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Dear Germany,

The majority of Americans do not support this tin-foil-hat-wearing insane clown or his posse. We will fix this problem ASAP. We apologize for any inconvenience while we wrest our country from these white supremacist fascists. We know that you dealt with similar people in your past, so please bear with us.

Sincerely, The Real Americans

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Crazy Joe: I hope that people there with their integrity and good sense of morality, take actions ASAP as we outside of the US have been reaching the limits of our patience.

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The majority of Americans do not support this tin-foil-hat-wearing insane clown or his posse.

In the coastal areas of the US, you are right, not in the heartland or the working class.

We will fix this problem ASAP.

By forcefully undermining the president and the political US system?? Democracy??

We apologize for any inconvenience while we wrest our country from these white supremacist fascists. We know that you dealt with similar people in your past, so please bear with us.

So we should apologize for the Alt Left and the radical Anti-fada groups that are determined to undermine the president and the rule of law to cause havoc and destruction because they can't get their ways. The Democratic party has become the marginalized groups that has become the whining joke of all jokes and continues to fall down the abyss of political obscurity.

Sincerely, The Real Americans

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In the coastal areas of the US, you are right, not in the heartland or the working class.

and it wont be too long before the heartland and working classes realize they have been duded...most presidents grow into the role and mature... Trump prefers "look at me" tantrums that debase the office of the president of the USA

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and it wont be too long before the heartland and working classes realize they have been duded...most presidents grow into the role and mature... Trump prefers "look at me" tantrums that debase the office of the president of the USA

I think that's the lefts take, just like the left complained that Trump will never get nominated, elected or president, it's not the first time they were wrong and sure won't be the last. The funny thing is, other than the news the left keep pounding daily, the Russian drive by hits, the Tweet hits as usual are not working. Rachel Maddow is feeling the brunt of that as Donna Brazile, pathetic.

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@bass: You ought read what he said before you get attack mode on other comment writers. Youridle insisted Germany has to. pay him.

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Someone needs to sit down and educated Trump on how things work. It shouldn't be the job of German officials via the media.

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Someone needs to sit down and educated Trump on how things work.

Trump managed to change how many things work and change the entire status quo and good on him, but every president has gone through trials and tribulations throughout their presidencies. There is No rule book or on the job training, you just learn as time goes on and work with whatever fits your agenda or implement things and ideas as you go along.

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bass4funkMAR. 20, 2017 - 10:02AM JST The majority of Americans do not support this tin-foil-hat-wearing insane clown or his posse. In the coastal areas of the US, you are right, not in the heartland or the working class.

Yes indeed, the majority of Americans in coastal cities do not support this tin-foil-hat-wearing insane clown or his posse.

But you should probably not overstate his popularity in "the heartland". I come from the heartland and he is vehemently hated by many, but clearly not quite the same margin, as on the coasts. Those in the heartland who do see through his insane conspiracy theories hate him all the more strongly, because our areas are going to be disproportionately harmed by his idiotic policies.

So we should apologize for the Alt Left and the radical Anti-fada groups that are determined to undermine the president and the rule of law

No, don't apologize for the things you made up. Apologize for making them up, please.

Sincerely, The Real Americans

It's telling that you have to invent a personal attack to smear all Americans who disagree with you (also telling that the mods continually permit it despite otherwise aggressively silencing other posters who post content even slightly verging on ad hominems, but that's another story for another time...)

But most telling of all is that you post this claim on the very day that Gallup Polls show Trump at a record low 37% approval rate. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-gallup-poll-new-record-low-approval-ratings-russia-healthcare-wiretapping-twitter-a7638601.html

At this point, the people who continue to support Donald Trump are an extreme minority who likely can only do the mental gymnastics to continue their support by convincing themselves that everyone who disagrees with them hates America. Right on cue, you come into here and post nearly exactly that same idea. Well done.

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After watching Trump's childish behavior towards Merkel, something has become clearer to me. First, like a child, if something is said that Trump disagrees with, he attacks the person who said it personally; i.e., fake news, she's ugly, stupid, etc. Second, Trump supporters argue pretty much in the same immature way. If you point something out to them, instead of dealing with the issue, they say things like, well the alt left did this, or the dems did that. In other words, they use schoolyard tactics: "Johnny, don't do that!" "Well Mrs. Parker, he did it first/ he did it too". Johnny fails to grasp the point of personal responsibility. He blames others for his own actions. Trump supporters are keen on dividing everything up as either right or left, dems or republicans. This mentality is very rigid, and as reality is more complicated than just black and white, is useless in terms of getting anything solved. It keeps us divided, stifles any real solutions, and sends us back to square one. So when someone points out issues with Trump, simply responding with, well the dems did it first, or the alt left did the same thing, only worse; or blaming everyone else in past administrations, and making every issue a right or left thing, does nothing for anybody. It doesn't solve any issues, and it's just a spin tactic to evade any personal responsibility.

