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Cards fan
Please go for it. Give him the Bill Clinton treatment.
Pretty pathetic that the house wastes time on this nonsense.
Simon Foston
As if that matters in the MAGAverse. Winning the 2020 election was the major crime as far as Donald Trump is concerned and there's plenty of evidence of that.
plasticmonkey
responsibility = worshipping at the feet of their Lord 'n' Savior Donald Trump
There you have it. Doing the golden calf's bidding.
Simon Foston
Cards fan
Today 06:56 am JST
They don't seem to have much of a clue what to do about anything else. Going after Biden to keep Trump supporters sweet is pretty much all the can agree on, although I suspect many of them know it's a waste of time.
dagon
Repubs always never doing any good for the people amd just engaging in power plays to appeal to their maroon base.
Biden should have been investigated for turning Delaware into an American Cayman Islands while posing as wanting to raise wealth taxes.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/whats-matter-delaware-joe-bidens-194150855.html
In that sense Trump and Biden are complicit in financial fraud.
yakyak
It doesn't matter, Biden is history.
Simon Foston
plasticmonkey
Today 07:03 am JST
Well it does sound a bit like a pilgrimage, doesn't it.
Jay
Whether by impeachment or gentle push into retirement, Joe Biden should no longer be President. It's borderline cruel to force our senior citizens to do things they're clearly incapable of doing in their advanced elderly years.
Joe should be more concerned with winning the jackpot at Monday night bingo than calling the shots on matters of massive global importance.
Cards fan
And there you have it. The right is very concerned about corruption.
Simon Foston
dagon
Today 07:13 am JST
Hrm. It certainly stinks but it doesn't appear from the article that Biden's been involved in anything actually illegal. If the GOP had a more viable candidate for 2024 they could maybe use this stuff against him and get some Democrat-leaning swing voters, but I think a lot of them might rally round Biden to keep Trump out.
TokyoLiving
Biggest circUS on earth...
Blacklabel
Too late. Biden will be thrown out in the election anyway if he even makes it that far.
Should have done this 2 years ago if they were going to impeach.
bass4funk
Or the Trump treatment…twice.
Well, I kind of agree with you, but as in the Dems case they think they have good reason then go for it. Our objections didn’t stop the Dems and now their objections won’t stop the GOP.
No, it’s about Biden and his nefarious business dealings with Ukraine, China, Kazakhstan.
Even if that is the case, it doesn’t matter, the Dems do the same thing, so this is the world of politics. When the Dems went after Trump in the manner they did, what did they expect? Anyway, the left can’t say anything, they just need to deal with it. Just remember, when the left went after and impeached him, every conservative complained and it didn’t stop the left and now that pendulum swung back. The Dems have to deal with it.
Simon Foston
Blacklabel
Today 07:49 am JST
Then they shouldn't be bothering with it now, should they.
PTownsend
The GOP has long been a party for which 'evidence' has not mattered, and lately it's more Qanon-ish, believing in all sorts of wack further spread by the former guy, aka Fraudmeister-in chief, whose conspiracy theories and outright lies are spread by his own blog, and by Murdoch and Musk's media empires, aided greatly by Putin and Xi and their media and social media warriors. The GOP want to undermine the republic and replace it with pure corporatocracy, with a system where the greediest and wealthiest can have no laws nor regulations to slow their quests for even more wealth for them, while saying screw the country and those that are not already wealthy, i.e. the majority of the nation..
Cards fan
Not according to the latest polls. :)
No, not the Trump treatment. Trump went on to lose. Clinton got impeached and the reelected.
No they don't. They demanded Hunter Biden testify, but won't let him testify publicly. They know they've got nothing, and making it publicly will prove this.
They've got 0 proof of nefarious dealings. See the article:
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No they wouldn't. The Democrat party isn't a cult of personality.
dagon
There's the rub and the Hobson's choice.
I didn't even get into Biden's making it more difficult for poor people to have bankruptcy protection.
It just shows how useless the GOP is for the people and the area left for a real populist candidate on the left.
Trump gave up his pledge to take on Wall Street in 2016 after beating Hilary.
