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GOP tries to rein in Democrat governors on virus response

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Republican-controlled legislatures are increasingly trying to strip Democratic governors of their executive authority to close businesses and schools

Time will tell what the best approach is. Risks regardless which approach is taken.

I assume those among Republicans pushing to open things back up are willing to accept the fallout should things go farther south, and they won't echo their Trump saying 'I don't take responsibility for that' and/or point fingers of blame at the usual 'others' the rightwing have demonized like Fauci, Hillary, Obama, CNN, etc.

Of course Covid19 started in China, but Trump and his admin are responsible for Covid45, the US variation.

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I assume those among Republicans pushing to open things back up are willing to accept the fallout should things go farther south, and they won't echo their Trump saying 'I don't take responsibility for that' and/or point fingers of blame at the usual 'others' the rightwing have demonized like Fauci, Hillary, Obama, CNN, etc.

You assume incorrectly, I’m afraid. The days of republicans actually taking responsibility for their actions have long passed, along with them being fiscally responsible. Now, their default position is that everything is Obama’s and Democrat’s fault. Sickening.

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Boneheads . . . these are the same people who don't say anything when their president encourages people to drink and ingest disinfectants. They should just shut up and let the intelligent people come up with a way out of this mess, not hang around mucking things up with their screwy ideas. Trump is batting a thousand in that department so he doesn't need any help.

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America is in the midst of a vast, self-reinforcing culture of malignant and fatal lunacy.

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Conservative justices voiced opposition to Evers’ order during oral arguments, with one likening the order to tyranny and Japanese internment camps during World War II.

Don't even go there. Just. Don't. These people have no idea what they are talking about.

One of the bills would have forced Gov. Tom Wolf to adhere to federal guidance in determining which businesses must shut down, rather than adopt his own.

What "federal guidance"? There is none. None. That is why governors are having to take such strong action now. It's a complete mess at the top. There hasn't been a consistent message since day one.

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The GOP is afraid that the difference between the places where the necessary steps to minimize the effects of Covid19 are being practiced, and the places where they aren't, will be so stark that the GOP will lose the ability to gerrymander their way to keeping hold of power in the next election so they're trying to lay the grounds for a disinformation campaign based on the difference disappearing when they force a premature end of the practices in some states.

And if you think that the American public would see through that, well, see the comments blaming the American failures to prepare to respond on China.

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Time will tell what the best approach is. Risks regardless which approach is taken.

Yes, but we can’t stay home forever, bills need to be played.

I assume those among Republicans pushing to open things back up are willing to accept the fallout should things go farther south, and they won't echo their Trump saying 'I don't take responsibility for that' and/or point fingers of blame at the usual 'others' the rightwing have demonized like Fauci, Hillary, Obama, CNN, etc.

You could fit this around on the Democrats, do they want to risk the chance of further going down the tubes losing votes and possibly losing in the next term? The longer they keep their boot on the next of the people begging to go back to work to take care of the families the worst Democrats are making it for themselves, that’s also a risk they have to take into consideration, and the longer they do this, the more it helps Trump. And the left wing liberals have idolized and protected Hillary and Obama and will overlook the failures of Dr. Fauci, and I’m not saying he’s a bad guy, but he has made mistakes and I accept it as a scientist especially with a new pandemic it will happen, but liberals in the far left put this man on a pedestal as if he is the almighty himself.

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Some of these Democrat governors are out of control.

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66% of new cases in New York are from people who have stayed at home. Time to investigate “outside”, “the office” and “the bar/restaurant” again.

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Sometimes, it might be better to split USA into two separate countries. Let the baskets play with their own guns and racism, and let them enjoy the delights of the virus, but let the other half live in peace.

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so what do liberals think about this? is this right, and just?

"In the last seven weeks, the NYPD has arrested and issued summonses for almost 400 people, mostly blacks and Latinos, for allegedly violating social distancing and other violations, newly released data shows."

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so what do liberals think about this? is this right, and just?

"In the last seven weeks, the NYPD has arrested and issued summonses for almost 400 people, mostly blacks and Latinos, for allegedly violating social distancing and other violations, newly released data shows."

This isn’t enough information to determine whether this is correct or just. We’d need to know whether white people are also violating social distancing at the same rate but not being arrested or summoned.

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what happens to white people is irrelevant. people of color are being adversely affected, thats all that matters. What is the liberal NY government going to do to immediately resolve this urgent issue that has been going on for months already?

