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Georgia Republicans spar over Trump's false election claims

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Raffensperger is an honest man. That has been proven.

But Trump and his followers believe that birds aren't real, and other conspiracy theories.

In Georgia, our choices for most offices are terrible. At this point, I just want to vote for honest people who aren't tied to Trump.

There was another article here that claimed a GA politician/football player didn't show up to a debate last month on May 24th. The comments were closed. Alas, today is May 2nd, so something smells bad about that story.

The debates are mainly for news organizations, so they can highlight differences in candidate stances. In state and local elections, there just isn't the same coverage that Prez elections garner, so we don't really know where they stand ... beyond the D and R after their names. Sadly, almost all R-tagged people have been liars and are unwilling to play fair. A few D-tagged people are also liars, but the ratio is tiny compared the the R-politicians. No D-politicians will will here in local elections. Statewide, there is hope.

The election this fall is mainly about the Governor and 1 US Senator seat. The local representatives really have a limited ability to impact national policy. It is mostly about school boards, education, zoning, cityhood, and health standards here. My county has excellent health professionals, but the politicians are idiots and overruled common sense suggestions. The county has 5 of the top schools in the state too, but the school boards, again, are overruling the health professionals for covid safety. Idiots.

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What a shame that Raffensberger, Pence, Kitzinger, and Cheney are the only Repubs with enough courage to stand up for our democracy and fight the fascists who tried to outright stage a coup and steal a free and fair election - just like in some banana republic...

That The Big Steal lie permeates the Repub electorate just shows how far they have strayed from our Constitution and towards authoritarianism and despotism...

Thank goodness the coup leader is under four criminal investigations, to include his obstruction phone call to Raffensberger to "find votes"....

"Find", as in "create"....just like the "fraudulent electors" and "fake certification lists"...

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He said Monday he would not have certified the election results without “proper investigation.”

Jody Hice is either a complete moron or utterly bereft of moral integrity. Georgia already did a number of audits (under a Republican administration, no less), and the results were found to be in order.

The end game is not to discover some smoking gun; the end game is to sow permanent doubt about any election won by Democrats. Shame on people like Jody Hice.

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What a shame that Raffensberger, Pence, Kitzinger, and Cheney are the only Repubs with enough courage to stand up for our democracy

Hardly, these are the Washington establishment that the people are trying to make unemployed. Any politician or in this case Republican that goes against the larger public in trying to depose a duly elected President should by no means hold any office.

The end game is not to discover some smoking gun; the end game is to sow permanent doubt about any election won by Democrats.

I think that is the only card the Dems have and they will continue to tell themselves this until November and maybe beyond, but it won't matter spit.

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"Find", as in "create".

no "find" as in "find".

like I have keys, but dont know where they are at the moment.

I need to find them.

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no "find" as in "find".

How do you "find" something that doesn't exist?

Say Trump's comments in a mob voice, and you see how they're pretty nefarious.

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no "find" as in "find".

Nonsense. He said find the exact number of voted needed to give him a win. How does one just "find" the votes needed to win? It's quite clear he meant "find" as in "create."

Thank goodness for honest people like Brad Raffensperger

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You'd have to be an idiot if you think election fraud happened in GA. It's all just made up nonsense with no evidence.

Trump lost. Get over it.

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What a shame that Raffensberger, Pence, Kitzinger, and Cheney are the only Repubs with enough courage to stand up for our democracy

Hardly, these are the Washington establishment that the people are trying to make unemployed.

What's "make unemployed" mean?

Any politician or in this case Republican that goes against the larger public in trying to depose a duly elected President should by no means hold any office.

Duly elected? You already admitted Biden won the election and is the legitimate President. Another flip-flop?

The end game is not to discover some smoking gun; the end game is to sow permanent doubt about any election won by Democrats.

I think that is the only card the Dems have and they will continue to tell themselves this until November and maybe beyond, but it won't matter spit.

The smoking gun was Trump telling Raffensberger to "find votes".....and creating "fraudulent electors and phony certification lists"...

Find", as in "create".

no "find" as in "find".

like I have keys, but dont know where they are at the moment.

Hilarious. Find as in "you and the Repub Governor have certified the vote and it is accurate - but I don't like the result so go make up 11K more votes so I win"....

Like finding "JD Mandel"...LOL...

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The judge who allowed the Trump phone records to be handed over mentioned Trumps' claims He wasn't looking to find fraud, he was looking for enough votes to win. The judge mentioned the difference.

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What's "make unemployed" mean?

Something to happen soon to the people you mentioned, stay tuned.

Duly elected? You already admitted Biden

“I was talking about Trump.” You don’t need to move the goalpost

Hilarious. Find as in "you and the Repub Governor have certified the vote and it is accurate - but I don't like the result so go make up 11K more votes so I win"....

Like finding "JD Mandel"...LOL...

Don't worry, the changing of the guard starts in November, so good stuff ahead for Dems, I hope more stay and don’t continue to bail as they are.

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You'd have to be an idiot if you think election fraud happened in GA.

You will never change the mind of millions that think otherwise.

It's all just made up nonsense with no evidence. 

Ok, we shall see now that Twitter is changing and dissenting voices will now be able to challenge the election results.

Trump lost. Get over it.

We know. Like Musk said, we need to see Twitter’s algorithms on how they worked and were programmed during the election and if Twitter complies we will know and if they don’t, then we will know!

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If my lunch costs 900 yeah I need to “find” 900 yen, at least. It doesn’t exist in my hand but when i go look for it and find it, then it does exist.

lets not pretend we don’t know one of the usages of the word “Find”

One of those illegal ballot harvesting boxes could have not been picked up and needed to be found.

