Harris condemns Trump's rhetoric; says voters should make sure he 'can't have that microphone again'

Harris said her heart breaks after threats of violence have disrupted the city following comments amplified by Trump and his running mate alleging, without evidence, that immigrants are kidnapping and consuming people’s pets.

Trump has a war room of QAnon adjacent influencers pumping out disinfo whom he met with before the debate.

Vice President Kamala Harris on Tuesday decried Republican Donald Trump for inflammatory rhetoric about migrants in Springfield, Ohio, and on other topics, saying voters should make sure he “can’t have that microphone again.”

And now, it turns out, Vance admitted that he made up the eating cats and dogs story.

And now look at the disruption that it has caused, and no remorse at all from team MAGA.

Full event: VP Kamala Harris takes questions from NABJ journalists, September 17th, 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfbHBHmw7Gc

Again another Harris "love fest" from more than friendly NABJ journalists

Statements after statement unfunded pledges, $25,000 departments for first time buyers

It the same repetitive spiel," I am a middle class, my mother was hard working........"

Followed by a gibberish word salad,

The "opportunity economy".... childcare, Harris stated nobody should pay more than 7% of there income on childcare, followed by another word salad rambling intelligible rant.

Not a single question was answered directly, no searching follow up.

Harris said the Republican attacks on the city and migrants there were “lies that are grounded in tropes that are age old.”

Team MAGA, doing racism.

itsonlyrocknroll

The "opportunity economy".... childcare, Harris stated nobody should pay more than 7% of there income on childcare, followed by another word salad rambling intelligible rant.

Not a single question was answered directly, no searching follow up.

Yeah, like when Trump was asked about childcare from the Economic Club of New York and he proceeded with the mother of all word salads.

Not a single question was answered directly, no searching follow up

Underworld,

Just listen to the "repetition" the unfunded $6000, the "crib" the "car seat"

Then scroll back to the question asked..........

The "black men" question, the hesitation, the stumbling  incoherent monologue.......

Underworld, politely Emperor Palatine stated " *Only at the end, November 6th, do you understand, you will find that It Is you who are mistaken, about a great many things." *

And now look at the disruption that it has caused, and no remorse at all from team MAGA.

MAGA hate facts and democracy - both stand in their way.

Trump will get crazier and more offensive as the reality of his position sinks in, culminating in another refusal to accept the results of the election.

Too funny, the left can’t say a single word about anyone conservative or rhetoric spoken, they’re just as bad, worse actually.

Harris has largely sidestepped traditional media appearances and instead focused on rallies, grassroots organizing and social media engagement, where the vice president can sidestep questions from independent journalists about her policy record and proposed agenda.

This is one of the elephants in the room with Harris. She has avoided all actual media scrutiny.

That should be a major story in itself.

the left can’t say a single word about anyone conservative or rhetoric spoken

Word salad?

Right back to the rhetoric that has Trump with 2 more assassination attempts than Harris has press conferences.

she sure loves to talk, until it’s a non scripted press conference time.

Too funny, the left can’t say a single word about anyone conservative or rhetoric spoken, they’re just as bad, worse actually.

Thanks for the daily helpings of fresh, organic MAGA word salad.

You often use this clumsy wording but the left can say anything it wants, freeze peaches and all

And judging by the reception the words of the 'left' are getting greater traction and push back against MAGA maniac rhetoric.

Right back to the rhetoric that has Trump with 2 more assassination attempts

Made by republicans.

bass4funk

Too funny, the left can’t say a single word about anyone conservative or rhetoric spoken, they’re just as bad, worse actually.

Nope.

Right back to the rhetoric that has Trump with 2 more assassination attempts than Harris has press conferences.

Harris's rhetoric is fine. Trump's rhetoric leads to bomb threats and school closures in Springfield.

maga are pretending to ignore the multiple times 45 has claimed something or someone is a “threat to democracy”. Just hours before the golf course attempted assassination he made a truth social post all caps about a ‘true threat to democracy’.

Hypocrites.

Right back to the rhetoric that has Trump with 2 more assassination attempts than Harris has press conferences.

Ah yes, calling out Trump for his nasty racist, violent rhetoric is what led to two "assassination attempts" on Trump. We should all stop criticizing Trump. He can just be as nasty and racist as he wants, and we shouldn't say anything about it. Nope.

she sure loves to talk, until it’s a non scripted press conference time.

So what? Considering she walked Trump like a dog at the debate, I'm sure she can handle her own in a press conference.

The latest assassination attempt on Trump is not considered to be one because the assassin didn't fire a shot.

Review the question ,to find a solution to end the war in the middle east........

A two state solution?.

Harris reply haplessly wide of the mark, is frightening, ludicrous, shocking in its naivety.

Harris goal of attempting to politically impost two state solution, is a foolish imprudence, grossly ill-considered that could reach the completely opposite conclusion.