And what good is it to get more money from the U.N. or Germany if Trump is going to squander it on increasing the size of the already biggest military in the world, cut out the EPA and the DOE?

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But you should probably not overstate his popularity in "the heartland". I come from the heartland and he is vehemently hated by many,

And is loved as well, you didn't take a poll and he still rides pretty much unchanged with his base, because as wth everything he does, they don't care, the same as with Hillary or Obama base.

but clearly not quite the same margin, as on the coasts. Those in the heartland who do see through his insane conspiracy theories hate him all the more strongly, because our areas are going to be disproportionately harmed by his idiotic policies.

That's your opinion, but many also don't think so, I have a lot of family that live in the South and the heartland and they will tell you something entirely different.

No, don't apologize for the things you made up. Apologize for making them up, please.

Haven't done that yet and NOT about to start. Remember, video images don't lie. Don't hate the messenger, hate the message.

It's telling that you have to invent a personal attack to smear all Americans who disagree with you (also telling that the mods continually permit it despite otherwise aggressively silencing other posters who post content even slightly verging on ad hominems, but that's another story for another time...)

I'm not smearing or attacking anyone, but I do understand there is a large segment that hates Trump and I am equally aware that there is a large segment that loves him, even though the media cringe at it and it makes their heads explode.

But most telling of all is that you post this claim on the very day that Gallup Polls show Trump at a record low 37% approval rate.

Other presidents go through up and down polling, Obama, Bush, Clinton rode the same waves, we are past 50 days and it's normal, been doing this a very long time, I wouldn't put too much steak in the polls, remember, they can be very often shady and off as we have found out so many, many times.

At this point, the people who continue to support Donald Trump are an extreme minority

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've heard that all before, he won't get elected and no one supports the GOP for the House, the Senate....give it up, you guys are going to get a stroke in thinking all this, there are a lot more Trump supporters than you guys know, the REAL problem is, if everyone were honest, they all know how liberals around them act, they get whiny, moody, physical, they for some reason can't say, you like Trump, that's your choice, your opinion, I don't, but I respect it, so in order to avoid any type of conflict, a lot of Trump supporters just shut their mouths and try to keep the peace. The silent supporters.

who likely can only do the mental gymnastics to continue their support by convincing themselves that everyone who disagrees with them hates America. Right on cue, you come into here and post nearly exactly that same idea. Well done.

Well, I don't support the majority liberal policies, so what should I do. Come on now....

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If you are adverse to President Trump blunt, forceful, straightforward language. Then perhaps the Obama approach to the same requirement that NATO members to pull their weight, will hammer the message home.

“I want to take this opportunity to commend Greece for being one of the five NATO allies that spends 2 percent of GDP on defense, a goal that we have consistently set but not everybody has met,”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-nato-pay-fair-share-231405

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@bass you didn't take a poll and he still rides pretty much unchanged with his base,

Actually it looks like his base is shrinking.

https://gma.yahoo.com/trump-approval-rating-sinks-low-004425343--abc-news-topstories.html

For the last 30 or so years the working poor in the rustbelt states have seen things get increasingly worse. Now with many of them at risk of losing their healthcare look for even bleaker times ahead in the regions that voted for Trump. Opioid addiction's a big problem in the Trump states. During his campaign he promised to do something about it. How's that going? Or will any potential funds to deal with that and other problems be shifted away to build new nukes. Or a wall. Or to provide breaks and benefits for company's he's invested in.

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"Someone needs to sit down and educated Trump on how things work."

"Trump managed to change how many things work and change the entire status quo and good on him"

Missing the point as usual. Do you think it was a good idea to treat the leader of an ally like Germany with rudeness and accuse the security services of another ally, the UK, of being involved in spying on him with zero evidence, causing the leader of the UK to speak out on this trash?

Is this the mark of an informed leader?

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Twitter abuse at its worst.

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It's long been said NATO exists to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down. Trump must not have gotten the memo - wouldn't be the first time. Somehow, publicly insulting Germany does not seem a particularly wise move ... unless ... you're working for Russia.

