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French writer files formal assault charge against Strauss-Kahn

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Hopefully this will make the French pipe down when it comes to complaints about the U.S. legal system. The U.S. has real problems I would love for the French to point out, but the legal system is not that bad. I can't think of any point where DSK really got treated that unfairly, except that his name probably should not be in the news if and until he is found guilty.

In a further twist to the saga, his New York accuser filed a libel suit Tuesday against the New York Post after it called her a prostitute.

I am sure the DSK damage control team will happily pay whatever the NYP is sued for. In fact, that was probably part of the deal for printing that pap!

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"I am sure the DSK damage control team will happily pay whatever the NYP is sued for. In fact, that was probably part of the deal for printing that pap!"

Heh, it would seem there is no lengths you won't go to to further smear the man.

Give it up. Really.

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Me? Smear? I never said anything like that until someone went to great lengths to smear the maid! Who might that be? No. NO. Just could not be the DSK damage control team! NO! So you got any sort of plausible guess where the prostitution allegation came from?

Oh, you probably want evidence or its all moot right? Sure did not stop you when you were accussing Banon of being a gold-digger who only spoke when the New York Case broke. You got evidence for that? Or can we safely call that smear?

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"Me? Smear? I never said anything like that"

Your above comments speak for themselves.

The majority of those of you refusing DSK's right ot innocence unitl proving guilty are working from the same handicap;

His nationanlity first (obviously), jealousy of his wealth second, and last him being a member of the hated Club Gauche Caviar.

Get over yourselves!

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Your above comments speak for themselves.

Nothing speaks quite like the need to parse a man's sentence to change the meaning.

His nationanlity first (obviously), jealousy of his wealth second, and last him being a member of the hated Club Gauche Caviar.

I have not said anything to give the impression my sentiments would be any different than if he were a dirt poor Irishman. The simple explanation for that is is because my sentiments would no different if he were a dirt poor Irishman. To be sure I have no love for the rich, but I am basically cool with the French and often find myself defending them. But neither my good will toward the French nor my disdain for people who suck up public moneys for luxury has anything to do with this.

The only surprise is that you did not play the anti-semite card as I earlier mentioned Roman Polanski.

The majority of those of you refusing DSK's right ot innocence unitl proving guilty

Tell you what. Could you name a few names for us?

And could you present a plausible scenario where DSK's tackle winds up in a strange maid's mouth that is not sexual battery. Thanks.

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You suggested DSK's "damage control" team (your invention) would be paying the NYP's slander damages as part of a secret pre-arranged agreement (exposed by yourself) of further making the maid's story seem to be doubtful.

I'm sorry, but you've been engaging in this behaviour for a while and it's rather boring. Best of luck to ya.

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I'm sorry, but you've been engaging in this behaviour for a while

As I clearly stated before, that sort of statement from me came after the character assasination of the maid. The DSK side decided to get nasty, so so did I.

If you have any leads on who else would have a vested interested in floating the lie that she was a prostitute (as if it matters) I would love to hear who.

And I really would like to hear that reasonable explanation of how DSK's tool wound up cleaning the maid's tonsils. Was it a conspiracy?

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@Madverts

The majority of those of you refusing DSK's right ot innocence unitl proving guilty are working from the same handicap;

His nationality first (obviously), jealousy of his wealth second, and last him being a member of the hated Club Gauche Caviar.

Get over yourselves!

Ouch ! You sure are quick to judge us aren't you.

Please watch what you say. Your petty and childish attack like this is not cute. Jeeez !

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"Please watch what you say. Your petty and childish attack like this is not cute. Jeeez !"

The knee-jerk was expected. I base that opinion on the comments we've had about DSK which are his nationality, wealth and political affiliation.

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"And I really would like to hear that reasonable explanation of how DSK's tool wound up cleaning the maid's tonsils. Was it a conspiracy?"

There are so many different reasons oral sex could have occured that your naivety beggars belief.

