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Gunman, 2 hostages killed as police storm Sydney cafe

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He should have been deported long ago.

"When in Rome, Do as the Romans"(or go back to your home country).

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I'm glad that the terrorist is dead.

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Monis is reported by several outlets as being a refugee, just like the imams who incited the Danish cartoonist violence. Facts are so often the enemy of political correctness, arent they.

"His ideology is just so strong and so powerful"

Footnote: by "ideology" he means "religion."

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@That guy:

Storm the building on the basis of a bang....which wasn't a bomb....and which was WHAT exactly? And two dead.

I guess you should read the news item again before commenting. They entered becasue they heard gunshots. So probably the gunman started executing people, which is a very damn good reason to storm the place and kill him.

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Saddened to wake to the news that 2 hostages have been killed. And saddened to see how the face of Australia is changing. It is not the same place I was born and raised in.

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well done to the police involved in a difficult situation.... not so well done to the parasitic media and politicians who milked all the 'terror' and 'fear' they could out of the event...

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@JeffLee

Monis is reported by several outlets as being a refugee, just like the imams who incited the Danish cartoonist violence. Facts are so often the enemy of political correctness, arent they.

He was a political refugee, who came over from Iran in 1996. He was on bail on a charge of being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife, along with FIFTY counts of sexual assault. How this monster was let out on bail is obviously something that will need to be addressed - and serious changes will need to be made.

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@ That Guy - very easy to be an armchair critic. The commandos did an outstanding job under incredible danger. Without them the death toll would have been far greater. The terrorist had already started shooting the hostages when they stormed in.

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Rest in Peace to the two innocent victims of this awful terrorist. Just hope the others pull through. The police and authorities should be praised for handling an extremely dangerous situation in the best way they could. Th cowardly eIranian terrorist had a long history of extreme violence - particularly against women.

It is now up to the Islamic community in Australia to - as a person - renounce this evil "leader" and everything he stood for. Disturbingly, he was rather popular and had 14,000 facebook "friends"...

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Glad they shot him instead of trying to "understand his motives" etc....

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It's so sad to see Australia becoming yet another Islamic extremist's target. Australia has become a multi-cultural boiling pot over the last twenty years or so due to the open immigration policy. Many large Islamic communities have popped up in many areas of Australia and they are making many demands on the Australian government, citizens and corporations to make changes to Australian culture to accommodate their religion. And, the saddest part is, the government is listening to them and changing legislations to accommodate them. Australia is not, was not and never will be a Muslim nation and the Australian government needs to start taking a hard stand against Muslim extremist immigrants and start sending them back to their dust bowls for the slightest indescreation. The reason these people leave their homelands is to find a better life in a better country, but they bring all their crap with them and complain that their new country doesn't support them. If they don't like it they should just leave! I live in Japan, but don't expect to be served Aussie meat pies and kangaroo steaks.

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Seven months later, police charged Monis' girlfriend, Amirah Droudis, with the murder, and he was charged as an accessory before and after the fact. Both were quickly released on bail.

This lowlife should have been locked up a long time ago. Police did as well as they could given the situation, but this should have never happened in the first place.

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No. One of them wrestled for the weapon, and unfortunately lost. The perp was mad that people were able to get away, and screamed that he would have "an eye for an eye". After that, it's no surprise to me that the police were forced to rush the site.

http://www.news.com.au/national/martin-place-cafe-siege-police-storm-cafe-and-kill-gunman-sheik-man-haron-monis/story-fncynjr2-1227157498633

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Pandabelle: Interesting how this situation is "TERROR IN SYDNEY" while the mass murder of 6 in PA is "Ho hum, another mass shooting in the US".

If this had taken place in a Lindt cafe in Times Square in NYC I think the media response would have been the same or greater.

On the other hand, if there had been any competing news, the Sydney cafe incident wouldn't have been at top of Google News headlines for a couple of days (so far). The other news item would have been at the top.

There's only 24M people in Australia! Less than the population of California or Texas!

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Yet ANOTHER FAILURE of the " Justice " system.

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Islamic terrorist is the biggest threat of world peace and world civilization in present era. All nations in the world should be more aware about this poison.

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My condolences for the victims' families, especially the ones' who were killed. I'm glad police killed the guy. It will provide some closure for the victims and their families, and it will save money in the long run. I do have some issues:

How did the two victims die? Were they caught in the crossfire or were they murdered by the terrorist? We may never know, but I wish that didn't happen.

