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Trump not holding a news conference at the end says what a failure his appearance was. He accomplished zilch because he is ignorant on the topics and refuses to listen to anyone. What a loser and a loner.

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Even Russia is with the G-19

Is Melania really that much taller than Putin

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Putin is a very short man and Melania is tall about almost 180 cm with heels.

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From the photos you would think the Trump women dominated this G19+1 meeting. -Certainly by height alone.

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To get 20 of your friends to agree to have dinner tonight is pretty hard.

True, but a poor example.

Better would be getting 20 of your friends to agree to flee a town surrounded by a forest fire - that should be a cinch. It's that one who argues against leaving who's the lunatic.

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LagunaToday  09:00 am JST

To get 20 of your friends to agree to have dinner tonight is pretty hard.

True, but a poor example.

Better would be getting 20 of your friends to agree to flee a town surrounded by a forest fire - that should be a cinch. It's that one who argues against leaving who's the lunatic.

Well said!

Cohn is trying to give scientific consensus based on mountains of evidence the same weight as a personal opinion because this deception is the only possible way to defend Trump's indefensible climate policy.

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Much as I loathe the tories; I was most impressed with May cutting Trump down to size.

The world will continue to fight climate change and ignorance of climate change; with or without Trump's isolationist America.

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Making America great again one alienated ally at a time, and one opportunity to cede stature to Russia and China at a time. MAGMA!

How ridiculous.

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What a complete idiot the POTUS is. He's a fool, and the world knows. It isn't a liberal thing, it's a human thing, and no Trump supporter can spin a 19-1 vote as a positive. Trump fooled you fools, and there isn't anything to spin, Trump has failed on the world stage, and he's making a mockery of the United States of America.

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Another totally biased fake media hit piece. And what is this lovey-dovey hippie protest picture? In reality, Antifa has been vandalizing Hamburg. I have friends who live there and they testify it is not pretty having these violent morons run around.

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Toast Heretic:

"The world will continue to fight climate change"

The world is doing no such thing. Regardless if you believe the trumpet-up "global warming" slogans or if you doubt them, fact is that available fossil fuels are consumed at an increasing rate, in particular as living standards in 3rd world countries improve. And handing tax-payer money collected in the 1st world over to 3rd world dictators does NOTHING to change that.

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Another totally biased fake media hit piece. And what is this lovey-dovey hippie protest picture? In reality, Antifa has been vandalizing Hamburg. I have friends who live there and they testify it is not pretty having these violent morons run around.

Everybody has "friends".

The protests are in direct proportion and response to the arrival of several fascists in town; Trump, Putin and Erdogan. The police were brutal towards the protesters.

https://vimeo.com/224524911

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Another totally biased fake media hit piece.

Another totally biased poster who doesn't know what fake news means.

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Another totally biased poster who doesn't know what fake news means.

But his chums! In Hamburg!

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left wing media can be amusing. I'll try to keep it simple. you can't be "shut out" from a scam. being a victim of the global warming financial scam is not actually a goal. so the tools who are going along with this, scam are either imbeciles or they are in on the scam, considering how much power and money can result from the scam, it's likely they are in on it.

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Just like after Dubya, it'll take Trump's successor years to repair the damage he's doing to US's reputation and role as a leader. If possible to repair at all.

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eing a victim of the global warming financial scam is not actually a goal.

The scientifically established term is global climate change. If you want to argue with the scientists, a.k.a, experts; that''s your donkey to ride.

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The scientifically established term is global climate change. If you want to argue with the scientists, a.k.a, experts; that''s your donkey to ride.

And there are scientists that also dispute the entire global warming jihad and they are also experts. So it just depends on what you believe, how deeply and what your priorities are concerning the environment.

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97% the world versus the 3% the USA could buy off

Do us a favour...

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And there are scientists that also dispute the entire global warming jihad and they are also experts

Love the use of "jihadi" in relation to 97% of the learned scientists in the field. Try leaving the juvenile scare tactics at the door.

So it just depends on what you believe,

Disbielive the science all you want, but you'll simply be incorrect.

how deeply and what your priorities are concerning the environment.

