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Geez... didn't take them long to resort back to the 'Doomsday' scenarios that in part lost them the election in November. Evidently, it's easier to resort to old policies of doom and gloom/fear tactics than to actually make an effort to move forward. No wonder the Republicans have become a meaningless and ineffectual party.

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Crushing debt? If politicians in America truly cared about such issues, they would have not allowed successive administrations to engage in spending programs that were devoid of reality. The simple fact of the matter is that America is spending too much money. Whether such spending is related to the war on terrorism or just sustaining the illusion of the "American way of life" is irrelevent. Sooner or later, something will have to give. Either there will have to be a decline in the overall standard of living, or taxation (in various forms) will have to be increased. Things cannot go on the way they have been.

At the same time, raising the seriousness of such issues is paramount to political suicide. As such, expect neither side of politics to do anything while Rome continues to burn.

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timorborder: "As such, expect neither side of politics to do anything while Rome continues to burn."

No kidding. If, and that's a big if, the Republicans were to gain office in the next term they would continue to spend the same if not more than Obama, PLUS give tax breaks to the rich. In their defense, they would say that they, "had no choice due to spending by the previous government". While that is certainly the case since the economy spiraled downward in the last presidency, my point is that while they proclaim Obama to do nothing but spending, they would do the exact same. Nothing changes that much, regardless of who is in office. This doomsday stuff is doing no favours to their party, either.

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Yes, when Obama's American defenders are nowhere to be seen it is time to worry.

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Can't see reference to "Doomsday" in any of the Republican quotes used.

I read warnings that this plan will bankrupt the country, and I have read the same warnings and concerns from all quarters left and right.

But a headline 'GOP predicts bankruptcy if Obama budget passed', just doesn't have the same lilt to it as this dreg, (though a heck of lot more accurate). Another article that once again shows how far in the tank they are for 'The One'.

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I guess this is the flip side of "We'll be greeted with flowers". Is there no one that doesn't speak in hyperbole?

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sailwind: Can't see reference to "Doomsday" in any of the Republican quotes used.

The right of journalists to play just as fast and loose and just as irresponsibly as they like with words has been clearly established, particularly when it comes to the wording of the headline. I am not sure if we are supposed to accept or disregard all the nuances of words like doomsday, or threat, or demand, or just be good and quiet little posters or what.

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The GOP indeed has lost it's meaning. They never come up with any solutions.

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"They never come up with any solutions."

Isn't whining classed as a solution? Maybe they can have a "War on the Economy"......their wars always seem to make things ship-shape.

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well, while taking up bad debt may be a good idea, its not! Really all they are trying to do is bribe banks into lending and lending to those who really shouldn't be lent to..... kind of one of the main reasons we are in the mess that we are in...

Oh, the bad debt may include credit cards too....

So, the title may be misleading and where the article goes wrong is that many many dems lately are yelling the same thing.

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Timorborder

Crushing debt? If politicians in America truly cared

Good post. Agree.

And I feel strangely compelled to add, that the "something" that "will give have to give" is taking place right now.

The financial and social disaster we are now undergoing will be much clearer in retrospect as it is an ongoing change. But by most economic indicators this is a depression, and not as politicians would have you believe, a recession. And what is most significantly different about this depression compared to the last is that it is world-wide, with only a very few countries that are as yet relatively unaffected, at least not directly at this point. I'm talking here about countries like Indonesia that have very large populations (i.e. equalling large domestic market), and manufacturing industries focused on mostly primary goods consumed mostly locally.

The globally economy ties the world together. When the financial system in America collapses completely it will cause the collapse of the entire global financial system. Which means if follow where the arrows point, that America /the world will have no way to reconstruct a functioning financial system by any means acceptable to humanity.

The historical proven solution has been for major powers to redivide the pie, i.e. by military means. WW2, by the way, was the main reason Western nations were able to end the Great Depression, and that (putting it far too simply I know) was the means by which the US became the superpower, the apex of global capitalism.

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smithinjapan: No kidding. If, and that's a big if, the Republicans were to gain office in the next term they would continue to spend the same if not more than Obama, PLUS give tax breaks to the rich. In their defense, they would say that they, "had no choice due to spending by the previous government". While that is certainly the case since the economy spiraled downward in the last presidency, my point is that while they proclaim Obama to do nothing but spending, they would do the exact same. Nothing changes that much, regardless of who is in office. This doomsday stuff is doing no favours to their party, either.

No, smith, you're wrong. It's all the Democrats fault.

TAKE THAT!

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teleprompter: Yes, when Obama's American defenders are nowhere to be seen it is time to worry.

No way, buddy. The Republicans are squarely to blame.

DEAL WITH IT!

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Nobody cares what the GOP thinks, at least not any real American. The Republicans are simply ramping up their pathetic scare tactics in the wake of having lost the election.

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Memo to the far right wing.....

You lost the election.

You caused great harm to our nation.

You stole our children future in the name of your old antiquated beliefs.

We need truth, not your lies.

Big business does not support the American people, big business supports big business.

You are lost and are not needed.

America fell for your lies for 8 years and see where it got us!

It is time for a change and you need to find yourself maybe you can reinvent yourselves into the new Whig Party.

Stop trying to hurt our nation and get on the team. Time for us to play ball or you never know, we maybe speaking Chinese soon.

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sailwind: "But a headline 'GOP predicts bankruptcy if Obama budget passed'..."

