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Republican senators question immigration plan presented by Kushner

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It’s not a “plan” in the sense of getting actual legislation passed. It’s more of a grievance cry to the xenophobic base for the election.

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Family ties, family business, that's all it is.

Me personally thinks that he has no qualifications at all to be in this position.

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General John Kelly ex Chief of Staff raised major concerns over Jared Kushner and Ivanka presence in the WH and their uncontrolled influence on Trump policies.

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Anybody else note the irony of an unqualified “senior adviser,” who’s only in his position through nepotism, pushing a merit-based immigration system? 

https://reason.com/2019/04/25/jared-kushner-makes-the-case-for-merit-based-immigration/

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 Trump had zero experience in politics before running for president in 2016 and already the country is way better off than it was 2 years ago.

A lot of people disagree.

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Sry, meant to say whose father served over a year in federal prison...

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served over a year in federal prison

Kushner's father is the convicted felon. Father and son have joint business dealings. And the backing of the White House.

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The majority of them just want to escape poverty.

Did you take a survey? Personally interview the applicants?

Immigration laws should have been fixed years ago. Thanks, Dems and RINOS.

The Dems wanted to start the process of immigration reform in 2013, but republicans rejected that attempt.

That is not necessarily a bad thing. Trump had zero experience in politics before running for president in 2016 and already the country is way better off than it was 2 years ago.

It is if all you care about is money. It's far worse off if you care about democratic norms and decency.

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You know something is wrong when the senior adviser to the POTUS has zero experience in politics and served over a year in federal prison.

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There are also complaints that Trump staffers are campaigning for their Trump boss.

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So the USA now has a responsibility to other countries to refuse entry to their best people and encourage them to only send the worst ones for our taxes to support?

Erm, no. The question of whether it’s right to pick the best from developing countries is an idea which has been discussed on the left and the right. It also doesn’t follow that you then take in the hardest cases.

Some people are very easily triggered . No need to do a Ben Shapiro when I’m just discussing ideas.

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What’s wrong with merit based immigration? That’s exactly how it should be.

Define merit. Does it mean wealth, political leanings, sexuality, age, what?

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It’s more of a grievance cry to the xenophobic base for the election.

Aye. Which is why Trump identifies with people like Hungarian leaders and other demagogues who play up to their poorly educated base.

Why is education so maligned by the populist movement?

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I don’t follow...anyway, so what’s wrong with a merit based system for illegal aliens wanting to enter the US. Please just try a little bit and answer my question.

A merit based system makes sense to the host country. The question of whether picking the best, brightest and trained from poorer countries who desperately need them being the right thing to do is a different issue.

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The quality of liberal responses is seriously lacking now that “but Russia!” or “mueller is coming” can’t be worked into a response.

Have you noticed the topic?

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What's wrong with a merit-based system for choosing senior advisors for the president?

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The Republicans won't vote for anything that goes against their open-borders policy.

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Chip Star, Kushner is not accountable to the government only his father in law.

I'm well aware of this. Why doesn't the president use a merit based system for choosing senior advisors?

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Yes, because the Dems didn’t want to close the loopholes that have created this problem. They weren’t for ending catch and release, ending chain migration, ending the visa lottery program or birthright citizenship, so they rejected it.

Republicans didn't want to even start reforming immigration or they would have voted to begin it in 2013.

Hilarious. Republican = good; Democrat = bad.

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I don’t follow...anyway, so what’s wrong with a merit based system for illegal aliens wanting to enter the US. Please just try a little bit and answer my question.

Nothing is wrong with a merit based system. I've never been against it.

Anyway, what's wrong with a merit based system for choosing senior advisors to the president?

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Chip Star, Kushner is not accountable to the government only his father in law.

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I think immigration should be for people who have jobs waiting that will pay 200%+ of the going rate for the position, so more taxes will be collected and companies have a strong incentive to hire locally first. 