The former president should turn the other cheek.

Nope.

They are. Take your pick of politician and I’ll back it up, go ahead.

Harris's rhetoric is fine.

So is Trump’s

Trump's rhetoric leads to bomb threats and school closures in Springfield.

As does Harris and shooters

JJE

This is one of the elephants in the room with Harris. She has avoided all actual media scrutiny.

That's how she chooses to conduct her campaign.

That should be a major story in itself.

No, it shouldn't.

Ah yes, calling out Trump f

no they already repeated the “much threat to democracy” line from the White House podium, that’s the dog whistle the left so loves. Round 3 coming.

what do you do about “threats”?

how would you ensure Trump can never use a microphone again?

here doggy doggy!

The latest assassination attempt on Trump is not considered to be one because the assassin didn't fire a shot.

Of course, he just went there to lay there and get a tan, take his firearm just in case he encounters a squirrel.

Thanks for the daily helpings of fresh, organic MAGA word salad.

The LIB State of Mind:

Acting like you can't understand it, it's a "word salad."

If it is your opinion, it is called "projecting."

If it is you talking about the other candidate also mentioned, it is called "deflecting."

If I say it though, it is 100% factual and I have my "bros" to back me up.

bass4funk

Trump's rhetoric leads to bomb threats and school closures in Springfield.

As does Harris and shooters

There is no relation between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

So Trump makes stupid comments, etc...

Now how many Haitians have been targeted for assassination?

Harris and her cohorts spent years telling the people how Trump is the greatest evil since Hitler and Stalin, spent the campaign Gasllighting Americans that Trump is the greatest threat to America and then feigns surprise and outrage when not one but two people try killing him.

Maybe she and her cohorts should take her own advice and tone down the hate speech.

Blacklabel

no they already repeated the “much threat to democracy” line from the White House podium, that’s the dog whistle the left so loves. Round 3 coming.

It's not a dog whistle, it's a fact.

what do you do about “threats”?

how would you ensure Trump can never use a microphone again?

Beat him in the presidential election, of course.

Underworld

Today 08:20 am JST

There is no relation between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

Sure, and water isn't wet!

no they already repeated the “much threat to democracy” line from the White House podium, that’s the dog whistle the left so loves. Round 3 coming.

It's true, though. He's said he wants to be a dictator (but just for a day), said he wants to suspend the constitution, will not respect the election results, and wants to deport legal immigrants. He doesn't have any respect for or understanding of Democracy, and it would be wrong to pretend otherwise.

how would you ensure Trump can never use a microphone again?

By defeating him in November, duh.

Yeah, like when Trump was asked about childcare from the Economic Club of New York and he proceeded with the mother of all word salads.

Not a single question was answered directly, no searching follow up

That's the problem with Trump. He never answers the question directly. Then people question him about it, and he just claims he's doing this 'weave' technique by saying a whole bunch of things and somehow it all comes together. He claims he knows all these great professors who say to him what a wonderful technique. What sane person does that? You don't do that in a presentation, speech, debate, or lecture. He should just keep it simple and direct. It's no wonder people look so bored at his rallies. Looking at the videos of his rallies, I've even noticed people falling asleep or look to be in some kind of daze.

Hypocrites.

Totally. The hypocrisy in the GOP (at least the current makeup of it) runs deep. When people bring up the harmful rhetoric from Trump, they just go with the "What about ...?" tactic. It's so predictable. Like pro-Trump posters here, when a fact about Trump is brought up, their only defense is "But what about ...?" to try to make you forget or try to gloss over any criticisms brought forth to them. They probably hope that people will forget Jan. 6., or Trump saying that he could shoot a gun in the middle of a street and people will still vote for him, or that Mexican immigrants are rapists and murderers, or that Kamala Harris is a Marxist and fascist, or that he could have has grabbed women's body parts, or him urging people at his rallies to "knock the crap" out of tomato throwers. And the list of deadly and harmful rhetoric from Trump goes on and on.

spent the campaign Gasllighting Americans that Trump is the greatest threat to America

Yesterday you asked for evidence of 45 using the phrase ‘threat to democracy’ against his opponents then went silent when it was provided.

Who’s ‘gaslighting’?

Antiquesaving

So Trump makes stupid comments, etc...

Now how many Haitians have been targeted for assassination?

Quite a number going by the number of bomb threats and Proud Boys with guns that went to Springfield.

Harris and her cohorts spent years telling the people how Trump is the greatest evil since Hitler and Stalin,

The only person I remember mentioning Hitler is Trump's running mate, so...

spent the campaign Gasllighting Americans

Harris doesn't do gaslighting.

that Trump is the greatest threat to America

True.

Maybe she and her cohorts should take her own advice and tone down the hate speech.

Harris doesn't do hate speech.