Still talks about taking on those 'elites' though.
2020hindsights
bass4funk
responsibility = worshipping at the feet of their Lord 'n' Savior Donald Trump
The problem with that, is that they have absolutely no evidence that Joe Biden had any nefarious business dealings with Ukraine, China, Kazakhstan at all. No evidence. None. Zilch.
And the funny thing is that James Comer subpoenaed Hunter Biden to testify and he agreed as long as it is public. Now James wants it secret! If they have explosive evidence, let's expose it!
Bob Fosse
Go for it. If you have evidence let’s all see it.
If Biden is guilty lock him up. Investigate all serious crime allegations.
What will actually happen however is nothing. A case of put up or shut up, then make up a cover up to explain why nothing happened.
Go for it, apparently impeachments just make the impeached stronger, right?
bass4funk
Yes, Trump treatment, the Dems went after Trump twice, impeached him and he was acquitted twice and now surpassing Biden in the polls.
The public testimony is coming later, no rush and if they didn’t have anything, he wouldn’t even give private testimony. Let’s see where this goes, didn’t go with Trump and you might be right, might not go with Biden, who knows.
You don’t know what they have, if you do, show us, prove it, you screaming on JT they have nothing means nothing to the people up in DC, but you are allowed to have an opinion, we all do.
Ok, that’s what you think, millions of us have a different opinion on that.
bass4funk
You guys can say that all day, I feel the same about what the Dems have on Trump and the Dems say they do, I can’t stop the Dems and you can’t stop the Republicans, so let’s see who has what and who doesn’t.
Hunter also said the laptop wasn’t his despite every bit of information was Hunter’s, go figure.
So let’s see, we have time, calm down.
Cards fan
Actually, that's not true. Try again. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/
Also, when I talk about the Clinton treatment, I'm talking about the bump in polling he got after being impeached. Impeach away. I wang Biden to run up his polling numbers even more.
That's what they claim, but the GOP also lies a lot. I suspect there won't be a public hearing after he testifies.
Back at you friend. You don't know what they've got either, but you sure seem confident they got dirt on Biden. Which is funny because they don't want Hunter to testify in public. :)
Lol Okay, then who is the DNC cult of personality centered around?
bass4funk
I disagree, same political playbook.
Trump is getting that and he was impeached twice, and Biden’s number is going down and fast.
The Dems even more, not sure where to even begin.
No one knows, we will have to wait and see.
To you as well.
His former boss.
Cards fan
Disagree all you want. The fact still remains that Biden is beating Trump in the latest polls.
Is that why he lost his reelection bid? Is that why he's losing to Biden in the latest polls as well?
And now you're backtracking. Come on friend, what about those claims of nefarious business dealings in Ukraine? Complete nonsense.
His former boss? Lol right, Obama is the real kingmaker of the DNC. DNC members are constantly seen going in and out of his house. Totally. :)
bass4funk
Yes.
Uh-huh…lol
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/11/28/no_really_biden_is_in_trouble_against_trump.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/bidens-polling-dangerous-territory-obamas-2011-rcna126759
What?
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/25/biden-polls-worse-trump-00128536
Not backtracking, I don’t need to, I’m not the one in the hot seat and I’m not the one being subpoenaed or the one working in congress. I I don’t know what the Republicans have, or what they don’t have, they feel they have a good case, well, then, let’s see it I am open for it, just like you would be if the Dems have something on Trump, I don’t think they have anything on Trump, you don’t think they have anything on Biden. OK let’s just see how this thing plays out.
Pretty much.
John
Trump did the things he was accused of. There were witnesses.
GQP Toadies just didn’t care.
Buden isn’t even accused of a specific offense yet and there is F-All for evidence.
The whistleblowers aren’t. The one is actually a fugitive from justice.
So just like Clinton, let’s watch this crash and burn, it won’t even get 1/2 the votes in the Senate.
And it’s going to show those not in the cult just how concerned the GQP really is in solving actual problems.
And no, Biden isn’t going to lose to a sex-offending soon to be convicted felon.
Yharnam Resident
I don't believe that, I bet they get all giddy thinking about it while swinging their little feet around at their desks.
bass4funk
As in Biden’s not just that, there’s audio and video of him boasting about it.