And besides, the thread is about Bannon's accusations, not the hotel room fiasco.

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@Madverts

The knee-jerk was expected. I base that opinion on the comments we've had about DSK which are his nationality, wealth and political affiliation

Tell us, if the comments were not about DSK's nationality, wealth and political affiliation, what do you expect us or the general public to comment on considering this is the information we know and which that has been highlighted by the news media. Do you happen to have more information on DSK what are better than what we have been fed by the news media?

Spill it out, if you have so that we can have a fair picture and discussion on the topic. Otherwise, this knee-jerk stunt from you is not appreciated.

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Anyone who can't see through DSK and his good ol' boy network is pretty clueless. If you met some extremely wealthy people and their business associates you'd understand.

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his fingers in my mouth.......................................

Next time bite HARD

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Baron files a complaint over an 'alleged' rape attempt in 2003, with almost a decade of serious contemplation. If she was really tramatized, why does she waited this long? Maybe a orchestrated reputational damage campaign against DSK , is there pre-French elections? A conspiracy theorists moves along. I wonder if false accusations are as much of a national past time for French women as they are for American women.

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I wonder if false accusations are as much of a national past time for French women as they are for American women.

This is really beyond the pale.

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If she was really tramatized, why does she waited this long?

You have answered your own question my young Grasshopper.

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There are so many different reasons oral sex could have occured that your naivety beggars belief.

I did not ask you for a random scenario. I asked you for a reasonable explanation. Third time now. You seem to be dodging this as hard as DSK.

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chewitupJul. 06, 2011 - 10:16PM JST. Tell you what. Could you name a few names for us? And could you present a plausible scenario where DSK's tackle winds up in a strange maid's mouth that is not sexual battery.

How do you know he was not set up? Are you saying DSK is guilty beyond reasonable doubt in NY case for sexual battery? Ha ha ha. She will never win this case and I doubt they will go to trial. Good luck old grasshopper.

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How do you know he was not set up?

By who? Please, you leave too many blanks empty.

Are you saying DSK is guilty beyond reasonable doubt in NY case for sexual battery?

As the court will see it, probably not. As I see it, with the evidence and lack thereof that I have, yes. But like I keep saying, everyone keeps looking for a doubt, but no one has given me a reasonable one yet. You and madverts refusing to present a plausible explanation with detail is a case in point.

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chewitupJul. 07, 2011 - 07:41AM JST. By who? Please, you leave too many blanks empty.

DSK could just as easily been set up by rivals inside the IMF, as well as by rivals within the French political establishment. Why would a maid enter DSK's presidential suite unaccompanied? Maids could be fired for entering an occupied room alone. Luxury hotel maids know the protocol: knock, wait, announce oneself, knock again, open the door slightly. Also, why would he call the hotel from the airport to recover a forgotten cell phone if he was guilty?

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chewitupJul. 07, 2011 - 07:41AM JST As the court will see it, probably not. As I see it, with the evidence and lack thereof that I have, yes. But like I keep saying, everyone keeps looking for a doubt, but no one has given me a reasonable one yet. You and madverts refusing to present a plausible explanation with detail is a case in point.

Thank you for admitting that you're determined to find DSK guilty, regardless of, by your own admission, the evidence not meeting the legal standards for guilty.

Here's reasonable doubt for you Chewitup, the maid was a serial liar with proof that she has lied for personal gain in the past and there's a record of her discussing DSK's financial situation as a reason FOR pursuing the charge (for most people this would be in the AGAINST column). Reasonable doubt as to her motives - ESTABLISHED.

In the Banon case even Banon admits that she has no chance of winning, but decided to pursue the case. Why would anyone pursue a case that they have publically admitted they can't win? One reason that leaps to mind is that she's an author who wrote a book on the failings of politically powerful men and this would give her and her book plenty of publicity, for free (well, actually at the taxpayer's expense). Reasonable doubt as to her motives - ESTABLISHED.