Trump, however, vilifies immigrants, promotes xenophobia, stokes hate and incites fear.

Now how many Haitians have been targeted for assassination?

None, because that's not the definition of assassination.

The people of Springfield, Ohio, have had their schools and municipal offices shut down the past few days as a result bomb threats by rightwingers.

Maybe she and her cohorts should take her own advice and tone down the hate speech.

Yeah. We should just let racists be racists. We should just let authoritarians do and say whatever they want. We have no right to interfere in their fascism. reee

Harris when asked the most basic of questions,,,,,

Are people better off now than you were 4 years ago?

?????

Thanks for the daily helpings of fresh, organic MAGA word salad.

The LIB State of Mind:

Acting like you can't understand it, it's a "word salad."

I take that back.

The MAGA word salad is not fresh and organic. Definitely corporate astro-turfed plastic.

During her September debate with Trump, she said it was a “tragedy” that he had “attempted to use race to divide the American people.”

Care to offer a reasoned, logical defense of Trump's racialist rhetoric ? 'Black jobs', 'eating cats and dogs', 'Indian or Black?' etc.

no they already repeated the “much threat to democracy” line from the White House podium, that’s the dog whistle the left so loves. Round 3 coming. 

what do you do about “threats”?

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5112472/donald-trump-calls-president-biden-threat-democracy

Is that a dog whistle too?

Antiquesaving

There is no relation between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

Sure, and water isn't wet!

You're going to have to try a little harder than that as proof of a link between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

@Antiquesaving,

Harris and her cohorts spent years telling the people how Trump is the greatest evil since Hitler and Stalin,

Can you provide an example of Kamala Harris stating this?

Underworld

Today 08:29 am JST

Antiquesaving

> There is no relation between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

> Sure, and water isn't wet!

> You're going to have to try a little harder than that as proof of a link between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

Okay, I'll use Harris and your own logic.

So Trump makes remarks about Haitians and everyone says this is going to bring violence and hatred and danger to the Haitians.

But Harris, Biden, you and everybody else on their side turns around and says Trump is the biggest danger in the face of this planet. And then you feign surprise and say

"oh we're not connected to these attempts to kill him. Where would you get that idea?"

I doubt you are able to see any logic through your hat covered glasses.

After all this, watching the left try to “normalize” political violence including assassination into our political systems while trying to once again downplay and memory hole this second attempt on the life of our next President is……

There is no relation between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

Good point. If anything, it's probably Trump's rhetoric that got those two people triggered. These two people have been confirmed to be former Trump supporters. I'm pretty sure they have attended some of his rallies or listened to him speak on TV, the Internet, etc. They most likely got sick and tired of his continuous lies and harmful rhetoric. Harris saying that Trump is a threat to democracy was merely pointing out a fact; that he was proven to be the cause of the January 6th insurrection. He never even lifted a finger to stop it once it was set in motion, even though even some of his own family members like Ivanka tried to tell him to stop. By the way, is it any wonder we never hear from her supporting her father.

We have free speech as a core value.

Kamala: we need to prevent people who differ in opinion from us to even have a microphone.

not American values. I can see why she doesn’t want to be bothered to have to have press conferences and be questioned in non safe spaces where they might ask something they not allowed and actually push for an answer.

attempt on the life of our next President is……

No-one tried to assassinate Kamala. Republicans do keep trying to kill their own candidate, vice president, members of congress etc though. Violent people, it seems.

Antiquesaving

You're going to have to try a little harder than that as proof of a link between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

Okay, I'll use Harris and your own logic.

So Trump makes remarks about Haitians and everyone says this is going to bring violence and hatred and danger to the Haitians.

They aren't saying it. Haitians in Springfield are receiving bomb threats from MAGA supporters.

But Harris, Biden, you and everybody else on their side turns around and says Trump is the biggest danger in the face of this planet.

Biggest threat to democracy.

And then you feign surprise and say

"oh we're not connected to these attempts to kill him. Where would you get that idea?"

Exactly. It's a non-sequitur.

I doubt you are able to see any logic through your hat covered glasses.

Oh, I see your logic, but it isn't sound.

We have proof that Trump's remarks have had an effect on Haitians in Springfield, you have none that Harris's remarks have had on this would be assassin.

Are people better off now than you were 4 years ago?

?????

Listen, I grew up middle class. My father was a tenured professor at Stanford University. My mother was a biomedical scientist at UC Berkeley. Nobody knows middle class than this girl right here cackle.....

Just review this interview "eyes wide open" and looking into the mirror ask is Kamala Harris qualitied to become the 47th President of the US, November?

This extended interview is proof enough that Harris is terrifyingly out of her depth.

The critical race theory, the insistence that American education system must be compelled by law if need be, subject to necessity publicly self harm for historic grievances is so hideously self defeating.

I doubt you are able to see any logic through your hat covered glasses.

