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Guantanamo prisoners protest over women guards

Too funny!

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These Muslim prisoners would welcome women as sex slaves but not as guards. Stop spoiling them, they are prisoners.

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The same "Bleeding Heart Liberals" will say remove the woman and also claim woman equality on other issues.

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The same "Bleeding Heart Liberals" will say remove the woman and also claim woman equality on other issues.

Tolerance for Sharia law loving jihadi's is a little bit higher up on the political correctness scale than women at the moment.

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Women escorting make them ineligible to go to heaven when they die according to their law (funny or stupid)....

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I say start serving pork and lard in every delicious meal they still get. Deep fried chicken (fried in lard), pork chops for lunch, bacon for breakfast.... oh man those guys eat better than I do!

2nd of all. They've lost their rights of religious freedom once they violated others rights to religious freedom. Take away someone elses rights you lose yours. Let them understand the clear and hard way. Remember they also get the free healthcare that even regular US citizens can't get...

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@HonestDictator Alol. Check out what has been used in the past with these idiots: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6876549/ns/us_news-security/t/sex-used-break-muslim-prisoners-book-says/#.VEnjxxbvKUk.

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Who cares they have no rights now, they should have no religious freedom they gave up their freedom when they went feral and became terroists.

In fact whey are these scum bags even still breathing

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I cannot help wondering what countries the writers of previous countries are from. It seems apparent that they think it is normal to consider these prisoners are guilty until proven otherwise. It also seems apparent that none of them have any tolerance for any religion other than their own.

Remember that these people have probably been kidnapped from another country. If they were captured in battle, they should have the rights of a prisoner of war.

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If they were captured in battle, they should have the rights of a prisoner of war.

Only if the flag they battled under is also a signatory of the Geneva Convention; otherwise, there's no obligation.

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"Prisoners designated by the government as “high-value detainees” because of their allegedly significant involvement in terrorism recently began refusing to meet with defense lawyers appointed by the Pentagon to defend them against war crimes charges unless the military agrees to use only men to escort them to meetings"

Let 'em refuse to meet with the defense lawyers. Their loss.

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gaijintraveller what on earth makes you think we have any religion?

Are you a human rights activist or a sympathiser?

These people are scum tried or not, they do not deserve any freedom of anything.

Sometimes a trial is merely a formality.

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I wonder how many of their prisoners had/have the rights for demands.

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In that case, I'd like to see the whole prison run from top to bottom by women.

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Some prisoners in. . . center have launched a protest against what they consider the religiously offensive use of female guards to move them around the U.S. base in Cuba . . .

Tough cookies, boys. Time you learned to deal with the fact that you're, well, prisoners, and your religion-justified asshat sexism is just that.

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@Scipanthiest, if that is their interrogation techniques I say I'm all for it. Could be much worse imo. In order to break a spy one has to get to them on an emotional level. Those "tactics" appear to hit the right nerves especially with religious fanatics like these. And considering most if not all these guys are not US citizens so therefore do not have "constitutional rights" provided by the US constitution (for US citizens) like they're claiming.

2nd of all they're really not on US land. We're just using it with Cuba's permission from a long ago agreement. And rights of a POW only go so far... these men are just so twisted up with Islamic indoctrination they won't understand just how sick they are until they're dead and find themselves on the wrong side of the afterlife.

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And considering most if not all these guys are not US citizens so therefore do not have "constitutional rights" provided by the US constitution (for US citizens) like they're claiming.

Pretty disgusting line of thought.

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Aww, sorry I hurt your PC feelings. Facts are, these guys aren't US citizens and are in Gitmo for pretty much participating and instigating in terrorist and war attacks against the citizens of the US.

I don't think most of them even have had US passports or greencards in the first place. Hence, they're not US citizens. So uh, the US constitution doesn't apply to them. Can you wrap your head around that?

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So uh, the US constitution doesn't apply to them. Can you wrap your head around that?

Oh, it's not that I didn't understand when you said it the first time. I knew exactly what you were saying. I just think it's a disgusting line of thought. There are rules of war for how enemy combatants should be treated, and the US has its own laws for how criminals should be treated. Your line of thinking just brings your country down to the level of the people they claim to detest, which makes them no better than the people they detest.

