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© Copyright 2024 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Harris' suggestion that Poland could be next if Ukraine loses war resonates with Poles
By VANESSA GERA and MONIKA SCISLOWSKA WARSAW, Poland©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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TaiwanIsNotChina
Poland is only interested in living in peace, free from terrorist Russia.
Banthu
Impossible.
Their air force is grounded, their navy is at the bottom of the Black Sea, their army is wiped out after human wave meat assaults.
Their economy is about to collapse and Putin has a new terminal illness every week.
And don't forget that the Russians have no answer for NATO game changing tanks.
JJE
Warsaw is clearly interested in correcting a historical wrong. Look at a map. Parts of the country to the east used to theirs.
Bob Fosse
”Why hasn’t he done it?”
Toblerone
Harris is extremely irresponsible to be peddling this nonsense for political gain.
JJE
Read the article - the gist is Poles want a buffer zone. This means Galicia.
stormcrow
She’s absolutely right. If Ukraine falls, who’s next? And now that Russia can count on China, Russia will be more emboldened.
Toblerone
She’s absolutely right. If Ukraine falls, who’s next? And now that Russia can count on China, Russia will be more emboldened.
A Neo- Con fantasy. But hey, Dick Chaney is endorsing Harris.
itsonlyrocknroll
To much blood has been spilled, run relentlessly under bridges.
President of Russia Vladimir Putin backed into a corner without a face saving exit route could launch a major all out assault on western Europe.
It is an absurd preposterous reckless path, to speculate hypothesize, ifs buts maybes of Ukraine's downfall in "who's next" supposition.
Bob Fosse
Yet you speculate, hypothesize even, that “Putin backed into a corner without a face saving exit route could launch a major all out assault on western Europe.”
itsonlyrocknroll
Bob, President of Russia Vladimir Putin has threatened the first use of tactical nuclear weapons, strikes in Europe.
Not either speculative, hypothetical.
The pertinent question is risking provoking a world war. calling his bluff.
Time maybe for "backdoor" diplomacy, along the lines of President John F Kennedy solution to the Cuban crisis.
Is there not a danger that Europe/EU/US/UK/Russia are not sleepwalking into a point of no return.
Strangerland
Moscow would cease to exist.
It's blustering.
Right wingers live in fear though, and respect blustering, so they are really scared and going on about doom, doom, and more doom. Oh yeah, and doom.
itsonlyrocknroll
We would all cease to exist Strangerland.
if cornered, would a humiliated President of Russia Vladimir Putin roll the nuclear dice?
Or is Putin bluffing, blustering?
When does doom become a reality?
That could depend if Putin solemnly believes there is noting to lose.
Strangerland
And so would Putin and Russia, which is all he cares about.
yes we know, “doom!”
Strangerland
Russias doom comes when they nuke anyone.
burgers and beers
“Otherwise, (Russian President Vladimir) Putin would be sitting in Kyiv with his eyes on the rest of Europe. Starting with Poland,” she said......She’s absolutely right. If Ukraine falls, who’s next?"
This is just scaremongering. Poland is a NATO member. Putin is neither interested nor crazy to attack a NATO country. End of story.
Hello Kitty 321
The use of long-range missiles to strike the heart of Russia could easily lead to the use of tactical nukes, after all, what is the use of a deterrent if it does not deter.
Strangerland
Yes Putin is tough, the right is scared, doom doom doom, give in to the strong man.
We get it.
Toblerone
Russias doom comes when they nuke anyone.
Oh, do tell. Ever heard of MAD?
Strangerland
You guys said they wouldn't attack Ukraine. How did that prediction turn out?
burgers and beers
A Neo- Con fantasy. But hey, Dick Chaney is endorsing Harris.
Yeah, not surprising at all . Cheney's " Saddam has WMDs and is going to use them against the US" goes well with the current White House scaremongering about Putin wanting to attack rest of Europe nonsense.
Strangerland
Oh, do tell. Ever heard of MAD?
Do you not realize what the M in MAD stands for?
burgers and beers
The same doom would come to that " anyone" too.
But some NATO warmongers just want to keep on pushing and pushing.
itsonlyrocknroll
A EU initiated phased lift of punitive sanction, EU peacekeepers police the withdrawal of all Russian forces.
A start.
Strangerland
Yes, must appease the dictator, right?
Because showing weakness to a dictator has made them stop in which examples of history?
Bob Fosse
Yet you said ‘could’ in your hypothetical speculation. Surely ‘an absurd preposterous reckless path’ wouldn’t you agree?
JJE
What are Poland's true motives?
Ask yourself that after looking at a map and a history book which includes the previous.
Strangerland
Yes, that is how the Mutual part works.
Which is why Russia won't nuke anyone, because that would mean no more Russia.
Why do you guys think they aren't just as afraid as western nukes as you guys are of theirs? Remember, it's Russia against the entire planet - they're one target. Moscow just isn't that big.
burgers and beers
Ukraine is not a NATO member. Did you guys forget that? Big difference.
Strangerland
Not becoming the next nation invaded by Russia.
Strangerland
I'm curious which of you have grown up in a dictatorship? My parents were part of a revolution. Are you all speaking as armchair warriors, or have any of you actually lived any of this?
lincolnman
Hmmm.....
"Russia on Monday threatened to strike British military facilities and said it would hold drills simulating the use of battlefield nuclear weapons amid sharply rising tensions over comments by senior Western officials about possibly deeper involvement in the war in Ukraine.
After summoning the British ambassador to the Foreign Ministry, Moscow warned that Ukrainian strikes on Russian territory with U.K.-supplied weapons could bring retaliatory strikes against British military facilities."