How was this monster allowed on bail for being associated with a murder charge? That should have never happened. Hopefully the justice system in Australia looks at itself and changes the way murder charges and bail are handled.

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Unfortunate he wasn't taken alive to show that he was just a guy who was going to jail with nothing to lose and mental problems. Now there will be a backlash, helped along by media drivel by the Telegraph and co..

If this guy was known to have mental problems, 40 sexual assault charges and threats, why was he released on bail? That's the real issue here.

2 people - 1 at work the other just wanting a coffee before work are dead, f* that guy

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m6bob: As an aside, perhaps the US authorities can learn from the Aussies?

Learn what?

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Too bad that not all got out alive.

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His Lawyer described him as damaged goods, he was on bail for the stabbing and setting alight his ex, and was also facing over 40 sexual assault charges. And was found guilty of sending offensive letters to families who had lost members fighting in Afganistan. Welcome to Australia, thanks for coming.

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So how do you denounce a man's motives when you don't know what they are? Even a murderous loon might have one point of sense under his turban.

You are trying to sound all clever, but you don't even know that turbans are worn by Sikhs, not Muslims....

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What IS with people taking selfies? Unbelieveable. Hmm.

ALthough I am not condoning the police for their actions, I don't know what was happening at the moment they decided to go in, there has to be an investigation as to why they used the tactic they did.

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Glad to see one less nutter out their speeding his hate. I am sorry to hear about the other two hostages that didn't make it, its not going to be a pleasant or happy Christmas for their families.

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The Australian media was also very professional in reporting the story without over-sensationalizing as would have been the case if the incident had been in the U.S.

Not so, there have been many cases where the US police have waited patiently until all resources were exhausted. Have you ever seen those high speed chases on CA highways and the police tend to block off traffic, and keep innocent drivers off the roads so that some loon can keep driving like a mad man so that they can get them to a less populated area and then stop them.

Don't just jump on the "social media bandwagon" and think that US cops shoot first and ask questions later.

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That's it! I'm not ever going out to a cafe, ever, ever. If there's no peace in Australia, what with the kangaroos and fuzzy koalas, then where can one find peace?

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appropriate tactics ? one gunman with a pump action and 7 hit 3 dead including the gunman?

if the scenario reported is correct a flashbang went off first- not many people are going to get one shot off right away after a flashbang.

a pump action also is not quick firing- so i think i will wait to see who the rounds came from first before declaring this a success.

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Monis has long been on officials’ radar.

He was later charged with being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife. Earlier this year, he was charged with the sexual assault of a woman in 2002. He has been out on bail on the charges.

I guess his mail and phone conversations were monitored too.

So much for the effectiveness of Big Brother watching!

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See my link above - they are already denouncing him.

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IThey did do a good job, but when we are talking about terrorist.......it was always going to end this way.

They didn't just kill him, but they treated it like textbook hostage situation. They have seen him pacing back and forward and could of got a head shot 100%......The sniper.

I think they should add remote bugs / bees and moths, into their arsenal.... Along with a jamming device. They could of flown that bee in there and looked up so close, even landed on the device "if there was 1" in there. So the sniper could of killed him the second they new.

I take it they didn't shoot him because they thought he had explosives rigged up....Or on him. If so the snipers could tell by looking at him. A jamming device will jam electronics / trigger .If it was manual .....A shot in the head would of stopped that anyway. If he was holding down on the trigger...NO.

Not 2 sure why they didn't. I take it they didn't have eye's in there like them remote bees can do, so that must be why. They clearly don't have jamming devices 2.

They need a up grade to match this terrorist threat.

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My condolences to the families of the two killed, and my sympathy to all the hostages and their families who had to experience this horrible event directly.

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Don't just jump on the "social media bandwagon" and think that US cops shoot first and ask questions later.

Um... you do know there were a couple of shoot first and ask questions later high profile incidents in the States recently?

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Interesting how this situation is "TERROR IN SYDNEY" while the mass murder of 6 in PA is "Ho hum, another mass shooting in the US".

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I lived in Sydney years ago and I watch all of this siege on TV, listened to every media event and I am very impressed by the professional way in which the Australian authorities handled this. The resulting casualties was the result of the action of this criminal Haron and nobody else. My thoughts are with the 2 hostages whom I'm sure were shot by criminal Haron so the troops have to move in to prevent more carnage. I'm also impressed by the Australian people for the #Illridewith you campaign to prevent further problems. As an aside, perhaps the US authorities can learn from the Aussies?

