legally prosecuted for it.
But this clearly shows that he is morally corrupt, that he is a criminal. This is beyond all reasonable doubt. And it shows that the American system is broken, not only does it protect a criminal, but it puts him in charge of the nation and gives him free reign to do whatever he wants, since he cannot be prosecuted.
Complete and absolute power. Any dictator smiles.
Chip Star
Anyone with an elementary understanding of obstruction of justice knows Trump would be under indictment for obstruction if he weren't president.