And the Dems care? That would be a first.
And we shall see, no one knows yet, that’s what we are trying to find out. You would want this, technically, because if there’s nothing, then you can rest, assured that this guy is not compromised, so these hearings are a good thing to clear the air of corruption, possibly.
Yeah, the Dems don’t get to determine who is a whistleblower and who isn’t, they can scream that, but they can’t legally determine that on their end, especially if the person is registered as one and is classified as one.
You are probably right, I’m not a big fan of impeachment, I didn’t like when the Republicans impeached Bill Clinton, I thought it was a waste of time that the Democrats went after Trump and impeached him twice, but if these people think they have something, go for it.
They won’t be able to solve any problems as long as they’re the minority, and as long as we have a democrat president, that won’t happen, the only thing that they can do is make sure that this doesn’t go off of spending spree, and I’m happy for that, and good for the house and doing their job limiting administrations open checkbook.
Reality, he already is, every single poll says it, every single one, left or right or independent.
John
bass4funkToday 09:18 am JST
In no way shape or form I are the statements taken out of context Impeachable Offenses.
Just like Romney a year out, eh? How’d that go?
And Mitt wasn’t a proven sex-offender and likely convicted felon.
Thought you didn’t believe in polls?
Biden isn’t losing to Cheeto-Jesus.
Bob Fosse
Pull the other one. You’ll have excuses and conspiracies aplenty when nothing comes of this.
2020hindsights
bass4funk
The problem with that, is that they have absolutely no evidence that Joe Biden had any nefarious business dealings with Ukraine, China, Kazakhstan at all. No evidence. None. Zilch.
The Dems don't have anything on Trump and they aren't going after him. The prosecutors in Georgia, New York, and Florida, however, do have evidence on Trump and much of it is public.
No they don't.
Well, we have seen much of the evidence against Trump, and there was obviously enough to indict him 4 times. The same isn't true for Biden.
Kurumazaka 2
Hunter offered to testify as long as the hearing was public. Comer said hell no.
wonder why?
agondocz
I wonder whether Johnson's comments were meant to distract the media about George Santos's impending expulsion from the House.
2020hindsights
bass4funk
No they don't. They demanded Hunter Biden testify, but won't let him testify publicly. They know they've got nothing, and making it publicly will prove this.
Why have a private testimony? If they had something on Hunter isn't it better that it come out for all to see? What are they trying to hide?
Sure they would. They are going on a fishing expedition. Because they have nothing.
They've got 0 proof of nefarious dealings. See the article:
If they had evidence they wouldn't keep it secret. They would use it to impeach Joe Biden.
bass4funk
You’re a member of Congress and oversight committee? You never told us this. Huh…
True
Where have you been for the last 8 years????
Do you know how many blacks were executed in the U.S. based on faulty evidence we know the government lied about just because they wanted to uphold the white status quo. Sorry, if I’m skeptical after all these years and that sentiment is growing nation,
Yes, they absolutely do.
And much of it failing, now the Dems are getting ridiculously erratic and going to great lengths to stop this guy from running, it’s looking sad, pathetic and just plain stupid.
That is their hope, and his poll numbers still climb, damn!
Getting their slowly.
Bob Fosse
Oh the sad irony.
bass4funk
They do.
There has to be a reason why? You and I don’t know what that reason is. Must be a calculated one.
I don’t know, but there has to be a valid reason as to what that reason is, time will tell.
Like with Trump, I see.
Like with Trump.
When you become a congressman, please tell us about the rules and protocol please until then, we all can throw guesses
That’s coming it seems.
Bob Fosse
That’s exactly why you can’t go after Hunter.
Because at some point in the past incorrect verdicts have been made. We just can’t take the risk of investigating any crimes in the future because this happened in the past.
Case dismissed.
/s
2020hindsights
bass4funk
*The prosecutors in Georgia, New York, and Florida, however, do have evidence on Trump and much of it is public.*
Trump will have his day in court and we will see what they have. I'm pretty confident that if Mark Meadows testifies against Trump, it will be pretty convincing.
