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Rape does not deserve death (penalty), sorry. That said, being repeatedly raped by her father, if it was a crime of passion it's understandable she might react like that in defense. In any case, sick father, and now probably sick girl.

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He got what he deserved.

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No, I can not feel sorry for the father. There are probably other rapists hiding away right now because of what this brave girl did.

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A very cool thinking girl who realized she was not at fault and had the guts and savvy to do what was necessary. And a triumph of justice that the villagers understood this and protected her. This girl and the villagers define sanity. Many kudos to all them.

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In many countries she would've been up for the death penalty for adultery.

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@nessie

that is such a blatantly false sentence.

he got what he deserved. nuff said.

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Brave girl! One animal gone!

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This place can be a very wild and backward place at times. Beheading her father for rape, maybe contacting the authorities would have been the correct approach.

Some of the villages still walk out of the jungle from time to time carrying bow and arrows with bones in their noses and are very removed from modern day society so have little concept of the modern world.

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cut off the wrong head here

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Most of PNG is a stone-age culture, so I don't know if "poverty-stricken" is appropriate to describe it.

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Let her free on self-defense. The real criminal got what he deserved.

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Ah, PNG! What a special place that is, NOT! I worked in Port Morsby for three months 20 odd years ago and could nnot wait for my assignment to finish so I could get the hack out of there. I would have felt safer in the lions' cage at the zoo. I hope the community are able to keep this girl away from prosecution. PNG is a stone age country and normal laws should not apply. Even when I was there all those years ago, child prostitution and sexual abuse was rife. I doubt if it has gotten any better.

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Serves the bastard right!!

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I bet she is going to need some Counselling after this ! it must be horrific, one to be raped and then to kill your own farther!..... MAD!

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What a terrible story... I really don't know how to respond.

I am against capital punishment, but my gut reaction is "Good job".

That won't help future victims though, will it. An actual / would-be rapist will just arm himself more, and perhaps even kill the girl after he rapes her, rather than let her live.

While I admire the community leaders protecting her, I hope that these communities don't wait until after such an attack to protect their women in the future.

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Rape does not deserve death (penalty), sorry.

But it saves resources and reduces the number of scumbags.

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Rape does not deserve death (penalty), sorry. That said, being repeatedly raped by her father, if it was a crime of passion it's understandable she might react like that in defense. In any case, sick father, and now probably sick girl

Sorry, but depending upon the circumstances I disagree. This wasn't just a "rape" it was incestuous rape which raises it beyond the level of "just" a plain ordinary rape.

One of the people in her life that was supposed to love and protect her raped her, maybe you are right the death penalty was too much, he should have gone to jail and been a frack-boy for the rest of his normal life.

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GOOD GIRL! finaly a girl who stands up for herself.... unlike those who get raped by their fathers and keep quite. And who ever sais that rape does not deserve death talk to ANY girl who has been raped... their lives are ruined and they would much rather be murdered than raped... So i support this girl 100%

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brutal, but, effective.

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@rickyvee

Um, no. It's not a false statement. In any country under sharia law you need the testimony of 4 witnesses to charge someone with rape, but all you need to charge and unmarried girl with adultery is someone to say her hymen is broken. I witnessed the execution of a 16 yr old rape victim in Afghanistan 3 yrs ago. She was raped by a 40 yr old cousin and when she told someone about it he ran away and she was executed.Not all the world is living comfortably in the 21st century.

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CraigHicks,

A very cool thinking girl who realized she was not at fault and had the guts and savvy to do what was necessary.

I don't know where you get that from.

I'm not saying what she did was right or wrong, but cool thinking it wasn't.

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So those that think she did the right thing agree with butcherous barbaric MURDER to solve problems ?

Or maybe its just that the death penalty is ok?

I do not agree with what her father did to her but there are proper ways to deal with things.

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WOW! What a headline...

The more I think about it, the more extraordinary this story is. Unbelievable, really.

I can really only think of it from the victim's point of view here, which is clearly the girl. I can't imagine what rape is like - it must be absolutely the worst form of torture. To be treated so callously by another human for sexual gratification with no regard...it's just the foulest act. To have that perpetrated by your father - the one man who should be doing everything in his power to protect you? It's evil. Vile. It's the worst thing.