Because it's illogical. There's no connection between the shooter in the first assassination attempt. He wasn't Harris or Biden supporter, and he was also looking up Biden campaign rally events. It just happened that Trump was campaigning nearby.

https://apnews.com/article/fbi-trump-assassination-attempt-919bc3a7bba02f6e340fed321b20dfdd

The second guy clearly had some mental health issues.

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-election-09-15-24/index.html

Based on numerous “unusual rants” believed to be posted by Routh online regarding international geopolitical events, the source said federal investigators expect his mental health will be examined as part of court proceedings to determine whether he is fit for any trial. 

But yes, let's jump to conclusions and attack anyone critical of Trump and his authoritarian rhetoric.

Read this black.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/17/trump-uses-dangerous-rhetoric-more-often/

Kamala up in the polls. Wisconsin a near lock. Swing states swinging to Kamala, no doubt about it.

All the MAGA nonsense is catching up to their loss of votes, quickly. Hang on, MAGA, hang on. While your Titanic sinks.

asdfgtr

Today 08:32 am JST

@Antiquesaving,

> Harris and her cohorts spent years telling the people how Trump is the greatest evil since Hitler and Stalin,

> Can you provide an example of Kamala Harris stating this?

You need to read properly.

Harris and her cohorts

She never condemns her cohorts that has said he is Hitler Stalin etc..

She has said all the following and much more.

“the profound threat”

. “Understand what dictators do. Dictators jail journalists. Dictators suspend elections. Dictators take your rights.”

“witnessing a full on attack on hard-won, hard-fought freedoms and rights,”

And plenty more and the above was from one just one of her speeches.

But hey lets all pretend that calling Trump a danger to democracy and a dictator like she did and does has zero influence.

You really have to live in a Fantasy world to think all this constant "danger" " dictator" etc... has no impact.

She says these thing precisely because they have an impact.

And then she acts all surprised when someone takes it at face value and tries to kill Trump.

If she really believes her comments and those of her cohorts don't inspire people to do what these 2 men did, then she is one of the stupidest people on the planet.

We have proof that Trump's remarks have had an effect on Haitians in Springfield, you have none that Harris's remarks have had on this would be assassin.

Proof and truth have zero value in MAGA world of lies and deceit.

You really have to live in a Fantasy world to think all this constant "danger" " dictator" etc... has no impact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/17/trump-uses-dangerous-rhetoric-more-often/

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5112472/donald-trump-calls-president-biden-threat-democracy

Trump's rhetoric leads to bomb threats and school closures in Springfield.

As does Harris and shooters

There is no relation between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

I disagree

Proof and truth have zero value in MAGA world of lies and deceit.

I meant less than zero. Way less.

Sorry for the typo.

patkim

Today 08:38 am JST

There is no relation between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

> Good point. If anything, it's probably Trump's rhetoric that got those two people triggered

Next you'll be telling us the girls deserve to be raped because they dress slutty.

That's the logic you're using.

as a result bomb threats by rightwingers

phoned in hoaxes from “overseas”

At least Biden has been condemning the attempt on Trump's life, not snickering and joking about it the way Trump and fellow supporters laughed about the violent assault on Nancy Pelosi's husband by a deranged Trump supporter. They're such hypocrites!

Returning to this thread keynote bullet point......

Vice President Kamala Harris on Tuesday decried Republican Donald Trump for inflammatory rhetoric about migrants in Springfield, Ohio, and on other topics, saying voters should make sure he “can’t have that microphone again.”

Harris reply never for a moment focused on the underline root cause, a community of 60000 without any consolation over a period of 4 years had 20000 migrants thrust upon them without any recourse to a impact study, or a clear day one policy for housing, education health infrastructure.

Harris attacked fell back on the lowest common go to denominator defame attack Donald Trump.

Her job done.

did anyone attempt to murder Biden, twice, btw?

And Trump has only himself to blame for the attempts on his life because of his lies and rhetoric. Do you actually believe that these two pro-Trump people attended any of Harris' rallies and actually like Harris or Biden? More likely than not, they got tired of listening to Trump's lies.

Also, basically what you're implying is that Trump's life is worth more than the lives of residents in Ohio, since it's Trump's rhetoric that is endangering their lives. It's Trump which has caused the bomb threats, school closures, etc.

@Antiquesaving,

Harris and her cohorts spent years telling the people how Trump is the greatest evil since Hitler and Stalin

Still waiting for you to provide one example of Kamala Harris saying this.

Listen, I grew up middle class. My father was a tenured professor at Stanford University. My mother was a biomedical scientist at UC Berkeley. Nobody knows middle class than this girl right here cackle...

People really have a weird idea bout what kind of money a tenured professor or a biomedical scientists make, even if Stanford has an image of opulence, a tenured professor make in average 200k a year, a scientist at Berkeley not even half of that. 300k a year for a family of four is plenty enough, but it would not be a rich family.

