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Gunmen ambush family in South African homestead; kill 10

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If there is any proof needed that there is a direct correlation between strict gun laws and high crime rates, this is it.

You can find any combination of high/low crime rates, and strict/permissive gun laws. You even gave an example of where the complete opposite is true: strict gun regulation, low crime, although you try to dismiss it with a 'No true Scotsman' defence. Are the northern European countries all exceptions too? But according to you, IIRC, it's all about religion. What actually makes the difference are socio-economic factors which is what makes SA's high murder rate unsurprising, considering it's an economic basket case. Not to mention an ineffectual, corrupt police force.

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Since it's socio-economic factors, if the developed countries of Western Europe loosen their gun laws they will still see low crime rates. Switzerland is an example, and if the rest of Western Europe follows the example of Switzerland it will still not have any impact on their low crime rates.

So they have strict gun laws and low crime rates? A complete u-turn from your earlier post, when you said strict laws relate to high crime rates. Huh. And the Switzerland spin? LOL. The Swiss are far more responsible with their firearms, and in 2019 voted to strengthen their gun laws. Which is why in 2020 they had 0.1 cases of gun homicide per 100,000 population. You're giving many examples to prove the opposite of what you're saying.

However, for the rest of the world which does not enjoy the same kind of socio-economic factors, it's important to follow the example of the US and allow law abiding citizens (which are the majority of the population) to bear arms. Since they are the ones at the receiving end of the unreasonable gun laws which criminals will never abide by

Once you use the US as an example of how gun laws work, you completely debase your entire argument. The USA does enjoy the same kind of socio-economic factors, has loose gun laws and incredibly high rates of gun violence. And as proved in an earlier article, India has a lower rate of firearm death than the US, with stricter gun laws. Oh but I forgot. Religion.

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South Africa has one of the world's highest murder rates, with about 20,000 murders recorded every year out of a population of 60 million.

South Africa also has strict firearm laws as per the Firearms Control Act 2004. Previously the firearm laws were permissive and crime rates were much lower.

If there is any proof needed that there is a direct correlation between strict gun laws and high crime rates, this is it.

Japan is an exception which proves the rule.

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What actually makes the difference are socio-economic factors

Thanks for proving my point.

Since it's socio-economic factors, if the developed countries of Western Europe loosen their gun laws they will still see low crime rates. Switzerland is an example, and if the rest of Western Europe follows the example of Switzerland it will still not have any impact on their low crime rates.

However, for the rest of the world which does not enjoy the same kind of socio-economic factors, it's important to follow the example of the US and allow law abiding citizens (which are the majority of the population) to bear arms. Since they are the ones at the receiving end of the unreasonable gun laws which criminals will never abide by.

South Africa is a case in point, and so is India.

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