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Thank you for admitting that you're determined to find DSK guilty, regardless of, by your own admission, the evidence not meeting the legal standards for guilty.

Current legal standards are not necessarily my standards. I am not desperate to find him guilty. I looked at the evidence, and this is what I see.

proof that she has lied for personal gain in the past

That super over-generalized statement is hardly useful. Everybody has lied for personal gain. Maybe not on that level, but geesh. And that does not make a reasonable doubt about rape anyway. Basically what you are saying is that it is not legally rape no matter how you violate someone who lied on their asylum application.

Why would anyone pursue a case that they have publically admitted they can't win?

This has been explained before. She wants to hit at her attacker as she can, assuming she is telling the truth. You have already made up a reason in the case she is lying, but has been pointed out to you before, the book was published years ago.

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DSK could just as easily been set up by rivals inside the IMF, as well as by rivals within the French political establishment.

That hardly explains how he wound up in her pie hole does it? He did not fall in a trap door there!

This dude specifically stated shortly before the even that he worried about being set-up for a false rape allegation. And you honestly think its reasonable to suggest that a strange maid offered some services and he said "Why not?"?

Why would a maid enter DSK's presidential suite unaccompanied?

Because the rules state they must clean alone? Because she was sent there alone by a supervisor? Because its standard proceedure? One would think that if this hotel had a rule stating otherwise, we would have heard about it by now.

Maids could be fired for entering an occupied room alone.

Where do you get this idea?

Luxury hotel maids know the protocol: knock, wait, announce oneself, knock again, open the door slightly.

This was not a tiny room. It was a suite with rooms and rooms and even a banquet hall! Someone could have hidden an elephant in there and you would know from the door!

Also, why would he call the hotel from the airport to recover a forgotten cell phone if he was guilty?

Because the head of the IMF cannot just "lose" his phone! Can you imagine what sensitive information could be on it? The real question is, how does the head of IMF forget such an important item? It suggests he was in a hurry to get out of Dodge.

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"Thank you for admitting that you're determined to find DSK guilty, regardless of, by your own admission, the evidence not meeting the legal standards for guilty."

Frungy, that poster willadmit to nothing, but this individual's smear tactics are plain to see for all above. If the facts don't fit, well then just make 'em up!

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" You and madverts refusing to present a plausible explanation with detail is a case in point."

Your own lack of imagination doesn't involve anyone else, at any point in the discussion. Your strawman's have been shownn for what they are. Sorry 'bout that.

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Your own lack of imagination doesn't involve anyone else

Your inability to make a case seems to really be getting to you. I have a lot of imagination and I can imagine a lot. But I am asking you what you think is plausible and reasonable because my imagination won't answer the question. Or gee, if you think it will, let me know! I have no qualms about putting words in your mouth if its with your approval.

If you can't give us a reasonable explanation of how DSK found himself in the mouth of a strange maid, why not just man up instead of continuing to attack me? Your butt is not on the line like DSK so no need to adopt his tactics. Its not my fault you cannot find a reasonable explanation what happened. Its just part of the discussion.

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chewitupJul. 07, 2011 - 07:41AM JST. As I see it, with the evidence and lack thereof that I have, yes. But like I keep saying, everyone keeps looking for a doubt, but no one has given me a reasonable one yet.

You have the evidence? Yes? What evidence are you talking about? Were you there first hand to investigate this case or just sitting in front of the computer and play amateur detective? If you have something that NY investigators, DA, and their attorneys do not know. Let us know what you have of your direct evidence is.

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What evidence are you talking about?

Step back. Take a breath. Calm down.

The only evidence I have is that which has been printed on the internet. It is enough for me. If its not enough for you, you are entitled to your opinion.

That said, I would gladly welcome more evidence than what I have, namely, a detailed explanation from DSK of what happened. The lack of that evidence is also condemning him in my mind. Just declaring it was consensual is so not cutting it.

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