DaDude

Today 08:48 am JST

Are people better off now than you were 4 years ago?

> ?????

> Listen, I grew up middle class. My father was a tenured professor at Stanford University. My mother was a biomedical scientist at UC Berkeley. Nobody knows middle class than this girl right here cackle.....

Which is hilarious considering she lived in Westmount in Montreal, a separate city of the richest people in the whole province then tried saying she was going to places in little burgundy one of the poorest to see the black culture there.

We called that rich slumming and laughed at these people.

I hung around in Little Burgundy and St Henry, didn't have a choice, my family didn't have the money to live elsewhere.

I saw her kind, the Westmount elite thinking how cut use poor people lived and played, then they would go back up the hill to their millions dollars homes.

asdfgtrToday  09:09 am JST

@Antiquesaving,

Harris and her cohorts spent years telling the people how Trump is the greatest evil since Hitler and Stalin

Still waiting for you to provide one example of Kamala Harris saying this.

You'll have more luck waiting for Godot.

people attended any of Harris' rallies and actually like Harris or Biden?

yes, based on his social media postings he is quite a fan.

as well as an “inconvenient” Biden-Harris 2024 bumper sticker on his truck.

and no, no one “deserves” to be assassinated for simply having a different vision for our country.

She says these thing precisely because they have an impact.

So you're basically agreeing that Trump's rhetoric also has an impact on the chaos going on in Ohio. You're also basically agreeing that Trump's speech was the cause of the Jan 6 insurrection. You also agree then that his rhetoric against Nancy Pelosi was the reason for the attack on her home and husband.

Antiquesaving

She has said all the following and much more.

“the profound threat”

. “Understand what dictators do. Dictators jail journalists. Dictators suspend elections. Dictators take your rights.”

“witnessing a full on attack on hard-won, hard-fought freedoms and rights,”

And plenty more and the above was from one just one of her speeches.

Yup. All solid and factual.

But hey lets all pretend that calling Trump a danger to democracy and a dictator like she did and does has zero influence.

Let's.

You really have to live in a Fantasy world to think all this constant "danger" " dictator" etc... has no impact.

What? I thought we were going to pretend that calling Trump a danger to democracy and a dictator like she did and does has zero influence?

Danger and dictator are not hateful words.

She says these thing precisely because they have an impact.

Nope. She says them because they are true.

And then she acts all surprised when someone takes it at face value and tries to kill Trump.

You have to try harder. Nobody is trying to kill Trump because they heard the words "danger" or "dictator"

If she really believes her comments and those of her cohorts don't inspire people to do what these 2 men did, then she is one of the stupidest people on the planet.

No need for ad hominem.

more than the lives of residents in Ohio, since it's Trump's rhetoric that is endangering their lives. It's Trump which has caused the bomb threats, school closures, etc.

Fake bomb hoaxes called in from overseas and school closings don’t endanger people’s lives.

not one migrant there has had anything at happen to them that wasn’t positive (free housing, free money, free geese)

Can you say the same about people with guns trying to shoot someone in the head?

At least Biden has been condemning the attempt on Trump's life, not snickering and joking about it the way

At least not in public

Trump and fellow supporters laughed about the violent assault on Nancy Pelosi's husband by a deranged Trump supporter.

No, they did not.

They're such hypocrites

Goes both ways

and no, no one “deserves” to be assassinated for simply having a different vision for our country.

You're right. He probably shouldn't have stoked the fires up to the point where crazies are trying to kill him from both sides.

There are good people on both sides though.

Listen, I grew up middle class. My father was a tenured professor at Stanford University. My mother was a biomedical scientist at UC Berkeley. Nobody knows middle class than this girl right here cackle.....Which is hilarious considering she lived in Westmount in Montreal, a separate city of the richest people in the whole province then tried saying she was going to places in little burgundy one of the poorest to see the black culture there.

Illogic, thy name is MAGA.

Using the academic accomplishments of immigrants parents to bring a middle class lifestyle as somehow 'elite'.

To pump up the multiple bankrupt scion of a racist slumlord who achieved notoriety by a terrible TV show and birther attacks on the first Black POTUS.

Weak.

not one migrant there has had anything at happen to them that wasn’t positive (free housing, free money, free geese)

I think "being concerned for your personal safety because JD Vance made up a story and openly admitted that it was false while justifying doing it" doesn't really count as positive.

Course you'd be dancing in the streets if one of the Haitian (or any other group you don't like) were to be hurt or killed as a result of those lies, but that's the kind of attitude that the US has to vote out in November.

Using the academic accomplishments of immigrants parents to bring a middle class lifestyle as somehow 'elite'. 

It’s not?

To pump up the multiple bankrupt scion of a racist slumlord who achieved notoriety by a terrible TV show and birther attacks on the first Black POTUS. 