Can see your point but... if it's known that an immigrant can only get a job that pays twice the going rate, I imagine not a single local will apply for the job for less. Are American citizens worth less?

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They have been wanting an end to these loopholes since Mid 90’s. Don’t give me that and since Obama was in office when the Dems proposed it, there was nothing in the language of the bill of what mentioned before was even being considered or enforced.

What this says is that republicans wanted political points instead of beginning to reform immigration. This is a clear example of party over country. Republicans are pro open borders, which is evidenced by them opposing immigration reform twice in 2013. This also tells us their current outrage over immigration is wholly manufactured.

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This is all a moot point - the last six years of Republican actions have shown they will NEVER pass any legislation that threatens their open-borders policy.

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There needs to be incentives to hire local, retrain local, before going foreign. Isn't that how Japan does it?

But paying immigrants twice what a citizen can get wouldn't work. If I'm a citizen offered any position with any company under a law like that... pay negotiations would start with... "I think it's a good offer. Double it." And those companies that are violating existing law would still violate the law. Maybe some sort of registry that companies had to use to select from available and suitable applicants, with a requirement to show the job had been advertised to locals first. It'd be a hell a lot of bureaucracy though.

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Just bitterness and complaining not about policy or decisions but just about people you don’t like. If you don’t like Kushner or his plan, where is the Dem plan?

Ihhhh . . . The president sets foreign policy, so you've just demonstrated that the quality of conservative comments remain subpar.

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Can see your point but... if it's known that an immigrant can only get a job that pays twice the going rate, I imagine not a single local will apply for the job for less. Are American citizens worth less?

Legal immigrants to the USA come when they have jobs waiting or have savings and skills to get a position. In my field, lots of legal immigrants come, usually from Asia, and get a company to sponsor their work VISA. There are laws which say they have to be paid the same as other workers, but in jobs where 60-80%+ are foreign workers who were extremely deceptive on their CVs, the pay is always less than an American would accept. The companies are violating existing US law.

There needs to be incentives to hire local, retrain local, before going foreign. Isn't that how Japan does it?

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Dems want open borders to supply new voters for a future Socialist America

Someone doesn't know who is allowed to vote in the US.

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Wow, just wow. Might be 3 on-topic comments above.

Advisor to the President presents an opening list of ideas around immigration to his party for comments and feedback. Isn't that they way politics is supposed to work?

Then the Reps will discuss it with the guys across the chamber, hear lots of outrage for not including DACA. They will leave that out for a long time as is it going to be used for the final "give" so Dems can agree.

An overview that the plan is trying to stress medit-based immigration is just an overview.

The article doesn't say much more.

I think immigration should be for people who have jobs waiting that will pay 200%+ of the going rate for the position, so more taxes will be collected and companies have a strong incentive to hire locally first. Using immigration for cheap labor is a problem. It screws over the people here already doing the work.

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Someone doesn't know who is allowed to vote in the US.

Someone doesn’t know that Dems have been playing the long game since Teddy Kennedy’s 60’s era immigration reform measures. The very same laws that led to the Reagan era crisis of illegals and the very same crisis that became abundantly clear a mere 20 years later.

Don’t worry- America will in the long run become the ever increasingly bifurcated super rich / super poor Socialist paradise that the Dems have been striving for since Progressives began militating for it more than a century ago. America’s largest cities are on the leading edge - huge numbers of the homeless, a struggling and polarized middle, with a cadre of super wealthy at the top constantly seeking to devise solutions for the problems their previous solutions created.

Socialism has been proven over history to be incompatible with basic human nature but the “experts” never tire of trying to control the lives of others. ‘Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.’

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Define merit. Does it mean wealth, political leanings, sexuality, age, what?

Those are more liberal identity politics attributes.

Skill sets, what you can offer the country, what for an asset you can be, the desire to work hard, carry yourself, not being a burden on the taxpayer, or even joining the armed services for a few years, complete your education.

