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SACRAMENTO, Calif

Kamala Harris told a friendly crowd of Hollywood donors on Thursday 

That says it all right there.

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We’ll soon have Trump supporters here playing the race card by railing agonist Harris for identifying as black instead of Indian.

I don't give a crap what race she identifies with.

They’ll also criticize her record as a DA for locked up criminals

Yeah, it sucks.

while praising Trump for being “law and order.”

Yeah, he is.

What else you got?

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Virtual campaigns are a reality as long as the US continues to do so little to curb the spread of Covid45.

Included in worries about the use of video is someone from the Trump campaign, maybe a White House employee (i.e. someone whose salary is paid by US taxpayers), maybe someone paid by a dark money funded right wing organization, maybe one of the 'foreign' groups backing Trump will once again release more deep fake videos.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/trumps-first-deepfake/610750/

Harris suggested public health experts might be “muzzled" from having the last word about a vaccine's effectiveness.

If that's the case, if in fact the Trump admin 'muzzle' information regarding the vaccine's effectiveness, then the global pro-Trump, 'anti-media' Trump organizations (US and 'foreign) will have once again got their way in stifling media outlets in their ongoing attacks on a free, for profit media.

The far right do not want their authoritarian leaders questioned.

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We’ll soon have Trump supporters here playing the race card by railing agonist Harris for identifying as black instead of Indian.

A good rule of thumb is that the racist is usually the first person to introduce the subject of race, no matter how little it has to do with the topic at hand.

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A good rule of thumb

Beyond rule of thumb, a historical reality has been far right authoritarian regimes pushing ultra-nationalism have been racist. As have been their supporters.

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From the article

Leaning into her role as the first Black woman on a major party's presidential ticket,

Now I’m really wondering what the topic actually is.

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Beyond rule of thumb, a historical reality has been far right authoritarian regimes pushing ultra-nationalism have been racist. As have been their supporters.

A historical reality is that the pro-KKK and slavery Democrats have always been racist. As have been their supporters.

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A historical reality is that the pro-KKK and slavery Democrats have always been racist. As have been their supporters.

And oh my hoe times have changed.

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And oh my hoe times have changed.

It sadly doesn't appear so.

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It sadly doesn't appear so.

True. just the sides.

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A historical reality is that the pro-KKK and slavery Democrats have always been racist. As have been their supporters

A historical reality is those were southern democrats who opposed Lincoln’s republicans. Additionally, those democrats were more akin to today’s republicans and Lincoln’s republicans, progressive to the point of taking the country into a civil war to abolish slavery, were more akin to today’s democrats.

Don't let these facts stop you though.

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Tell me, why is it that a Republican who insists on calling a mixed gender person male any different from a Democrat who insists on calling a mixed race person black?

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It sadly doesn't appear so.

Beliefs shape perceptions, of course. Most far rightists pushing ultra-nationalistic authoritarianism can only see existence in binary terms. If something was once one way, regardless how many decades ago, in their minds it'll still be that way. This applies to many of those still supporting little old, agrarian Russia.

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I know lots of people on both sides. And the worst racists are on the left. Those on the right tend to be open about it. Those on the left try hard to pretend they are not, but are in fact obsessed with race.

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I know lots of people on both sides. And the worst racists are on the left. Those on the right tend to be open about it. Those on the left try hard to pretend they are not, but are in fact obsessed with race.

Your personal anecdotes settle it.

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She is easily the worst possible VP choice. She is truly awful

I am sure the See nothing, say nothing, do nothing pence can easily take the Worst possible VP Crown!!!

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A Trump supporter disparaging anyone for lying is comedic gold. How many lies does Trump spew in a single hour?

So you concur that she is a liar. You just find it funny in a "pot calling the kettle black" kind of way if a Trump supporter points it out.

As to your question, I'm interested in the answer myself. Exactly how many time "does" Trump lie in an hour?

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Your personal anecdotes settle it.

And you offer what exactly?

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So you concur that she is a liar. You just find it funny in a "pot calling the kettle black" kind of way if a Trump supporter points it out.

We are all liars; so, yes, I think she is a liar. However, there is a world of difference between being inaccurate about the music you listened to in university and intentionally lying. There is no denying that Trump constantly intentionally lies.