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Pull out of Nato. It is a waste of time and money all around.

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abc News/GMA the same networks that George Clinton Surrogate Stephanopoulos works, yeah, I'm not surprised, of course their polls would say that, I would expect nothing else.

For the last 30 or so years the working poor in the rustbelt states have seen things get increasingly worse.

And the Democrats did nothing to fix that, that's why they lost big and have been over the last 30 years, good point.

Now with many of them at risk of losing their healthcare look for even bleaker times ahead in the regions that voted for Trump.

Now on this point, you are right, the GOP had 8 years to fix this monstrosity and they are all over the place, but it's not the end of the world, we are not even 100 days into this admin. and you can't make whip cream with a toothpick, this will take time and both sides need to come together to give it the bipartisan report it so desperately needs because if it doesn't, the American people suffer. If in 2018 the GOP would lose the House, I guarantee you, they will retaliate in the same way and back and forth it will go, so the Dems shouldn't smile too big just yet, it might come back to bite them, be careful what you wish for.

Opioid addiction's a big problem in the Trump states. During his campaign he promised to do something about it. How's that going?

2 months in, the man is not Jesus. Look how long it took for the ACA to get off the ground and to get the website up and running after millions spent. Rome wasn't built in a day and when the Dems are in the seat, they expect you to be patient, when the GOP are in the drivers seat, everything has to happen yesterday.

Or will any potential funds to deal with that and other problems be shifted away to build new nukes. Or a wall.

There's enough money to move around and to allocate to fund these projects.

Or to provide breaks and benefits for company's he's invested in.

One can only hope.

Do you think it was a good idea to treat the leader of an ally like Germany with rudeness and accuse the security services of another ally, the UK,

I think the German and the British government were equally as rude to Trump, so yes, if they can do it, he can as well or is there some rule where it states the POTUS has to take insults? Yeah, his tone is at times harsh, but that's what both are allies and enemies alike need at this point and time IMHO.

of being involved in spying on him with zero evidence, causing the leader of the UK to speak out on this trash?

But the Obama admin. did indeed spy on Merkel and Bibi and that's a fact, so while Trump has zero evidence of the Obama admin. spying on him, it is certainly plausible and I wouldn't put it past them.

Is this the mark of an informed leader?

I do believe so, shrewd at the very least.

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Germany rejects Trump's claim it owes NATO vast sums

Yet I guarantee they will start paying their fair share.

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It is the principals behind collective defence that is crucial to maintaining a deterrent.

Collective defence - Article 5....

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm

This 2014 BBC article is more relevant now than at any other time. Vladimir Putin: The rebuilding of ‘Soviet’ Russia....

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26769481

The threats of Vladimir Putin, who has promised to liberate the indigenous Russian population in Baltic States previously held under Soviet control is real. All that is needed to for this take place is a politically engineered spark, providing the justification for the Russian Federation to intervene with military force.

This is not the time to be complacent when it come to NATO members fulfilling there financial obligation to a 2% target of GDP funding in a timescale of not less than 2 years. Whatever the animosity towards President Trump, justified or not, Vladimir Putin's ideological loathing of NATO, and EU expansion, is not going to subside.

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bass

It gets funnier and funnier watching (and reading) how you defend this idiot Trump. Many are looking forward to the day you come to your senses!

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"I think the German and the British government were equally as rude to Trump, so yes, if they can do it, he can as well or is there some rule where it states the POTUS has to take insults?"

Please give examples of this rudeness.

"But the Obama admin. did indeed spy on Merkel and Bibi and that's a fact, so while Trump has zero evidence of the Obama admin. spying on him, it is certainly plausible and I wouldn't put it past them."

The idea that claims require evidence isn't really sticking over on the lunatic fringe, is it? I know you did screeching 180s on key ideas when you jumped on the Trump bandwagon but surely your status as a non-partisan journalist must reject the idea of unsubstantiated claims.

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It gets funnier and funnier watching (and reading) how you defend this idiot Trump.

I have been laughing a very long time at you guys on the left for coming so unglued and bent out of shape because of this president.

Many are looking forward to the day you come to your senses!

My senses never left me, but sadly, that cannot be the same for the left and the Washington establishment.

Please give examples of this rudeness.

Do I need to make a long list of the vitriol and rude things the British government in particular have said about Trump, the Germans, not as bad, but nonetheless.

The idea that claims require evidence isn't really sticking over on the lunatic fringe, is it?