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The topic never mattered before. Everything was simply directed back into the direction of Russia or Mueller.

Now that there is no choice but to have discussion about policies and solutions, I find the dialogue lacking.

What is wrong with a merit based immigration system? Why can’t we get rid of chain migration? Why would a Republican immigration solution have the protections for DACA they Collins is looking for? That was a Dem program they can protect those illegally admitted under it.

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Republicans didn't want to even start reforming immigration or they would have voted to begin it in 2013.

They have been wanting an end to these loopholes since Mid 90’s. Don’t give me that and since Obama was in office when the Dems proposed it, there was nothing in the language of the bill of what mentioned before was even being considered or enforced.

Nothing is wrong with a merit based system. I've never been against it.

Great!

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Some people are very easily triggered . No need to do a Ben Shapiro when I’m just discussing ideas.

Wish he’d run for President.

Kushner won a positive reception for his proposal last week from about a dozen of the Senate's more conservative Republicans. It features a bolstering of security measures, such as improved screening at southwest border ports of entry, and an increased preference for immigrants with strong job skills over relatives of migrants already in the U.S.

Yup, can’t argue with that, seems reasonable and logical to me.

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The quality of liberal responses is seriously lacking now that “but Russia!” or “mueller is coming” can’t be worked into a response.

Just bitterness and complaining not about policy or decisions but just about people you don’t like. If you don’t like Kushner or his plan, where is the Dem plan?

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So the USA now has a responsibility to other countries to refuse entry to their best people and encourage them to only send the worst ones for our taxes to support?

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Dems want open borders to supply new voters for a future Socialist America - which is not doubt a matter of decades from now. Too many Republicans want cheap labor regardless of its current impact on citizens on the low end of the wage scale and whether or not it destroys our Constitutional form of government. They are incapable of putting the countries interests over their ideological goals.

A good percentage of Americans want a regularized immigration system similar to other first world nations that is centered on what’s best for their countries and social stability.

America will get more and more homeless living on the streets of its major cities like the disaster in San Francisco - a Third World living within a First World nation. Throw in a crippling national and city debt crisis and you’re got an ungovernable mess. That’s America’s future.

The Democrats will ultimately get their open borders - it’s practically open already. But will have a disaster on its hands with no ability to pay for the Socialism it thinks could deal with it.

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What's wrong with a merit-based system for choosing senior advisors for the president?

I don’t follow...anyway, so what’s wrong with a merit based system for illegal aliens wanting to enter the US. Please just try a little bit and answer my question.

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Anybody else note the irony of an unqualified “senior adviser,” who’s only in his position through nepotism, pushing a merit-based immigration system? 

What’s wrong with merit based immigration? That’s exactly how it should be.

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Headline misleading. ONE senator questioned one part of it. Considering that one person is actually Susan Collins, few care. Oh and a “republican official” (who?) claims some (who?) weren’t impressed.

A dozen gave positive responses per the article.

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The Dems wanted to start the process of immigration reform in 2013, but republicans rejected that attempt.

Yes, because the Dems didn’t want to close the loopholes that have created this problem. They weren’t for ending catch and release, ending chain migration, ending the visa lottery program or birthright citizenship, so they rejected it.

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Central American migrants seeking asylum to enter the U.S. Growing numbers of them have been trying to get asylum status in recent years.

The majority of them just want to escape poverty.

Immigration laws should have been fixed years ago. Thanks, Dems and RINOS.

an unqualified “senior adviser,”

Me personally thinks that he has no qualifications at all to be in this position.

I'll give you that there are people more qualified for the job than Kushner.

If enough voters feel this is intolerable, they'll vote Trump out. Not likely.

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You know something is wrong when the senior adviser to the POTUS has zero experience in politics 

That is not necessarily a bad thing. Trump had zero experience in politics before running for president in 2016 and already the country is way better off than it was 2 years ago.

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