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russia-threatens-britain-with-retaliation-if-involvement-in-ukraine-war-deepens
Strangerland
Yes, the war would already have many more countries participating if Ukraine had been a NATO member.
Strangerland
If Russia doesn't like it, Russia probably should have tried not starting a war, and should end the one they have. Now they're just facing accountability for bad decisions.
Cephus
"Former President Donald Trump twice refused to directly answer a question during the debate about whether he wanted U.S. ally Ukraine to win the war. Meanwhile, Vice President Kamala Harris praised U.S. and NATO support for Ukraine in its fight against Russia's invasion so far — and called for it to continue."
Joe through his pride and arrogance initiated the Ukraine war but now with no solution in sight, their escape route is crying Poland, Poland? Aren't you glad the Polish votes in Polish elections?
deanzaZZR
I'm confused. Did a few million ethnic Russians move into Poland when I wasn't paying attention?
Strangerland
So you figure Putin is Biden's puppet?
You guys are really getting deep with the conspiracy theories...
burgers and beers
"My parents were part of a revolution. "
Which revolution?
"Are you all speaking as armchair warriors, or have any of you actually lived any of this?"
Part of my family has. And yet or perhaps because of it they all prefer peaceful solutions to the destruction and conflict escalation.
itsonlyrocknroll
"Could" on quite a number of occasions. Bob
I admit frankly I fear for the future, for my family in UK.
It is that simple, my own family self interest to survive.
There is always compromise,
Strangerland
Do you think you live in more or less fear than the people of Ukraine?
Strangerland
The one that my parents lived through.
I've never said on here which country I'm from (other than America) and don't intend to start.
Strangerland
Interesting. The people of my parents country say the only way to beat a dictator is to be tougher than them.
But what do they know. They only overthrew a dictator.
burgers and beers
Putin didn't want one. Relentless decades old neocon and NATO expansion plans were the root cause of it. But I agree the current war should end. It's time for ceasefire talks. NATO fighting Russia "until the last Ukrainian" scenario is not preferable.
Strangerland
So who made him invade Ukraine? Who is he a puppet of? Xi? Biden?
Remember, Putin ordered the invasion. So you're saying he's weak and controlled?
Strangerland
Putin doesn't. Why do you disagree with him.
burgers and beers
"Which revolution? The one that my parents lived through....Interesting. The people of my parents country say the only way to beat a dictator is to be tougher than them. But what do they know. They only overthrew a dictator."
Sure, ok then. 'People of your parents country' might have a different experience from people of other countries. Not all " revolutions " are the same. Just sayin
itsonlyrocknroll
Putin has foolishly recklessly succeeded to politically milltary "paint himself into a corner".
TaiwanIsNotChina
Russia has not improved in civilization since 1939, so Poland is right to be afraid.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Who is to say the lying KGB thug didn't want one? Are supposed to believe is sad little face?
None of which is a military attack.
Putin doesn't want an unconditional ceasefire or anything like it. He already issued surrender demands.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Through what specific actions?
burgers and beers
Why would I agree with Putin on everything? My opinion is the war should end asap.
Do you blindly agree with everything Biden/ Harris WH says?
burgers and beers
I made that clear in the post above.
"Who is he a puppet of? Xi? Biden?"
Interesting question, I think neither. But then again now it could be Harris, Putin stated he supports her. Or it could be the other way around...could she be? ...Putin is cunning, wouldn't put anything past him ;)
TaiwanIsNotChina
The agreement that ended the Cuban missile crisis was that the US would not attack Cuba. I could get behind a similar obligation being place on Russia vis a vis Ukraine.
TaiwanIsNotChina
So cunning he added two NATO members and removed any sort of hesitancy of putting gear on Russia's border.
TaiwanIsNotChina
He's got two daughters. Presumably he doesn't want them going up in flames.
Cephus
"So you figure Putin is Biden's puppet?
You guys are really getting deep with the conspiracy theories..."
You go it all wrong Einstein! Zelensky is the Joes puppet and the sole savior of Liberalism. I wonder when he gonna drop the begging bowl hoping from one nation to another. Pride solves nothing time to stop that nonsensical war is now.
JJE
Tusk cancelled his prescheduled trip to Berlin.
The plot thickens.
TaiwanIsNotChina
What land has your country volunteered so that we know this plan can work?
Strangerland
Ukrainians, Crimeans, and now Kurskians disagree with you.
itsonlyrocknroll
He's got two daughters. Presumably he doesn't want them going up in flames.
Wife and family, a huge sacrifice, unquestioning courage, testament to his bravery, honour, distinction, duty above all.
I have nothing but the upmost respect for President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the people of Ukraine.
Strangerland
Do you support their fight for independence or do you think the should surrender to Russia to get the war over with?
Strangerland
Just trying to find out how much "utmost" means to you.
Strangerland
They lie right? Something about a deep state innit?
Underworld
Cephus
Putin initiated the Ukraine war.
burgers and beers
Right, you finally get it.
Strangerland
What can I say? We’re both speaking from a place of moral righteousness so we’re very aligned.
Just like people of corruption align.
JJE
Message to Poles: Volhynia is a wrong which has never been apologized for.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Message to Russians: your future is in zinc coffins unless you do something about your terrorist leader.
Strangerland
Aww, poor Russia.
JJE
It will be handed over amicably once the locals see how they've been badly led down the garden trail and wish to join their brethren from Donbass and Crimea, who have better infrastructure, good governance and a prosperous path based on tolerance for all.