I think that last point was reflective and weak, don’t do that. Lol

bass4funk

Trump's rhetoric leads to bomb threats and school closures in Springfield.

As does Harris and shooters

Nope. We can prove that Trump's rhetoric has directly led to bomb threats. You can't prove that the shooters were influence by Harris.

There is no relation between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

I disagree

Sure. Then present your evidence.

Were no bombs found, just hoax calls from overseas= fake

The bomb threats were real. That's why they cancelled school, closed government offices, and canceled a cultural festival there. The consequences were very real. The "Haitians are eating cats" was the only thing that was fake. Pathetic.

Sure. Then present your evidence.

Save your breath. I can present his evidence: "LOL"

The bomb threats were real. 

there were no bombs. So no threat. Doesn’t count.

kinda like, the shooter didn’t even have a line of sight and didn’t actually get off a shot so doesn’t really count, right?

Trump's rhetoric leads to bomb threats and school closures in Springfield.

As does Harris and shooters

Nope.

I disagree

We can prove that Trump's rhetoric has directly led to bomb threats. You can't prove that the shooters were influence by Harris.

As can we prove the same

There is no relation between Harris's rhetoric and the assassins.

I disagree

Sure. Then present your evidence.

I did already

You can't prove that the shooters were influence by Harris.

Biden-harris 2024 sticker on his truck. He’s a fan.

Blacklabel

more than the lives of residents in Ohio, since it's Trump's rhetoric that is endangering their lives. It's Trump which has caused the bomb threats, school closures, etc.

Fake bomb hoaxes called in from overseas and school closings don’t endanger people’s lives.

Oh, they do. Over 33 bomb threats have forced lockdowns at government buildings, hospitals and schools. There are marches by neo-Nazis Haitians do not feel safe in Springfield anymore.

Trump and Vance have refused to denounce the hate and threats of violence and bombings they unleashed.

Biden-harris 2024 sticker on his truck. He’s a fan.

That settles it. The bumper sticker means it's Kamala Harris' fault. reeeeee

there were no bombs. So no threat. Doesn’t count.

Doesn't count? Tell that to the kids who can't go to school. The office workers who fear for their lives for simply going to the office, or the residents who now can't attend the cultural festival they were looking forward to. Tell them that doesn't count.

kinda like, the shooter didn’t even have a line of sight and didn’t actually get off a shot so doesn’t really count, right?

Wrong. Not even remotely the same.

Trump and Vance have refused to denounce the hate and threats of violence and bombings they unleashed.

How did they unleash hoax calls from overseas?

How did they unleash hoax calls from overseas?

How do you know they came from overseas? Weird how they didn't kick up until Vance and Trump started lying about Haitian immigrants.

The next US President, number 47, will have to face unprecedented global challenge, the Ukraine war with media reports that Putin is being lobbied to make an extreme "nuclear" event.

In the middle east weaponised "pagers", the continuing Hamas, Israel, Iran war, now in danger through this US government dithering fence sitting.

A inexecutable, inexplicable, inexcusable diplomatic push me pull you policy of poke and hope.

Kamala Harris actions, inactions, clear evidence in the appalling optics, visible day one Afghanistan withdrawal,

The last person in the room.

All must ask held accountable, this "interview" must be the Harris "swansong"

November 5th slam the lid shut on the Harris pandora box. .

OH Governor DeWine stated in a press conference, in reply to reporter's questions, that the majority of calls came from overseas, and one country, which he didn't/couldn't identify.

We need public disclosure on this.

Again, let's not forget that Vance himself had admitted to "creating these stories". Yet, they won't back down or tone down the harmful rhetoric. It's sometimes even hilarious. Like when they comment that "Biden is losing it" when he was caught on camera wearing a MAGA hat when having a nice friendly exchange with some Trump supporters. Wow! Trump supporters are so appalled that Biden is wearing their own hat. They can't even say anything positive about a positive situation.

Blacklabel

Trump and Vance have refused to denounce the hate and threats of violence and bombings they unleashed.

How did they unleash hoax calls from overseas?

By telling millions watching the debate that Haitians are eating cats and dogs, a racist trope. JD Vance doubled down on it.

Gonna be a lot of devastated leftists in about a month and a half once the manufactured “enthusiasm” for Kamala is finally exposed at the polls by actual voters.

Gonna be a lot of devastated leftists in about a month and a half once the manufactured “enthusiasm” for Kamala is finally exposed at the polls by actual voters.

Quick, change the subject!

Yes, I'm sure this prediction will become just as true as all the other ones.

Let's face it, most Americans don't like racist bigots.

How do you know they came from overseas?

the results of the investigation that were announced said so.

Please keep showing everyone who racist and nasty the average Trump fan is.

Oh so I’m nasty and racist for showing you the truth? Sorry you are so disappointed about being wrong that you feel the need to lash out. Seems you would be used to being wrong by now.