What are you talking about? Of course the Obama admin spied on both Merkel and Netanyahu, indisputable and not to mention they used the IRS to target and take out conservative donors in the 2012 election cycle. How many times did Louis Lerner plead the 5th to that?

I know you did screeching 180s on key ideas when you jumped on the Trump bandwagon but surely your status as a non-partisan journalist must reject the idea of unsubstantiated claims.

No, sorry. Try again, Jim.

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Yet I guarantee they will start paying their fair share

Why should anyone spend 2% of GDP on war?

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Trumpski more interested in upping his golf game than his diplomatic one. 7th weekend since becoming the "I won't be taking vacation president". Costing $3 million for each trip.

Trumpski could reverse his recently announced cuts to arts, poor and elderly services if he cut his trips to Mar-a-Lago and lived permanently in White House instead, figures indicate. If he continues with the weekends to his Florida White House it will the taxpayer $600 million during the term of his office. The cuts he wants is $597 million.

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bass4funkMAR. 20, 2017 - 11:30AM JST And is loved as well, you didn't take a poll

Fortunately, Gallup did. 37% approval rate.

and he still rides pretty much unchanged with his base, because as wth everything he does, they don't care, the same as with Hillary or Obama base.

Exactly. His base doesn't care. Like I said before, they have chosen to live in a fantasy where they imagine everyone who opposes Trump hates America, and their opinion will not budge until they decide to start facing reality.

I have a lot of family that live in the South and the heartland and they will tell you something entirely different.

Which means it's time for you to acknowledge that the picture of Americans' perception of Trump is more complicated than your "Real Americans" BS.

No, don't apologize for the things you made up. Apologize for making them up, please. Haven't done that yet and NOT about to start.

No, I suppose like Trump you have a pattern of refusing to acknowledge when you've lied. Pity, really.

Other presidents go through up and down polling, Obama, Bush, Clinton rode the same waves,

No President has ever gone through such a wave in their first 3 months. Trump's presidency is a failure, and Americans of all political stripes are beginning to see it. I mean apart from the ones who insist on living in their fantasy world safe space bubbles where everyone who criticizes Trump hates America.

Well, I don't support the majority liberal policies, so what should I do.

Well, not straight up lying to defend a known liar would be a good start. Not trolling forums with pointless distractions would be another. But the best thing for you to do would be to start reading corroboratable facts and learning that your extremist political positions just don't fit reality. You wishing something was true doesn't make it true.

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"Please give examples of this rudeness."

"Do I need to make a long list of the vitriol and rude things the British government in particular have said about Trump, the Germans, not as bad, but nonetheless."

Please give just one example of rudeness or vitriol towards Trump from Theresa May. She defended the decision to allow Trump a state visit in the face of outrage. Trump will meet the queen after agreeing he could have "nailed" the mother of her grandchild and tweeting encouragement of paparazzi photos of the wife of her grandchild topless. Despite this pathetic, rancid trash, May defended him. She didn't make idiotic, baseless accusations about organizations in his country. By the way, I speak here as someone with little time for May or the royals.

"The idea that claims require evidence isn't really sticking over on the lunatic fringe, is it?"

"What are you talking about?"

I'm talking about the idea that claims require evidence. It's not that difficult. You make a claim and produce evidence to back it up. If you can't, it deserves to be dismissed. It's pretty easy if you look at it.

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President Trump is ill-mannered rude. It take time and practice to master this particularly insensitive offhandedness to achieve an optimum threshold for the irritatingly unyielding discourteous effect.

Get it right, and it's a foregone conclusion that not a soul on planet earth will care a monkeys toss what you have to say or the point you're are trying to make.

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America in Germany is still an occupation force. There are other countries with forces based in Germany... do we hear them bleating about being paid more for the defence of Germany? No, this is just Trump trying to screw NATO nations out of cash to fund his bonkers projects. He couldn't get it out of Japan, so he's turning his attention to Germany. Well I don't think Merkl will be too bothered about that... I admire anyone who can stand next to Trump on a stage and give him a WTF look.

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@bass

You know how this works. When it comes to Trump liberals are too overly distressed by ideas that run contrary to their views to have a rational discussion.

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Fortunately, Gallup did. 37% approval rate.

Trump was around 38% in September last year still became presidentas so he has more than enough time to change it. Get the ACA properly working, tax reform, keep doing well on jobs and he'll be fine.

Exactly. His base doesn't care.