You're correct in that the actual word 'Doomsday' doesn't appear in any quotation, but your suggested alternative doesn't quite capture the, "the fast road to financial destruction” which Shelby did in fact say, now does it?

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SuperLib: "No, smith, you're wrong. It's all the Democrats fault. TAKE THAT!... No way, buddy. The Republicans are squarely to blame. DEAL WITH IT!"

I see you still haven't quite fixed that blown gasket yet. How about commenting on the article and the absolute meaninglessness of the GOP (and the fact that they are in-fighting and crumbling as a result)?

The GOP are out of control, with ZERO alternatives, and as I said before they would be doing the exact same thing and calling it necessity if they inherited bush's mess.

Ah well, at least you're not misquoting people today.

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You're correct in that the actual word 'Doomsday' doesn't appear in any quotation,

Then why the Headline?..... My thinking that the media is a little biased all this time was way out of line?

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sailwind: "Then why the Headline?..... My thinking that the media is a little biased all this time was way out of line?"

again... Please! As some other posters have stated on here, it's simply hyperbole, and as I said your suggestion of, "GOP predicts bankruptcy..." doesn't begin to cover even the quotations they mention in public (again, "the country's financial DESTRUCTION", etc.).

Media bias goes both ways... always has, always will. Don't get upset when it doesn't go the way you'd like it to.

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it's simply hyperbole,

True, the media can't be trusted anymore.

Don't get upset when it doesn't go the way you'd like it to.

True, always hated it when I thought it was 'objective'.

By the way Palin, Jindal, McCain,.......All Evil.

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The sky is falling!!!!!.......The sky is falling!!!!!

Isn't it wonderful. I'm just amazed how the republicans have finally gotten their voices. For 8 years they suffered with laringitis (sp) and wouldn't or couldn't say anything of substance except 'Oh yes mr. president.' But now they actually can talk.

This jibberish that they are talking is scaring them to death because his plans just might work and Obama might be in the right place for re-election.

Barack Obama is doing a fantastic job. < :-)

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smithinjapan: How about commenting on the article

Sure, I guess I'll be the first.

I do have concerns about the level of debt that Obama is taking on. It's a massive hole to climb out of. But to be honest with you I really don't know what the best answer is. People need to start working again now and they need money now and burying yourself tomorrow to protect yourself against a possible future tragedy doesn't make a lot of sense. But since I personally can't tell you if he's overspending or underspending I really don't have any real way to gauge if he's making a mistake or not. Like everyone else I'm just hoping that he's right....but if he's not....it could be a doomsday scenario.

The fact is that asking questions about such high levels of spending is healthy. There needs to be some way to keep things in check. To that extent I think it's good that Republicans are asking the questions. And even a lot of Democrats are asking questions as well, mostly in regards to his domestic programs. But for now I'm willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, probably because I trust him more than any Congressman from either party. The fact is that when a Congressman speaks I don't know if he's being honest or just thinking about his constituents or just thinking about his reelection. I don't have the same feeling for Obama because he's too new to the position and he's supposed to represent everyone.

I know in your politically dominated world you're mostly interested in beating down the opposition, but I can promise you that for moderate Americans we're interested in much more than that. As John Stewart recently said, this isn't a (bleeping) game. We're facing a serious, serious economic crisis that could lose an entire generation of wealth but all I see is more of the same: knee jerk political reactions, useless rhetoric, side taking, etc. Some people are addicted to politics, even to the point of self destruction. And you're taking the rest of us with you.

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Hey did you see the stockmarket today. Up 497 points.

Keep up the good work Obama and keep bringing these financial plans coming. < :-)

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I suspect the Republicans will try and give credit to Bush for this.....President Obama got handed a Republican mess and the Republicans are trying to blame him for what ever they can.

This is like an arsonist trying to say that the Fire Chief was the one that set the fire.

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SuperLib: "The fact is that asking questions about such high levels of spending is healthy. There needs to be some way to keep things in check. To that extent I think it's good that Republicans are asking the questions."

I agree, and in fact would say that asking questions in many cases is essential (and should have been done much more in the past administration and not only this one), but are they asking the questions because they truly want more time, etc., or simply because they see it as an opportunity to potentially score a few political points? Both sides are effective at doing that as well, as can be seen by the Dem's reaction to AIG bonuses.

Questions which raise doubt sorely for the sake of raising doubt and with no sound basis for doing so are not very good 'questions'.

JoeBigs: You know it! Up until only two weeks ago and since Obama's inagueration there were Republicans on here whining about how the stock market is exact proof that Obama is a failure and the country is being destroyed (doom and gloom, doom and gloom!), so you can bet now that the market is swinging up again those same people will say that either the market is no real reflection of the economy and political policies, or that bush's measures to improve the economy are starting to come into play (you can ask them WHAT measures, but to that they will simply sign off).

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smithinjapan: Questions which raise doubt sorely for the sake of raising doubt and with no sound basis for doing so are not very good 'questions'.

The alternative is worse, which is not allowing any questions to be raised, which turns into the default position when the word "Republican" or "Democrat" is mentioned. I don't hear people talking about the validity of the questions. They're just looking at the party and making a decision based on that alone. I include you in that group.

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"We're facing a serious, serious economic crisis that could lose an entire generation of wealth but all I see is more of the same: knee jerk political reactions, useless rhetoric, side taking, etc. Some people are addicted to politics, even to the point of self destruction. And you're taking the rest of us with you."

In a nutshell. Thank-you, Superlib.

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Well the religious right will be happy, anyway.

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