"Asked whether Americans are better off today than four years ago when she and President Joe Biden entered office, Harris did not directly answer the question, "

Yeah, not answering the question is a pretty clear answer in itself.

The bomb threats were real. 

there were no bombs. So no threat. Doesn’t count.

kinda like, the shooter didn’t even have a line of sight and didn’t actually get off a shot so doesn’t really count, right?

Wow. That’s weak.

Vance collapsing into a gibbering mess after being unable to back up the immigrants eating pets idea was a disgrace.

Trump is the master of making people humiliate and debase themselves by attempting to defend or excuse his ridiculous, false and infantile rants.

Now he has a junior partner.

This is cruelty.

At least Biden has been condemning the attempt on Trump's life, not snickering and joking about it the way 

At least not in public

Which is something called “decorum.” (Look it up in a dictionary.)

So you have some inside info about what he’s saying in private?

"Harris doesn't do gaslighting."

All right then, if you say so, lol.

" that Trump is the greatest threat to America........True."

Yes, its all DOOM and end of the civilization with the scary orange man and yet America did just fine when he was POTUS. The sky didn't fall in.

Yes, its all DOOM and end of the civilization with the scary orange man and yet America did just fine when he was POTUS. The sky didn't fall in.

He got fired by the electorate after 4 years.

A one-term failure.

Not an indicator that the electorate thought the US was doing fine.

Harris is slicing and dicing Trump up like a Thanksgiving turkey - a somewhat accurate metaphor...

Every day brings some new beyond insane comment or allegation - all in an attempt to stem the downward spiral....and it ain't working....

Instead, moderate Repubs and independents look at him and JD and are repelled in disgust...

And all our MAGA-friends here can do is fall back on their usual empty faux bluster...

It's a clear admission they know the end is near...and no matter how much they protest now, will all be on-board the Nikki Haley train once Trump completes his complete implosion - likely in a few weeks....

"Kamala up in the polls. Wisconsin a near lock. Swing states swinging to Kamala, no doubt about it."

Good news then. Maybe that will help stop any more assassination attempts on Trump's life.

Best interview ever. Showed her in her best light. DT must be quaking in his boots.

burgers and beers

" that Trump is the greatest threat to America........True."

Yes, its all DOOM and end of the civilization with the scary orange man and yet America did just fine when he was POTUS. The sky didn't fall in.

Well he did try to steal the election. There is that. Then he got indicted for it.

the volume of rhetoric by politicians pales in comparison to the rhetoric of some, spending uncountable days out of their lives and energy relentlessly rehashing the same stuff over and over. and not changing a single mind.

like an obsessive hobby, like golfers!

"Yes, its all DOOM and end of the civilization with the scary orange man and yet America did just fine when he was POTUS. The sky didn't fall in..............He got fired by the electorate after 4 years .A one-term failure. Not an indicator that the electorate thought the US was doing fine."

If the electorate feels that way, then they will not vote Trump in come November. All will be good, simples. No need for such divisive doom and gloom "fascist dictator, danger to the US " radical one liners. If Trump was such a clear one term failure then surely he has no chance. Radical left should dial down the rhetoric, two assassination attempts were enough, most would think.

Yes, commentators we to do a "Harris",

Not so much as hint of sarcasm, we all must turn that page, that is designed to divide us, you cannot have that microphone again.

If the electorate feels that way, then they will not vote Trump in come November.

And that will be the end of that, no protests, no calls of "rigged", no blatant calls for civil unrest, no attacks on the lawfully elected president, no militias marching armed through the streets. I'm sure Trump will take his defeat with the same maturity and grace he showed last time.

(cue the Wayne's World theme) ...NOT!

Obvious attempted insurrection is obvious threat to democracy which is obvious to everyone but the enemies of the U.S.

burgers and beers

"Yes, its all DOOM and end of the civilization with the scary orange man and yet America did just fine when he was POTUS. The sky didn't fall in..............He got fired by the electorate after 4 years .A one-term failure. Not an indicator that the electorate thought the US was doing fine."

If the electorate feels that way, then they will not vote Trump in come November. All will be good, simples.

Yep. The answer is at the ballot box.

No need for such divisive doom and gloom "fascist dictator, danger to the US " radical one liners.

Plenty of need. That's how we get people to the ballot box.

If Trump was such a clear one term failure then surely he has no chance.

There is plenty of chance. People have bad memories. People aren't rational.

Radical left should dial down the rhetoric,

Nope. Dial it up. This is important.

two assassination attempts were enough, most would think.

two assassination attempts that have nothing to do with what Dem's are saying.

And that will be the end of that, no protests, no calls of "rigged", no blatant calls for civil unrest, no attacks on the lawfully elected president, no militias marching armed through the streets. I'm sure Trump will take his defeat with the same maturity and grace he showed last time.