Of course not, that's why they elected him, the same with Obama supporters, the same with Bush supporters.

Like I said before, they have chosen to live in a fantasy where they imagine everyone who opposes Trump hates America, and their opinion will not budge until they decide to start facing reality.

Well, naturally I would expect the left to make those kind of comments, I understand.

Which means it's time for you to acknowledge that the picture of Americans' perception of Trump is more complicated than your "Real Americans" BS.

I think the BS stems from Dems and libs trying to desperately grasp at straws to figure out how and what to do to get Trump out of office. So far, you guys haven't been lucky....at all.

No, I suppose like Trump you have a pattern of refusing to acknowledge when you've lied. Pity, really.

I have no problem with the truth, if I did, I would be seriously complaining about how disappointed I am in Trump, but I don't so far. I've acknowledged that point.

No President has ever gone through such a wave in their first 3 months.

There's a first time for everything. We have never had a businessman as a president. But then again, we never had a community organizer as a president as well.

Trump's presidency is a failure,

It's been almost 2 months, that's like saying, the Wright brothers would never succeed to getting a plane off the ground and take flight. Liberals are extremely impatient people unless they're in the drivers seat and when they are, they go at their own pace and for what ever reason, don't judge or push them-EVER. I get it, partisanship is cerebral necessity.

and Americans of all political stripes are beginning to see it.

They saw a lot worse during the primaries, again, as long as Trump focuses on healthcare, taxes and jobs, he will be just fine.

I mean apart from the ones who insist on living in their fantasy world safe space bubbles where everyone who criticizes Trump hates America.

I would call them more misguided kook aid drinkers.

Please give just one example of rudeness or vitriol towards Trump from Theresa May.

I wasn't necessarily talking about her, I was talking more others and the press, but I never understood why the Brits cared so much who we elect anyway, doesn't concern them. I could care less who's the PM in the U.K. or Chancellor im Germany. They can all and should worry about themselves.

She defended the decision to allow Trump a state visit in the face of outrage.

Yes, I'm aware of that, good on her.

Trump will meet the queen after agreeing he could have "nailed" the mother of her grandchild and tweeting encouragement of paparazzi photos of the wife of her grandchild topless. Despite this pathetic, rancid trash,

I take it, you don't like Trump.

May defended him. She didn't make idiotic, baseless accusations about organizations in his country. By the way, I speak here as someone with little time for May or the royals.

And your point?

I'm talking about the idea that claims require evidence. It's not that difficult. You make a claim and produce evidence to back it up. If you can't, it deserves to be dismissed. It's pretty easy if you look at it.

You can dismiss whatever you like. I'm fine with it. Kudos.

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I wasn't necessarily talking about her, I was talking more others and the press, but I never understood why the Brits cared so much who we elect anyway, doesn't concern them.

Couldn't disagree more. The leader of the free world is of concern to all peoples. If the US was some isolated country maybe there would be no need for much concern but since the claws of the American eagle reach across the globe then we have to be concerned who the president is, and what they intend to do while in office.

As for the British media there have also been the supporters of Trump. You view of the world may be limited to America but that does not apply to all.

There are also Brit's like myself who also have a large American family dating back many decades. Of great concern are my very elderly parents in Florida who have to spend thousands on medical care.

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I would like to know what Merkel says about Trump to her government, behind closed doors. The look on her face in the photos is one of abject horror.

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"Please give just one example of rudeness or vitriol towards Trump from Theresa May"

"I wasn't necessarily talking about her, I was talking more others and the so much who we elect anyway....I could care less who's the PM in the U.K. or Chancellor im Germany. They can all and should worry about themselves."

I remember one government minister, Boris Johnson, talking about Trump being "insane". It was very similar to you calling the Trump movement a "Lunatic fringe". Johnson, like you, changed his opinion when Trump looked like winning the GOP nomination. He tends to speak about him in more reserved terms while the you have gone completely head over heels on the lunatic fringe since your Damascene conversion.

Who leads important allies is very important. The image of the US abroad is also important. I know you stopped caring about the image of the US abroad since Trump's victory after hammering Obama for damaging the image of the US, but I think you should still care.

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Couldn't disagree more. The leader of the free world is of concern to all peoples. If the US was some isolated country maybe there would be no need for much concern but since the claws of the American eagle reach across the globe then we have to be concerned who the president is, and what they intend to do while in office.

You can do that, but the president will still decide what he thinks is right or wrong and you or I can grunt all we want, it doesn't make a bit of difference.