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what happens to white people is irrelevant. people of color are being adversely affected, thats all that matters. 

Logic failure. If white people are also being arrested for doing the same thing, then it is just and correct. If who’re people are getting a pass, it’s unjust and incorrect.

You are playing the race card here.

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Coronavirus has declared war on women too as well as people of color.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly-coronavirus-special-edition/2020/04/29/covids-war-on-women-489076

"Even so, the pandemic has been different (and worse) for girls and women.

It’s true that more men are dying than women from Covid-19 around the world — but that’s not exactly cause for celebration."

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Coronavirus has declared war on women too as well as people of color.

Irrelevant to your question about whether minorities being arrested and summoned is correct and just.

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After this story was published on Thursday night, Mr. de Blasio cited it on Twitter, describing summonses and arrests as a tool for “saving lives.” But he added: “The disparity in the numbers does NOT reflect our values (edit: huh, what?) We HAVE TO do better and we WILL.”

Representative Hakeem Jeffries, a Brooklyn Democrat whose district is predominantly African-American, expressed concern in an interview about policing tactics that resembled the unfair practices of “stop and frisk.” That, combined with the illness, unemployment and hunger brought on by the pandemic for many residents, would be a “a toxic combination.”

“We can’t unleash a new era of overly aggressive policing of communities of color in the name of social distancing,” Mr. Jeffries said.

Lets get to arresting some white people, 39 of 40 arrested in Brooklyn were non white.

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Black: You still haven’t provided any evidence that white people are getting a pass, so it’s impossible to determine whether the arrests are just and correct.

Let me show you how it’s done:

The arrests of black and Hispanic residents, several of them filmed and posted online, occurred on the same balmy days that other photographs circulated showing police officers handing out masks to mostly white visitors at parks in Lower Manhattan, Williamsburg and Long Island City. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/nyregion/nypd-social-distancing-race-coronavirus.amp.html

So the answer to your question is yes, it is both unjust and incorrect. See how easy it would have been had you bothered to include examples of white people getting a pass instead of going off on a virtue-signaling faux outrage tirade?

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gop-in-power-grab-to-rein-in-dem-governors-on-virus-response

This entire article exists to imply that the "evil" GOP is trying to force the "good" liberal states to respond in a different (implication: better or correct) way to the virus.

But we find data from the liberal state of NY that its white leadership is arresting minorities at a 97.5% rate compared to a 2.5% rate for whites in Brooklyn. not good at all.

The police are going into neighborhoods of color, arresting hundreds of people, then claiming it as a tool to "save their lives"? Can you imagine how hard it already is to get a job as a minority person and now you have a criminal record too?

Those "evil" GOP states are not doing this, they are reopening and letting people have their freedom back.

Who is doing the "power grab" using the police force to arrest minorities, again?

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This entire article exists to imply that the "evil" GOP is trying to force the "good" liberal states to respond in a different (implication: better or correct) way to the virus.

What’s it like to see conspiracies everywhere and constantly feel like a victim of the media?

Who is doing the "power grab" using the police force to arrest minorities, again?

Not the people with the power already. It’s quite telling that you rail against playing the race cards when it’s Dems talking about race, but don’t hesitate to play it when you’re trying to defend republicans trying to grab power.

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no, I made my point very clearly. If a GOP run state was arresting only minorities and when questioned said they were just doing it to "save their lives" you would be going insane about that racist government/racist Orange Man.

Imagine if it were said that only minorities are being arrested because they are the only ones committing crimes? wow. total deflection here. Well, they must be arresting white people too, or something. yet data shows they arent.

must be an understandable reason, cause this is a liberal Dem state.

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huh? Im not talking about Repubs grabbing power. I am talking about Dems abusing it. by using data from a liberal state. that shows 97.5% arrest rate of minorities. in a neighborhood of color. where these people live and were targeted.

You just dont care, because its not your race card that you like to use.

It’s quite telling that you rail against playing the race cards when it’s Dems talking about race, but don’t hesitate to play it when you’re trying to defend republicans trying to grab power.

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so who is arresting these people if they are not the people with the power?

Not the people with the power already. 

DeBlasio and Cuomo and the police. who are in power and have the power to arrest for "social distancing" violations.

DeBlasio apologized for targeting minorities, said its not "our values" and we can and will do better. By do better does he mean arrest MORE minorities to save their lives? or arrest fewer and not save their lives?

Or is is the whole arresting people to "save their lives" not actually what is going on here at all?

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