He got what he deserved. No sympathy for him whatsoever.

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I do not agree with what her father did to her but there are proper ways to deal with things.

How much proper could she have gotten. Justice was served. It the long run it's probably better that it happened this way because now she will never have to fear facing her attacker ever again.

And anyone who believes that this was the first time has got to have their head buried in the sand.

I don't know where you get that from. I'm not saying what she did was right or wrong,but cool thinking it wasn't.

He "got" that from "thinking", doh!

What she did was defend herself in the best manner she knew how, that takes cool thinking.

Most people would panic, she did not. The typical response would be to either run or freeze in shock. She did neither.

Way to sit on the fence on right or wrong. There is no middle ground either you believe what she did was right or wrong. That's the problem with too many people today, can make a decision, too worried it might "offend" someone.

What she did was morally right. Legally? That's a different story for the authorities to decide.

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Where to draw the line between vengeance, revenge and justice.

Yes, the father raped which is a crime bukt so is murder/killing addi to that mutilation of a Body. Neither can she claim self-defense when looking at the legal definition(being in immediate threat of ones life).

This just shows to me how easy it is to go from victim to 1st class criminal.

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ummmm stabbing and killing somebody in self defense is one thing, cutting a head clean off is a completely different thing. I have no problem if she stabbed her father multiple times, but to cut his head off?? Anyway, unless we are told how it was done such as standing up or he was lying down, etc it is kind of hard to imagine.

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Where to draw the line between vengeance, revenge and justice.Yes, the father raped which is a crime bukt so is murder/killing addi to that mutilation of a Body. Neither can she claim self-defense when looking at the legal definition(being in immediate threat of ones life).

It would really help if you would have read the article, the answer regarding self-defense is in it!

Pastor Lucas Kumi said the man went to his daughter’s room in the night and raped her repeatedly.

“The father wanted to rape his daughter again in the morning inside the house and that was when the young girl picked up the bush knife and chopped her father’s head off,” he said.

Neither can she claim self-defense when looking at the legal definition(being in immediate threat of ones life).

Rape is a physical assault and I dont see how in the world anyone would say or think or use your justification here.

Using your logic here, I could rape you, and you could't not use any weapons at your disposal in defending yourself because there is no threat to your life. Just stand there and take it, I'm not going to kill you.

Where in the world does anyone come up with thinking like this when discussing a heinous act of rape

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Yubaru.

Open a law book and read the legal definition of 'self-defense'. BTW I read the article and she is a woman of 18(an adult in many Countries) and she had no other choice/option?

You also stated that her action was legally wrong but morally right. Glad most of the world don't share your idea of morals.

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@It's me.....(take your own advice)

Open a law book and read the legal definition of 'self-defense'

Under both Criminal Law and Tort Law, self-defense is commonly asserted in cases of Homicide, Assault and Battery, and other crimes involving the attempted use of violence against an individual. Statutory and case law governing self-defense is generally the same in tort and criminal law.

The crime of rape is an assault and "use of violence against an individual".

self-defense n. the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor, if the defender has reason to believe he/she/they is/are in danger

She may have ended up cutting his head off, and who knows maybe she did it in one stroke, or two, or three, doesnt matter, she tried and successfully defended herself from another assault. That is self-defense.

You also stated that her action was legally wrong but morally right. Glad most of the world don't share your idea of morals.

Care to borrow my glasses? I did not state what she did was legally wrong. Go back and read it again. Wait, I'll show you here; (Don't put words into my mouth that I did not say! Thank you very much)

What she did was morally right. Legally? That's a different story for the authorities to decide.

And I stand by that statement.

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What if she is lying. Any evidence of rape of rape?

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I do not agree with what her father did to her but there are proper ways to deal with things.

Maybe not in many places but in PNG that is the proper way isn't it?

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No bull, she had other options and the rapes happened when the rest of the family was awayy, she could have gone on the trip too or stayed with a friend,etc.

Lots of options, not sure if PNG uses the death-penalty. Her fathers action deserve a prison term and a restraining order but not death.

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Sounds like self defense to me. Get that machete moving fast and heads will roll!

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Sounds like self defense to me.

That it was my friend, that it was.... She knew he was going to harm her against her will physically, so she physically stopped him resulting in him losing his life.