As to your question, I'm interested in the answer myself. Exactly how many time "does" Trump lie in an hour?

It was a rhetorical question. You can, however, find the number of verified lies he has published during his presidency and then divide that by the number of hours of his presidency to get an hourly average.

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And you offer what exactly?

Facts and logic, which is obvious from my posts. When I’m correct, I also admit it and thank the person who corrected me. It’s called being a rational adult.

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Here, Biden explains what Harris did as prosecutor. It's in Biden-speak of course.

Harris “had a police department when she was there that, in fact, was abusing people’s rights… she, in fact, was told by her own people — her own staff — that she should do something about and disclose to defense attorneys like me that you, in fact, have been — the police officer did something that did not give you information of what would exculpate your client. She didn’t do that. She never did it. And so what happened? Along came a federal judge and said enough, enough. And he freed 1,000 of these people. If you doubt me, Google ‘1,000 prisoners freed, Kamala Harris.’”

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Most far rightists pushing ultra-nationalistic authoritarianism can only see existence in binary terms

How many far right, ultra-nationalist, authoritarianism pushing people are out there suffering from non-binary vision impairment? Any idea of the actual number? Sounds like a serious problem.

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“They have similar values, but she also has had a different experience," Finney said.

Harris let us know all about Biden’s values during the democratic hopefuls’ debates last year; and Gabbard let us know all about Harris’ values also at the debates.

So yeah: Finny is correct: they do have similar values.

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But that was just a debate, she didnt really mean what she said. Just said it to try to win the debate, she claims.

Harris let us know all about Biden’s values during the democratic hopefuls’ debates last year; 

Even less reason to trust this person who will say anything, even if they dont believe it, in certain situations that benefit themselves. Untrustworthy.

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Well when it comes to debating racism I'm going to vote against the guy who was sued twice and lost twice for discrimination against blacks.

But that's just me.

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But that was just a debate, she didnt really meanwhat she said. Just said it to try to win the debate, she claims.

Even less reason to trust this person who will say anything, even if they dont believe it, in certain situations that benefit themselves. Untrustworthy.

Well, it makes sense that neither of these two want to make any public appearances for the purposes of expounding and defending any policies when they both have appalling records of civil rights abuses against blacks by locking them up, and keeping them in jail for long periods of time that were disproportionate to the crimes committed. I’d want to hide my face too.

It’s clear they’re using coronavirus as a cover. They meet black audiences in churches to exploit tragedies and pander for votes; they supported “peaceful” protests over the summer. Surely they can debate publicly while social distancing and wearing a mask, no?

But I won’t hold my breath.

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Harris is only just beginning with a softly, softly feminine approach, but once she gets into her stride, she'll drop the virtual stuff and she'll be getting real and playing hardball mano a mano with the Republicans. Trump will do a runner, but she'll diaper the orange jelly baby and put him to bed, in a cozy cell, I hope, because justice matters.

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Tell me, why is it that a Republican who insists on calling a mixed gender person male any different from a Democrat who insists on calling a mixed race person black?

In my own long experience if Ms. Harris called herself "Asian" or "Indian" a good many older whites I know would all dismiss her claim with a wave of the hand saying something to the effect "who's she kidding, she's just a....followed by the racial epithet of your choice". there would also be the inevitable questions why she was "hiding" or "denying" her black ancestry. She has probably been called black, or some epithet for black, since she was a little girl.

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But no concerns about these 2 people Biden and Harris being responsible for the race based incarceration of thousands of Black men singled out by their crime policies?

Just go back to something someone told you happened in 1972 as your "he is a racist" proof. doesnt make sense to me, but its your vote.

Well when it comes to debating racism I'm going to vote against the guy who was sued twice and lost twice for discrimination against blacks.

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Black:. Just go back to something someone told you happened in 1972

I've read the court case. Straight up racism from the Trumps. You haven't.

But of course you can simply explain to me why blacks nearly exclusively vote Democrat. Is it because Democrats are the real racists? That would be....odd

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Yes, because the Dems are like the old time slave owners. They promise safety and security and benefits in return for their work (votes). Dems just never get around to actually doing what they say and keeping their promises.

You wouldnt be viewing what happened in 1972 through the lens of 2020 would you? Cause Ive seen Trump on Oprah and other shows and the topic never came up. In fact, Trump praised Oprah profusely as VP back in those days when he talked about running.