Or in other words, while they may be your enemy, and they may not treat you like human beings if you are captured, do you really want to sink down to their level? Well, your comment above says that you do. And that's a pretty disgusting line of thought.

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Rules of war are for those who follow and abide by the Geneva convention. I don't know if you remember a comment I made earlier about what is going to happen that "civilized" countries are going to become more vicious towards a vicious enemy? Human rights and upholding dignity will only apply to those who choose to abide by it in the first place?

I've always said that people will only get as much respect and consideration as they give. We've tried it the "proper" and "civilized" way and they responded with exactly the opposite. It has been shown that they refuse the respect and consideration and abuse it because they saw it as "weakness" by the "enemy". So the nice little happy "Lets show that we're better than our enemy" has shown its results. They're stuck in their ways, refuse to improve and bring themselves up out of their own pit so we're going to go down into that pit to eliminate them. This is reality*. This is human nature. People can't change people that don't choose to change on their own.

In order to survive and maintain our current standards all civilized countries have determined these Islamists aren't worth extending much more respect and consideration once the candle gets burned down to its wick. And more and more candles are being burnt down to it's wick if you haven't noticed.

Be disgusted all you want, but even you can't change people that don't want to change even if their ways continually harm others. I'm just accepting that fact, you apparently need a lot more time to figure that out.

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Be disgusted all you want, but even you can't change people that don't want to change even if their ways continually harm others. I'm just accepting that fact, you apparently need a lot more time to figure that out.

Oh no, it's something I understand well. I just think it's disgusting to come down to their level. You end up no better than they are. You apparently need a lot more time to figure that out.

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You can think that all you want but what is the point of keeping a higher standard that results in you losing your life or becoming oppressed by a violent oppenent? Poor peace-loving Ghandi was assassinated by another Hindu whose reasoning was, "What good is non-violent protests while they're using this peaceful inaction to violently massacre us?"

Even you admitted the extremists will not abide to "better" standards with their prisoners according to the Geneva convention. Believe it or not the fact the prisoners at Gitmo are still ALIVE and can still eat their halal food and are not being forced to convert from Islam or die shows in spite of the haram treatment of female guards working there shows that they've got it leagues better than the people being held by the Islamists.

So when it comes to the wire with your own life and freedom on the line are you going to go all Buddha and lie down for the hungry tiger to eat you just to maintain your dignity? Or are you going to do what it takes for you to survive and prevent extremist ideology from wiping you out their way?

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what is the point of keeping a higher standard that results in you losing your life or becoming oppressed by a violent oppenent?

Because if you lose your humanity along the way, they win. And they're willing to die for their cause.

Poor peace-loving Ghandi was assassinated by another Hindu whose reasoning was, "What good is non-violent protests while they're using this peaceful inaction to violently massacre us?"

And he led his country to independence. He'll likely be remembered for hundreds, if not thousands of years. He may be dead, yet he still lives on.

So when it comes to the wire with your own life and freedom on the line are you going to go all Buddha and lie down for the hungry tiger to eat you just to maintain your dignity?

Yes, because if you sacrifice your humanity in the defense of your freedom, then what are you fighting to protect?

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Ghandi was a great man, but times have changed and things run much differently than the past. Do you even know why the assassin shot Ghandi? Funny that it had to do with Islam. It appeared in that man's perspective that Ghandi was validating submission to Islam by praying at a mosque.

Because if you lose your humanity along the way, they win. And they're willing to die for their cause.

And many people are willing to die for our cause too if you haven't noticed. One aspect of humanity is survival. You're not willing to die for your cause. You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk when it's staring you in the face? Unlike the Islamists, many western countries are fighting them to protect you, and me, and every other democratic society. And believe it or not they seem to be keeping their humanity, (and ours) just fine.

I know I would become a monster if I had to in order to protect those I love and care for. The only time one's humanity would be lost is when they start randomly picking off innocent people just for the heck of it. Every soldier in our military is doing exactly what your crying about here and yet many still retain their humanity, and still suffer the after affects as well mentally. And it's because in spite of it all, they have something to protect.