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Hard to argue against this.

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Very concerned that many here think she did the correct thing just from her word. Was she really raped or is she a cold blooded murderer? We have been condition by modern society to think in a way that women are victims and men are bad. It may not be true in this case but it is possible she murdered her father because of a row or because she is mentally ill.

The man has not be proven guilty, yet he is dead. The daughter should be punished by poison or if as i suspect she has a mental illness, in a secure hospital.

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No bull, she had other options and the rapes happened when the rest of the family was awayy, she could have gone on the trip too or stayed with a friend,etc.

You make a lot of assumptions as if it was you that was there. You CAN NOT know what was going on in her head or the entire situation just based on the article here. You seek to justify your comments by creating a situation that may or may not have existed, but you assume more than you actually know.

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flaseflagsteve

Was she really raped or is she a cold blooded murderer?

Is there any reason to think she wasn't? It does say:

Brutality against women, including domestic violence and rape, is also endemic in the country.

To be honest, ffs, I think your post tends to reflect much that is flawed and now highly exploited in our legal system in defence law- namely, that so much time is now spent in cases trying to protect the rights of the criminal or perpetrator, or muddying the waters of the case, or looking for and using technicalities to absolve them of the crime that we really have lost sight of justice. In fact, many Western legal systems have nothing to do with justice at all any more.

In this case, the people in her community who live with/around her family have vowed to protect her from prosecution which suggests that they believe she was justified in killing the man. That's a powerful statement, and they clearly don't think she should face any repercussions from it.

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@Tamarama

You think my post is flawed, yet you find it ok that an un convicted man has been beheaded. If the father raped her , then he is a criminal but then so is she , she is a murderer. Doesn't matter what the community thinks, he may have been a horrible drunken pig, unpopular with most and her an innocent acting young lady who used this as an excuse to kill. I don't know if this is the case, but i do know that those who condone her actions are not playing with a full deck.

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Doesn't matter what the community thinks, he may have been a horrible drunken pig, unpopular with most and her an innocent acting young lady who used this as an excuse to kill. I don't know if this is the case, but i do know that those who condone her actions are not playing with a full deck.

I hope you are never forced to walk in this young woman's shoes. It's easy to convict her from behind a keyboard.

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@Yubaru

Hope you are never on a jury or a judge. You have decided her act is justified and her father is a rapist from her word alone. BTW, i did not say she is lying, i suggested people look at other options, however some just jump to conclusions .

She may have suffered hell, maybe nothing, maybe a cold blooded killer. It is for the legal system to decide, i never make decisions to be popular or because it seems with it,.

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ffs

You think my post is flawed, yet you find it ok that an un convicted man has been beheaded.

In this case, yeah, I do, and so does the community she lives in and so do many people on this thread.

Doesn't matter what the community thinks, he may have been a horrible drunken pig, unpopular with most and her an innocent acting young lady who used this as an excuse to kill.

Are you saying you know their situation better than they do? From the comfort of your keyboard and chair and western cultural perspective? Sounds like moral and cultural imperialism to me.

I don't know if this is the case, but i do know that those who condone her actions are not playing with a full deck.

Oh, so you know me as well huh? And all the people here who can see how the circumstances she has endured have caused her to commit a terrible act too? You know all of us are 'without the full deck'?

You seem to know a lot better than most people, huh?

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Hope you are never on a jury or a judge. You have decided her act is justified and her father is a rapist from her word alone. BTW, i did not say she is lying, i suggested people look at other options, however some just jump to conclusions .

If you happened to read my other posts here you would know my feelings on the subject. However, assuming that the reports of repeated violent rapes are true, what she did was in my opinion self defense when he attempted to rape her again.

None of us were there when it happened, and yes she murdered her father, but if the reports are to be believed, and there is nothing as of yet anywhere that states otherwise, what she did could very well be seen as self-defense and justifiable homicide!

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Yubaru.

Law The right to protect oneself against violence or threatened violence with whatever force or means are ****reasonably necessary.

I ask again if she already endured multiple rapes why than did she not make sure that she was never alone with him, etc. She was 18 after all a woman and not a child.

As was said her communities actions fall under 'aiding and abetting' a murderess. Take a step back and look at the article objective.

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