Well, we have seen much of the evidence against Trump,
The Dems are doing nothing to stop Trump from running. If you disagree, let me know what you think they are doing.
The same isn't true for Biden.
They aren't getting anywhere. They don't have one piece of evidence of any wrongdoing.
stormcrow
Impeach Biden . . . Isn’t that asinine?!
Today’s Republican Party is so ridiculous.
u_s__reamer
More egg on MAGA mugs. This right-wing bunch of traitors are unredeemable (as future polls will prove).
Kurumazaka 2
Steve Bannon just said that Hunter is calling Comer’s bluff and that the House committee is clearly afraid of Hunter. Steve is all for the public hearing, but clearly thinks Comer isn’t up to the task.
say what you will about Bannon, he’s a hell of a lot smarter than Jim Comer.
bass4funk
Or Trump
I agree
Yes, yes!
Well, you and I can’t make that determination, but I agree otherwise on both men.
As the Republicans do have on Biden.
Hmmmm.
We don’t know, but since the left are after him and will use any method, I’m not surprised. Meadows is 100% a Trump backer and if he testifies against him means one thing, what did the Feds tell him to turn?
As well as Biden
Running and going after him are two entirely different things
The polls look disastrous for Biden
If that were true we wouldn’t even have the closed door hearings.
Blacklabel
There will be a closed door deposition under subpoena.
then a public hearing where any lying can be compared to answers given under oath in the deposition.
adam Schiff was all for closed door depositions in investigations.
This is an investigation.
2020hindsights
bass4funk
*The prosecutors in Georgia, New York, and Florida, however, do have evidence on Trump and much of it is public.*
Where? I haven't seen one piece of evidence.
The same isn't true for Biden.
No they don't, but I don't see how it's relevant one year from the election.
They aren't getting anywhere.
That doesn't make sense. Hearings are to find out things. If they had any evidence at all, they wouldn't keep it secret.
Blacklabel
Biden was losing in 12 polls in a row. A couple of +1 polls form left leaning orgs that only add up to 85% of the vote doesn’t change anything.
32% on the economy?
UChosePoorly
Lol, this is not how the US works.
2020hindsights
Blacklabel
Why? Surely James Comer wants Hunter to admit to all his crimes in front of the world. Unless, there were no crimes.
Oh, there won't be a public hearing if they come up empty handed. There will only be spin pretending that they got something.
No it isn't, it's a fishing expedition.
Blacklabel
quite different from yours pals falsely claiming Trump is losing in the polls right now.
i notice you didn’t correct them, why?
Blacklabel
Hmmm looks like….. “evidence”
“Money laundering investigator warned of Hunter Biden's 'unusual,' 'erratic' payments from China in 2018
The bank investigator raised concerns about money that ultimately funded the $40,000 payment to Joe Biden, Comer says”
2020hindsights
Blacklabel
But they are a year away
Well they aren't wrong. E.g., the latest (Nov. 25-27) YouGov / The Economist poll has Biden 44% Trump 42%,
I.e., Biden+2
Because, I'm not interested in the polls a year out.
bass4funk
Because YOU personally haven’t seen it doesn’t mean they don’t have any. Again, if you work in Congress show us what you know..
Not according to what the Republicans have on him
Yes, they do show me a pole where it says that Biden is ahead of Trump 10 points
Neither are the Trump hunters.
A lot in politics, don’t make sense, I say, the same thing about the Dems obsession with Trump, but they want to go that route, let them. lol
Blacklabel
“Furthermore, there has been negative news regarding the beneficial owner of Owasco PC, Robert Hunter Biden (son of former U.S. Vice President- Joe Biden) regarding allegations by his ex-wife that there were financial concerns about his extravagant spending on his own interests (drugs, strip clubs, prostitutes, etc.) which may put his family in a deep financial hole," the investigator wrote”
2020hindsights
Blacklabel
Unfortunately for you, it isn't.
Having working in an investment bank on anti-money laundering, there is a difference between a red flag, which means you investigate, and actual money laundering, which is a crime.
Considering Hunter hasn't been indicted on money laundering, this was the former. Not a crime.