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How do you "find" something that doesn't exist?

By looking for it, and then realizing it does exist when you find it.

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By looking for it, and then realizing it does exist when you find it.

Also known as making it up.

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Also known as looking and finding something you think doesn’t exist.

beer didn’t exist in my house. Unbeknownst to me, my gf bought some. So when I looked in the downstairs fridge instead if my fridge, I found it. Existed the whole time.

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The Georgia election was a mess. There are several open lawsuits right now about chain of custody and other issues. By the way ballot harvesting is illegal in Georgia and there are multiple videos showing people doing just that

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The Georgia election was a mess. 

No it wasn't. Trump supporters are just angry, because they lost.

It's telling that they only question the states where Trump lost. What a coincidence, huh?

There are several open lawsuits right now about chain of custody and other issues

Right, and their is also a grand jury weighing whether Trump broke the law.

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“Harris County elections administrator resigns after thousands of primary ballots found uncounted”

“found”. After election in Texas.

these existed, were not created or made up, but were found.

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What's "make unemployed" mean?

Something to happen soon to the people you mentioned, stay tuned.

Oh, what Trump's been since 2020....LOL....

Duly elected? You already admitted Biden

“I was talking about Trump.” You don’t need to move the goalpost

So was Biden legitimately elected in 2020 or not? Note - your archive already says you stated he was...

Hilarious. Find as in "you and the Repub Governor have certified the vote and it is accurate - but I don't like the result so go make up 11K more votes so I win"....

Like finding "JD Mandel"...LOL...

Don't worry, the changing of the guard starts in November, so good stuff ahead for Dems, I hope more stay and don’t continue to bail as they are.

So I guess you're voting for JD Mandel....good luck with that...

How do you "find" something that doesn't exist?

By looking for it, and then realizing it does exist when you find it.

Sure, like that MAGA-led audit that was done in Arizona - that found votes - more votes for Biden....LOL....

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/09/the-arizona-election-audit-reveals-more-votes-for-biden-no-evidence-of-fraud.html

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No sane people believe Trump won. Just the crazies with their heads up his rear.

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At least finally grown people can understand and admit what “find/found” actually mean.

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Bass: You will never change the mind of millions that think otherwise.

Do you think Trump legitimately won or did Biden? You go back and forth saying you don't believe it but millions of idiots do.

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Blacklabel: At least finally grown people can understand and admit what “find/found” actually mean.

The judge didn't agree. Get over it and move on with your life.

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It may be worth remembering that Trump claimed election fraud on 3 separate occasions to my knowledge, and I’ve often wondered if some sign up to all 3 or take a buffet-style approach to this.

Regarding 2020, there are different shades. Some try to salvage a sliver of credibility by taking the rather pathetic ‘who knows?’ approach - a bit slimy. I prefer those who have the honesty to completely humiliate themselves by believing it despite lack of evidence.

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Should have written ‘election fraud in 3 different elections’.

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No it wasn't. Trump supporters are just angry, because they lost. 

Well, Trump should get over it, it's over, let's hope the Dems will get over themselves when they lose the House and Senate. Not one word.

Right, and their is also a grand jury weighing whether Trump broke the law.

That will fold as well.

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SuperLibToday  10:22 am JST

You'd have to be an idiot if you think election fraud happened in GA. It's all just made up nonsense with no evidence.

Trump lost. Get over it.

Unlikely. The kinds of conservatives who get involved in politics appear to be sore losers. I expect this will invite a response along the lines of "we think the same about liberals" but that's just feeble 'right back at you' stuff which indicates intellectual vacuity.

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Unlikely. The kinds of conservatives who get involved in politics appear to be sore losers.

That will change in November.

which indicates intellectual vacuity.

I disagree, factually, that is what it means.

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lincolnmanToday  09:28 am JST

What a shame that Raffensberger, Pence, Kitzinger, and Cheney are the only Repubs with enough courage to stand up for our democracy and fight the fascists who tried to outright stage a coup and steal a free and fair election - just like in some banana republic...

Trump is not a Republican nor a Democrat. It's high time the GOP realizes that. And purge their party of these fascists.

SuperLibToday  10:22 am JST

You'd have to be an idiot if you think election fraud happened in GA. It's all just made up nonsense with no evidence.

Trump lost. Get over it.

83 million + Americans have spoken. Those 60+ bogus lawsuits went nowhere. And Joe won enough states even without Georgia to win.

Quit wasting everyone's time. Trump is a sore loser and a violent traitor. Arrest him so we can move on.

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Trump is not a Republican nor a Democrat.

True, he's a conservative.

It's high time the GOP realizes that. And purge their party of these fascists.

So that is why they and we are trying to get rid of the radical Washington establishment Republicans.

83 million + Americans have spoken. Those 60+ bogus lawsuits went nowhere. And Joe won enough states even without Georgia to win. 

Ok, we keep hearing that and until Musk bought out Twitter, we had to talk about only that same talking point, but that has changed, more to come.

Quit wasting everyone's time.

Why? I think as Americans now and more than ever do we have the absolute right to talk about election irregularities.

Trump is a sore loser and a violent traitor. Arrest him so we can move on.

Did you feel the same about Hillary when she lost? Honestly?

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bass4funkToday  12:56 pm JST

Unlikely. The kinds of conservatives who get involved in politics appear to be sore losers.

That will change in November.

Got your family kitted out in matching "GOP House and Senate 2022" t-shirts and hats, then?

which indicates intellectual vacuity.

I disagree, factually, that is what it means

Sorry but honestly, do you have some kind of problem? I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.

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