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According Aussie media, that gun man was an Iranian refugee settled in Sydney in 1996. Recently another Afghanistan refugee grown up in Melbourne tried to stab policeman was shot dead too.

In my humble knowledge, most refugees in Australia, Canada, UK, US and Japan will be very hard to get the job in those nations. Most likely they will survive with tax payers hand outs. They have been fed, clothed and accommodated by their adopted nations.

My question to Aussie tax payers and foreign expatiates is Why do law abiding Aussie residents and citizens have to risk their lives for welcoming and allowing them to live in tolerant, peaceful and civilized society?

The hands feeding to the refugee mouths were badly wounded by terrible bite. Not all refugees are terrorists. However most terrorists are refugees settled in western nations.

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So much for " Safety Australia ".

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It was a nutbag with a criminal history.

@ smithinjapan: I agree it is a nutbag with a criminal history, but he wasn't waiving a flag that said that. He was expressing his beliefs in what he felt was justifying his actions. Also, there have been several cases in the USA of these types of people, who have professed muslim ties, and have gone on killing sprees in the USA 2014 (during the summer of 2014). In one case a Muhammad Brown told investigators that one of his killings (out of a total of 4) was a “just kill.” The devout Islamic adherent proclaimed: “My mission is vengeance. For the lives, millions of lives are lost every day," he quoted.

But, you never really heard about this guy in the US press (unless you want to bash Fox News) because of a few factors like him being a Black American, and an Islamic convert and it just didn't fit the narrative. There are other cases of these so called "Lone Wolf" type stabbings and killings in the USA, and they don't get they coverage in the press.

Yes the US press can oversensationalize things somewhat, but what is worse is when they just don't report the news openly instead of trying to drive some type of agenda. Also, looking at some of the comments on the news reporting on this incident in the UK, they British press did as much as possible to not bring up his religious affiliation in order to be as "PC" as possible.

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I was counting on to read about why the two victims got shot... either they did heroic things or they were just on the way. Praise the police dept. I salute!

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the US media sometimes over-sensationalize the story

sounds like a Mea (or Nostra?) Culpa, bass

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I was very impressed at how skillfully the Australian police handled the hostage crisis using appropriate tactics, as opposed to over-the-top, combat-grade force as would have been the case in the U.S. Plus, they very competently navigated their interactions with the media.

The Australian media was also very professional in reporting the story without over-sensationalizing as would have been the case if the incident had been in the U.S.

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Um... you do know there were a couple of shoot first and ask questions later high profile incidents in the States recently?

Yes I do. But in one of those cases a Grand Jury has said that the cop shot in self defense. Also, you do realize that after that case, a city burned and the police stood by and did not try to stop the looting.

If the Aussie police would have had a clear shot and made sure that this guy was alone and not part of some larget plot, then I am sure that they would have taken the shot a lot earlier. But, I believe that since he flew up a certain religious flag, the police were concerned about the "optics" of the situation and didn't want to make themselves look bad if they had gone in quicker. Just look at some of the reporting and how they kept dancing around the elephant in the room, that the man was from a certain religious belief.

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Hopefully, this event will bring about changes to the Australian immigration policy and about how much Islamic crap is tolerated by non-Muslim country. I eat pork, drink beer and respect women! I guess that counts me out from ever living ina Muslim nation!

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Anytime terrorist do this, its only going to end in 1 way...The way i said it would 5 + hours before it ended.

Did he ask for a ISIS flag?.....YES. So what does that mean?

They had a clear shot many times, and had witness saying what they seen him holding / had on him from "inside there".

3 hours into it, i said they should add remote bees, moths, fly's, into their arsenal.... Along with a jamming device. That was less then 10 min after hearing about what was going on 2.

They could of flown that bee or fly in there and looked at everything going on.......Even landed on the device "if there was 1" in there. So the sniper could of killed him the second they new.

I take it they didn't shoot him because they thought he had explosives rigged up....Or on him. If so the snipers could tell by looking at him. A jamming device will jam electronics / trigger .If it was manual .....A shot in the head would of stopped that anyway. If he was holding down on the trigger...NO.

Not 2 sure why they didn't shoot him. I take it they didn't have eye's in there like them remote bees can do, so that must be why. They clearly don't have jamming devices 2.

They need a up grade to match this terrorist threat.

At the end of the day the people fleeing out at different parts of the terrorist attack......would of known what he had.

Yes i said terrorist attack. The ISIS said to lone wolf people to stage these attacks, and did he ask for there flag? Yes it 100% was a terrorist attack.