The environment that sustains life on this planet.

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Trump continues to sideline the US on the world stage, which is going to start putting limits on our soft power. And Trump fans cheer for that.

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and Trump fans cheer for that.

Because they don't see any causal link between the U.S. being prosperous and safe with the U.S. being engaged.

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You can't discriminate to someone who doesn't agree with you or who has difference opinion about Global warming theory. The Climate Changes scientists can not explain about why Globe was warming before Industrial Revolution.

CO2 wasn’t main culprit of global warming.

Deforestation is main culprit of rapid Global warming.

We need to stop deforestation in Borneo and Amazon and replant CO2 absorbing tree to fight against Global warming if you think CO2 was main culprit of Global warming. We need to rehabilitation of forests which are cleansing for Palm Oil plantation in Borneo and Soy bean farming in Amazon.

No leaders have talking about deforestation and ignore deforestation in their country because they are somehow indirect or direct business interest in Companies which are responsible for deforestation in their country. We must stop deforestation Asia, Latin America, Africa and everywhere in the world to save earth from cooking. We Japanese peoples should carry own Plastic Chopstick to Restaurant and Ramen-ya to save earth from boiling.

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The main and largest banner in the post photo is for "Solidarity Without Borders" and not Antifa which in itself is not just German but in several countries. 

That banner and the ideology behind the black-shirts of the so-called 'Antifa' is emblematic of what the US and all decent and far sighted nations and people must oppose. Trump can be annoying at times but his speech in Poland is a very good summation of the state of the world. The West seems hell bent on throwing out all of the progress made on human rights, representative democracy, and the raising of hundreds of millions out of poverty through capitalism so they can live under the boot of the rest of the world which is undemocratic , and relatively poor and miserable. We are bound and determined to undermine ourselves with no plan going forward. The mindless group think that went on in Hamburg was sad to see.

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Simple strategy -- just wait until Trump is gone.

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Simple strategy -- just wait until Trump is gone.

Or we can wait until those 97% of scientists can come up with a climate model that can accurately predict temperature changes. As it is they have on average over predicted temperature increases by more than 2.5 times actual satellite observations. They cannot even use the current models for past temperature changes. If they cannot accurately predict temperature changes over decades how can they be relied upon to predict what temperatures will be over centuries?

I understand that that climate change is real. It has never been otherwise. But science deals in certitudes not in maybes. If the science is not far enough along so that it cannot be accurately tested, skepticism remains in order.

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Wolfpack: Or we can wait until those 97%

This is why the anti-vaxxer movement survives. Some people just up and decide that for one issue 90%+ of scientists are just wrong because they read an article online somewhere.

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The Solidarity Without Borders is a different group than Antifa groups. 

Not really. They are simply the militant, marxist arm of the movement. A great number of the groups that support anti-capitalism movements such as this are socialist, marxist, and/or communist. It is what it is - don't blame me for pointing it out. No one on the political Left is making any serious attempts to eradicate the violent Antifa from associating with their causes. And as seen on many college campuses in the US, the Left is very tolerant of their violence.

This is why the anti-vaxxer movement survives. Some people just up and decide that for one issue 90%+ of scientists are just wrong because they read an article online somewhere.

I do not agree with the anti-vaccination people - who are most prominently represented by the Hollywood Left. Wether thimerisol causes autism in some rare cases I do not know but vaccinations have saved literally innumerable numbers of lives. But what is important in regards to the G-20 and their stand on global warming is that scientists must be able back up why they believe CO2 from man made sources; their highly inaccurate climate model are not yet up to the task. Therefore there is no scientific test to prove the hypothesis. I understand that climate change hysteria gives the political Left a ready made excuse for micro-managing the lives of everyone on the planet but they should at least provide demonstrable proof. The climate models have not yet backed up the claims. I am waiting for the models to back up the theory.

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Trump is right in this case.  Many agricultural products are dried by sunshine.  In tropical zones, people do not use coal to  dry their farm  products.  Coffee, tea,, seaweed, dried shrimp, cocoa, for example.  Then, many states in USA use solar energy for household energy.

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