What are we fighting to protect? Remember somebody you don't even know is fighting to protect you, your ability to even post whatever you believe on this site, your ability to walk into a grocery store, a restaurant, a decent job, and not have to worry about running into a group of Islamists kidnapping you on your own street. Nobody is sacrificing their humanity to keep their freedom. They're just becoming more adept at killing off a threat when necessary and then helping those necessarily in need the next. If the Islamists packed their bags and stopped out of the blue and decided it isn't worth killing and oppressing others, many countries wouldn't be sending their militaries over to deal with them now would they? Gitmo would be pretty darned empty now wouldn't it?

Glad your not in charge of defense for your country. Many countries governments seem to get the picture, and it keeps getting clearer every day for them as these situations keep going on.

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You're not willing to die for your cause.

I haven't even stated my cause, much less whether or not I would die for it. But you said this:

what is the point of keeping a higher standard that results in you losing your life or becoming oppressed by a violent oppenent?

So it sounds like if anyone is unwilling to die for their cause, it's you.

I know I would become a monster if I had to in order to protect those I love and care for.

I know you would. The original comments I pointed out as being disgusting prove that without a doubt.

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Yeah, you're the type to believe in misguided compassion. Hence you completely missed the point I was making that many people would do something extremely drastic to protect others that are important to them. There can be no justice without compassion and there can be no compassion with out justice. Knowing when to show compassion and when give straight justice as consequences to violent actions to is a big key you need to understand.

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Yeah, you're the type to believe in misguided compassion.

Not at all. I believe in treating your prisoners with the same respect whether they are citizens of your country or not, because doing otherwise just brings you to their level. That's not compassion - I'm ok with the idea of executing them if that is the sentence given, but while they are prisoners they shouldn't be treated like dogs. That's what they would do.

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And as I said, they're already being treated MUCH MUCH better than they could be. So whats you're beef?

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My 'beef' is with the idea that they don't deserve the same rights as American prisoners, simply because they aren't America.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Boy are you on a cloud. Let me emphasize their situation. They are foreign national aggressors, not a local drug dealer, pimp, or Mafioso committing crimes on US soil. These are people who want to commit acts of WAR against the US and its citizens. Do you really understand what that means? They're not protected by the US constitution because they're not US citizens no matter how much you wanna try and extend they're nationality. They are protected by the Geneva convention, not the US constitution.

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Yes, I understand that is your line of thought - you were quite clear about it at the start. And as I said, it's a pretty disgusting line of thought.

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You're advocating that a person who is a soldier fighting a "war" for a religious system of oppression (it would be a lot easier if it was just a nationality cause but it isn't, even the Nazi's fought for Germany) to be treated the same as some random serial rapist, gang member etc. Last I checked US prisoners didn't have access to military equipment (oh look a Crip driving a tank! And a Blood using grenades and IEDs attacking an embassy!) attacking various nations officially organized military and focused on waging war against it. "Normal" criminals in prisons in those countries don't do that. (except the really crazy drug cartels in Mexico). When a group of people are dedicated to committing acts of war it is against that country, their government, and their citizens as a whole. Its on a completely different level than some person convicted of murder rotting in a jail cell.

Be disgusted all you want, but you're out in lala land, and its quite obvious many governments that are fighting these people don't equate them to their local criminal element and don't extend the same "rights" you believe they should have. There is a big difference between a countries rules for war and their laws for basic criminal activity.

It's like comparing a POW captured on foreign soil carrying an AK47 shooting at a group of legitimate federally funded soldiers with his own personal organization backing him up with military grade weapons, and a gang banger in jail for doing a drive in a ghetto.

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Be disgusted all you want

I will, because it's quite disgusting. If you have a base-level on how rapists, murderers and other criminals should be treated when they are of your own citizenship, this should be extended to all people, regardless of citizenship. Americans are not a superior race, and treating other people as lesser simply because they are not American, goes against everything I was raised to believe America stood for.

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