So Trump was never a racist, until he became a Republican. Everything you use as proof of his "racism" is when he was a Democrat (1972). You know Trump is getting 20% Black vote this time, right?

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The best way to avoid dealing with posts from Republican rapid response team members, Internet Research agency employees, Wu Mao employees, Bannon keyboard brigade members and others paid (some 'volunteer') to push their forms of authoritarianism and attack democracies is to ignore them. Ignore their frames

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She has probably been called black, or some epithet for black, since she was a little girl.

Growing up with a financially comfortable family in and around Berkeley California, I would say that is rather unlikely. She may claim it, though, as it makes her sound noble.

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But of course you can simply explain to me why blacks nearly exclusively vote Democrat. Is it because Democrats are the real racists? 

You will be surprised. I don't know if Trump will win, but I'd bet the house that he gets a record share of the black vote for his party.

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I didnt say "polls", I said "the vote". Trump will get 20% of the Black vote because of Biden's blunders and the choice of Kamala Harris as the promised "Black" VP.

20%- Which will be shown after everyone votes. Its my "prediction" which will come true.

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The best way to avoid dealing with posts from Republican rapid response team members, Internet Research agency employees, Wu Mao employees, Bannon keyboard brigade members and others paid (some 'volunteer') to push their forms of authoritarianism and attack democracies is to ignore them. Ignore their frames

Too right. I need to remind myself that it is counterproductive to engage people that refuse to acknowledge facts or employ logic and who have double standards.

For instance, people that say we can’t trust someone who lies, but also say Trump is the greatest president ever.

Or, people who say polls aren’t credible, but then constantly cite them.

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didnt say "polls", I said "the vote". Trump will get 20% of the Black vote because of Biden's blunders and the choice of Kamala Harris as the promised "Black" VP.

You said, “You know Trump is getting 20% Black vote this time, right?” which you could only “know” from polls.

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Blacklabel:. Yes, because the Dems are like the old time slave owners. They promise safety and security and benefits in return for their work (votes). 

And blacks, as a race, and too stupid to see what's going on and need a white dude to explain it to them? How thoughtful of you.

I guess that means white supremacists will vote in droves for Biden and Harris, right?

You wouldnt be viewing what happened in 1972 through the lens of 2020 would you? 

Stop trying to excuse Trump's proven racism. The laws were based on the Fair Housing Act which applied in 1972 as it applies today. It was made to stop racists like the Trumps from engaging in discrimination.

There is no "1972 lens" and a "2020 lens." Same laws. You just don't get it is all. Maybe you are just a white slave on the GOP plantation? I can explain your mistakes of you'd like me to.

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Superlib:. And blacks, as a race, and too stupid to see what's going on and need a white dude to explain it to them?

Blacklabel:. Yep

Alrighty.

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Kamala Harris told a friendly crowd of Hollywood donors on Thursday 

That says it all right there.

Clint Eastwood and Arnie were busy that evening. Trump will go to CA not because he will win there, he is down by 35% right now, but to collect the cash from Hollywood types and other deluded supporters who have too much money.

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Considering Harris dropped out of the democrat primaries before the vote was cast tells a lot about what that party thinks of her. She can virtual campaign all she wants, but the reality is Harris offers nothing to help the democrats secure a victory in November.

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One thing that Harris needs to worry about is her abysmal record as a shrewd and selective opportunist prosecutor and all or at least a big chunk of it will come out in the VP debates. She did horribly in the DNC debates and I’m not sure how she’ll give a rebuttal to all of her scandals in the debate. Should be interesting to watch.

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Funny how all the “law and order” Trump supporters that constantly defend the police when they mow down unarmed black people and complain that judges are biased when they rule against Trump or his felonious associates are disparaging Harris’ record as a DA and AG.

It’s simply them demonstrated their hypocritical double-standard: It’s okay for us, but completely unreasonable for Dems/libs.

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Unarmed? Hardly. When you check YouTube or any other social media, as far as Harris is concerned the record is of her own making, the scandals the biases and how she put a lot of innocent black men in prison on overly excessive charges seems something Democrats now want to overlook, but would scrutinize it were it a Republican AG. That’s the very definition of double standard.

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