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France bars unvaccinated from restaurants, sports venues

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Absolute disgrace! Most people in Europe probably have natural immunity now! Where are the tests to confirm that???

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 The new pass only works for people who are fully vaccinated

In France, fully vaccinated means 3 shots.

2 shots or less is unvaccinated.

When they say "hospitals are full of unvaccinated"

They mean full of people who have taken 2 vaccines.

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Excellent news. Well done France. Make the anti-vaxers suffer for their stupidity and selfishness.

0 ( +17 / -17 )

Completely anti science, considering natural immunity is better than the vaccine and most will have had Covid by now.

-8 ( +10 / -18 )

Good for France.

Lock this small, rabid minority of anti-vaxxers out. It would be completely unfair fot those who have done the right thing all along to have to share these places with anti-vaxxers.

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Excellent news. Well done France. Make the anti-vaxers suffer for their stupidity and selfishness.

Bingo!

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

obesity....when is the last time that they infected another person?

The argument is not about transmission, it's about taking up a hospital bed.

If statistics prove that obese people take up more hospital space shouldn't society punish them for their poor choices?

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GOOD for France and the rest of Europe, NO one want's a repeat of 2020 death numbers of 435,000 a day.

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

Excellent news. Well done France. Make the anti-vaxers suffer for their stupidity and selfishness.

Bingo!

Well said - I'm glad the anti-vaxers here are finally realizing their own level of stupidity and selfishness....

But being denied entry to a restaurant or ballgame is hardly suffering compared to what they really have to fear...as one more medical study confirms...

"The unvaccinated are between 3 and 13 times more likely to die compared to those vaccinated".....

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

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Funny how selfish and stupid alot of the comments from "pro-vaxxers" sound...

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So vaccination from an obsolete vaccine is better than natural immunity???

The flu vaccine is updated for new variants twice a year! The current covid vaccines are still running on the alpha variant but yeh that's "non scientific"....not worth the needle they are injected with against omicron. Which most people in Europe have already had no doubt

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"The unvaccinated are between 3 and 13 times more likely to die compared to those vaccinated".....

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

Read the URL

They are equating "not fully vaccinated" with "unvaccinated"

People with 2 shots are being counted as "unvaccinated" because they haven't taken the all important booster.

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

They are equating "not fully vaccinated" with "unvaccinated"

People with 2 shots are being counted as "unvaccinated" because they haven't taken the all important booster.

And that distinction means exactly what to you?

You and the rest of the anti-vaxers think the vaccine is poison - a bio-weapon...

Yet this study and many others show those with no vaccination are between 3 and 20 times more likely to die...

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm

Hope you have your will complete...

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No Restaurants means they settle for home delivered (no contact), and no sports means they watch it on TV at home or on their phones. They still participate in life but they are restricted from getting and spreading covid to others in community because they do it all more easily. This is as much about keeping them as safe as possible while they fail to take measures for their own safety. Also it is about safety for the community.

Tennis star Djokovic has had Covid at least twice and maybe more as he keeps this info to himself. His "natural immunity" has not stopped him from repeat cases of covid but his ignorance has stopped him from vaccinating which is needed for his job and for the added protection of those around him and himself. He will be banned from the French Open as published 8 days ago, unless he vaccinates or rules in place change.

Anti-Vaxxers say their body their choice. The Vaccinated say the same thing and say the anti vaxxed have no right to be free to infect others because of their choice not to vaccinate. The rights of the Majority must always come first when it concerns safety of life. Those selfish enough or uneducated enough to refuse life preserving vaccines for themselves and their community safety should have no expectation of equal access of movement in a pandemic.

Perhaps once the experts advise it has moved from pandemic to endemic (and that may be close) the situation will change. Until then you reap what you sow and if your sowing anti vaccine behavior then expect those in the vast majority doing the right thing to have issue with that.

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France has ditched the Liberté! and Fraternité! Now it's just Egalité!

The French are no longer free to assemble with anyone they want, or go about their business unhindered. This is dangerous territory.

Macron, the establishment and the media have turned Frenchie against Frenchie with their intentionally inflammatory and divisive rhetoric, fracturing the fraternité the French were famous for.

But thankfully they still have egalité - jabbed or not, they're equal as chattel under repressive mandates that the government can and does lay down at whim, essentially putting in place the beginnings of a Chinese-style local credit system.

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have no right to be free to infect others

On what grounds do you have the right to walk around and infect others?

Or are you 100% non-infectious to other human beings?

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

People with 2 shots are being counted as "unvaccinated" because they haven't taken the all important booster.

Because it now takes the booster to be fully vaccinated.

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Because it now takes the booster to be fully vaccinated.

You are correct, even though that just a few months ago it was deemed a conspiracy theory to suggest that this would happen.

The statistics would be more accurate if they separated the data properly:

Fully vaccinated - 3 doses

Partially vaccinated - 2 doses or 1 dose

Vaccine Free - 0 doses

As it stands, partially vaccinated and vaccine free are being lumped into one group, which makes the data useless.

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ArtistAtLargeToday  11:28 am JST

People with 2 shots are being counted as "unvaccinated" because they haven't taken the all important booster.

Because it now takes the booster to be fully vaccinated.

So if someone has had the first two jabs and the first booster but declines the second booster, that make them an anti-vaxxer? Does the same go for someone who had the first two jabs but turned down the booster? Or how about the people who were coerced into taking them in order to make a living, but regret it. Does that make them anti-vaxxers?

When you keep shifting the goalposts, you're going to create a lot of opponents as the definitions morph into the ridiculous.

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

They won’t get vaccinated and most of them have to be forced to put on a mask. What’s with these people?!

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Weird coming from an anti-vaxxer.

I’m pro-vaccine, just not for me.

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

They won’t get vaccinated and most of them have to be forced to put on a mask. What’s with these people?!

It’s a pathology. Ask them their views on a variety of topics and you’ll generally get predictable answers.

I still think that the alternative media/conspiracy theory mindset is best explained by a desire to appear more intelligent and perceptive than you actually are.

This is quite clever on the part of some scammers. Playing to people’s vanity is a good strategy.

One thing you do notice with people suffering from this pathology is a lack of ability to self-deprecate. They are very thin-skinned. .

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

It also more easily infects those who have been vaccinated or had previously been infected by prior versions of the virus.

Fact check anyone?

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Omicron is less likely to cause severe illness than the previous delta variant, according to studies. Omicron spreads even more easily than other coronavirus strains, and has already become dominant in many countries. It also more easily infects those who have been vaccinated or had previously been infected by prior versions of the virus.

JT kindly fact check line in bold

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This is so far against the science that it’s unbelievable. Vaccine passports do not work and have been stopped or never started in most countries. If it’s all about hospital beds being taken then keep the obese and over 70’s indoors, vaccinated or not they are still at the greatest risk of hospitalisation

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

It also more easily infects those who have been vaccinated or had previously been infected by prior versions of the virus.

2x vaccinated currently have slightly more omicron infections per 100000 than unvaccinated, 3x vaccinated have clearly fewer omicron infections per 100000 than unvaccinated.

Infection risk of previously infected folks lies between those of 2x and 3x vaccinated, but clearly fewer than unvaccinated.

The difference between all the above immune groups is very much smaller than with previous strains. Omicron is the great equalizer

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

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