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You sound as mentally unhinged as the gunman. What religion accounts for your nuttery?

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Sad news but overreactions.

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Just look at some of the reporting and how they kept dancing around the elephant in the room, that the man was from a certain religious belief.

Perhaps because the guy's religion is, despite his very best efforts, secondary.

Except for bigots, whom ordinary Aussies neutered with #illridewithyou

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The Australian media was also very professional in reporting the story without over-sensationalizing as would have been the case if the incident had been in the U.S.

One main reason for that is because Australia didn't have random attacks of terrorism yet, but they are increasing with more frequency and being part of the main coalition partner of the U.S. as with the UK, Austraila is a big target for ISIS and Al Qaida and its affiliates and when that happens, you will hear more and more news coverage of these incidents happening on the news.

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Was very sad to hear of the attack and in particular the loss of two innocent lives. I hope the injured and those who have suffered trauma from this, as well as the nation, recover quickly.

Alphaape: " Just look at some of the reporting and how they kept dancing around the elephant in the room, that the man was from a certain religious belief."

The only people who see an 'obvious elephant in the room' are those who say there's an elephant when one does not exist. You defend the American media's sensationalizing of similar events, which happen much more, by saying police and the media were just dancing around the religious element, when in reality it could full well be just that it was not as much of an issue as people like yourselves automatically make it. It was a nutbag with a criminal history.

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The Australian media was also very professional in reporting the story without over-sensationalizing as would have been the case if the incident had been in the U.S.

The reason why the US media sometimes over-sensationalize the story is because for one, we have more news networks on TV and second, we have had more attacks on our soil than the Aussies, but with growing frequency, radical Islam is spreading to Australia and since Australia like the UK is a staunch ally of the US coalition, you will definitely see more attacks and see them spike and then you will hear the Australian media report more of these attacks as they increase and if Austalia takes a soft-handed approach to radical Islam like our President, the country will have a difficult time dealing with radical fascist terrorism.

As an aside, perhaps the US authorities can learn from the Aussies?

I somehow seriously doubt that.

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You are trying to sound all clever, but you don't even know that turbans are worn by Sikhs, not Muslims....

@onagagamo If you look for pictures of Man Haron Monis you can see him wearing something white on his head in most pics. If that is not a turban, then what is it?

Perhaps your confusion is from the fact that while Muslims are not required to wear turbans, Sikhs are? In other words, all Sikhs wear turbans. A lot of Muslim men wear turbans, but not all.

Now, you were saying something about trying to sound all clever....

No. Don't apologize or admit error. There is no need. I cannot even express condolences to the victims without getting negative votes at this point. The truth be damned, because by God, I am the villain now, and if you kick at me, the mob will cheer.

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I guess you should read the news item again before commenting.

@papigiulio Tell you what. There are these features known as "cut and paste" and "quote". It looks like this:

A loud bang rang out, several hostages ran from the building and police swooped in amid heavy gunfire, shouts and flashes. A police bomb disposal robot also was sent into the building, but no explosives were found.

I don't see the bang identified in there or anywhere else.

I am also wondering about this "sweeping in amid heavy gunfire" thing....from one man?

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Without them the death toll would have been far greater.

Did you not just say how easy it is to be an armchair critic?

The terrorist had already started shooting the hostages when they stormed in.

And you are sure that had nothing to with the storming in?? How?

How can you decide at this time that it was absolutely NOT the actions of the commandos that got those two hostages killed? How? Because you don't want to even entertain the possibility?

And I am the armchair critic here??

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It is now up to the Islamic community in Australia to - as a person - renounce this evil "leader" and everything he stood for.

Well that is going to be damned hard. I have not seen where his motives were printed yet. In fact I read somewhere here that his motives were "murky".

So how do you denounce a man's motives when you don't know what they are? Even a murderous loon might have one point of sense under his turban.

But one of the biggest reasons its going to be hard to denounce him, and thus fully take the side of the Aussie authorities, is going to be the brazen way they invaded 25 homes in September. The Aussie government made it look like a war on Muslims. How do Muslims go about giving that approval?

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Wow! Awesome work by the Aussie police!

Storm the building on the basis of a bang....which wasn't a bomb....and which was WHAT exactly? And two dead.

And we hear about the lone wolf loon's ideology and past, blah, blah, blah. How about his demands? What were they? Any attempt to meet them?

Oh I am sure too many of you have gone into panic mode to even think you might be getting jacked around. Go ahead. Run to the police. Swear to give them whatever power they want if only they will save you! See how that works out.

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