As for the British media there have also been the supporters of Trump.

I know, but the left are very good at trying to drown out that message.

You view of the world may be limited to America but that does not apply to all.

Of course not, but to most liberals, they wholeheartedly embrace Globalism, many of us want to take a step back for a change.

There are also Brit's like myself who also have a large American family dating back many decades. Of great concern are my very elderly parents in Florida who have to spend thousands on medical care.

Mine as well, no arguments here.

Who leads important allies is very important. The image of the US abroad is also important.

Listen, many of us felt that way about Obama as president, so its not that i don't have empathy with what you're saying.

I know you started caring deeply about the image of the US abroad since Obama's victory in 2008 after 8 years of a disasterous presidency and damaging the image of the US, but I think you should still care.

I fixed it for you it's more appropriate and yes, I do care, that's why I voted for Trump, exactly for that reason.

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I think the German and the British government were equally as rude to Trump, so yes, if they can do it, he can as well or is there some rule where it states the POTUS has to take insults?

I wasn't necessarily talking about her, I was talking more others and the press.........

You quite clearly stated "German and British Government," so by association, you meant the PM or Chancellor of those countries, whether you like it or not. I couldn't care less what the likes of the Daily Mail or Guardian say, but there is nowhere on record (or in quotes) what May or Merkel have said in a derogatory manner about Trump. Call yourself an independent journalist? Utterly laughable.

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"I know you started caring deeply about the image of the US abroad since Obama's victory in 2008 after 8 years of a disasterous presidency and damaging the image of the US, but I think you should still care."

That makes very little sense to me. I can only assume from the confusing grammar that "since Obama's victory in 2008 after 8 years of a disastrous presidency" refers to the Bush years. Should "since" be replaced with "after"?

So, you think that Trump is improving the image of the US abroad?

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In the coastal areas of the US, you are right, not in the heartland or the working class. considering the majority of the US wealth is generated in the coastal areas and the majority of the population lives there also, yes crazyjoe is correct in stating the majority of America and Americans do not support Trump. The end

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He tried to push through the TPP which you agreed with but suddenly did a screeching U-turn.

I evolved, happens.

Is rejecting the TPP a prerequisite to entering the lunatic fringe?

No, but I think asking liberal looney questions could very well be.

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that's the lefts take.

A growing number center and right wing people agree too. Check out the Fox News latest poll. Approval ratings are falling.

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Goodnight and sweet LMAOs.

Hmmm....It might be too difficult for you and the left to understand, because the only thing that liberals understand is the truth or their version of the truth, anything else, they could never understand or comprehend.

Night, homie.

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Hmmm....It might be too difficult for you and the left to understand, because the only thing that liberals understand is the truth or their version of the truth, anything else, they could never understand or comprehend.

Night, homie.

The same could be said about your posts.

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. . . the only thing that liberals understand is the truth . . ."

So, understanding the truth is now a bad thing?

Wow!

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Well Germany did sign a treaty and pledged 2% to defense. Since Germany has not lived up to it's obligations under the treaty it's not a bad thing to call them out on that. Surely the Germans would have expected the US to defend their country had the Soviets invaded during the Cold War. I suppose that still feel that way today. But if they are not willing to live up to their obligations how can they expect the US to do so?

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Germany rejects Trump's claim it owes NATO vast sums

I understand that haters gotta hate, and personal attacks seem to be the new norm on the internet, but

does anyone have any comments on Berlin’s defense budget having long been below NATO’s target of 2 percent of a member’s gross domestic product?

Germany agreed to fund NATO. Germany is not meeting it's obligation. Should Germany be expected to meet it's obligation?

p.s. Unless CrazyJoe holds some elected position within the U.S. government, CrazyJoe only speaks for CrazyJoe. CrazyJoe does not have the votes to change anything. Of course, CrazyJoe is free to apologize for his own behavior.

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Well Germany did sign a treaty and pledged 2% to defense. Since Germany has not lived up to it's obligations under the treaty it's not a bad thing to call them out on that.

That's the part so many don't understand, they think calling out Germany on its obligation or the tone of how it was presented was disrespectful, so how was Trump supposed to say it?

Surely the Germans would have expected the US to defend their country had the Soviets invaded during the Cold War. I suppose that still feel that way today. But if they are not willing to live up to their obligations how can they expect the US to do so?

This all goes out to liberals wanting to keep the status quo and Trump calling these people out is rocking that boat and shattering that status quo. Good on Trump for keeping the pressure on them.

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