That left crystal ball sounds very doomy, gloomy and apocalyptic. I'd wager US will be just fine after November.

"Obvious attempted insurrection is obvious threat to democracy which is obvious to everyone but the enemies of the U.S."

So are obvious assassination attempts on a presidential candidate...twice in a couple of months. Obvious to everyone, obviously.

@wallace

The latest assassination attempt on Trump is not considered to be one because the assassin didn't fire a shot.

Wasn’t it you, the last time there was an attempt on Trump’s life, desperately trying to mislead us that Trump was hit by flying glass and not a bullet? As if THAT - even if it was true which it was not - would somehow render it not an assassination attempt.

You remind me of why I left the “progressives”.

burgers and beersToday  11:14 am JST

And that will be the end of that, no protests, no calls of "rigged", no blatant calls for civil unrest, no attacks on the lawfully elected president, no militias marching armed through the streets. I'm sure Trump will take his defeat with the same maturity and grace he showed last time.

That left crystal ball sounds very doomy, gloomy and apocalyptic. I'd wager US will be just fine after November.

I'm not American, so I can't even vote. Your "left" and "right" don't apply. If I could vote, I'd vote democrat because I'm not a small-minded, bigoted, afraid, small person, but that's a moot point. We all saw what happened when Trump lost the election fair and square to Biden. The MAGA types can lie, deny, gaslight, do all that, but thanks to the power of recording media, we have first hand evidence of what happened when he got his considerable posterior handed to him by Biden. Why should we not at least consider the possibility that he'll try it again?

"Yep. The answer is at the ballot box. "

I agree.

"No need for such divisive doom and gloom "fascist dictator, danger to the US " radical one liners..........Plenty of need. That's how we get people to the ballot box."

Those radical one liners lead to some individuals trying to assassinate a candidate.

"If Trump was such a clear one term failure then surely he has no chance......There is plenty of chance. People have bad memories. People aren't rational."

Have more faith in the US voters. I think most Americans are rational.

"Radical left should dial down the rhetoric,.....Nope. Dial it up. This is important."

Nope. Radical rhetoric is dangerous. It leads to assassination attempts. Dangerous to democracy. Quite obvious.

"two assassination attempts that have nothing to do with what Dem's are saying."

Wrong. Everything to do with it. Obviously.

burgers and beersToday 11:27 am JST

Wrong. Everything to do with it. Obviously.

You'd have slightly more credibility convincing us about threats to democracy if you weren't a clear mouthpiece for Putin.

burgers and beers

"Yep. The answer is at the ballot box. "

I agree.

"No need for such divisive doom and gloom "fascist dictator, danger to the US " radical one liners..........Plenty of need. That's how we get people to the ballot box."

Those radical one liners lead to some individuals trying to assassinate a candidate.

No, they did not. But if you really think they did, provide some definitive proof.

"If Trump was such a clear one term failure then surely he has no chance......There is plenty of chance. People have bad memories. People aren't rational."

Have more faith in the US voters. I think most Americans are rational.

Yeah, right! 40% support Trump.

"Radical left should dial down the rhetoric,.....Nope. Dial it up. This is important."

Nope. Radical rhetoric is dangerous.

Who said anything about "Radical rhetoric"?

The current rhetoric about Trump being a danger to democracy is not dangerous. Trump uses the same rhetoric against Harris all the time, and nobody has tried to assassinate her.

It leads to assassination attempts.

Nope.

Dangerous to democracy.

"two assassination attempts that have nothing to do with what Dem's are saying."

Wrong. Everything to do with it. Obviously.

So, prove it then.

Toblerone

The latest assassination attempt on Trump is not considered to be one because the assassin didn't fire a shot.

Wasn’t it you, the last time there was an attempt on Trump’s life, desperately trying to mislead us that Trump was hit by flying glass and not a bullet? As if THAT - even if it was true which it was not - would somehow render it not an assassination attempt.

You are not correct. I asked a question. Anyone can do that. Was Trump hit by a bullet or a shard of glass? There was nothing wrong with my question.

You remind me of why I left the “progressives”.

Who are they?

 "Why should we not at least consider the possibility that he'll try it again?"

Sure it is possible. But I'd still wager the US will be just fine after November. Especially if it turns out to be a clear landslide for Kamala as some experts on here predict.

Harris should continue to highlight the clear threat to democracy that fascists like Trump represent.

"Wrong. Everything to do with it. Obviously......You'd have slightly more credibility convincing us about threats to democracy if you weren't a clear mouthpiece for Putin."

You don't think assassination attempts on presidential candidates are threats to democracy? When it happens in Putin's Russia they are but when they happen in the US they are not? I and most people would say assassination attempts are a threat to democracy wherever they happen. Is that wrong?

And now, it turns out, Vance admitted that he made up the eating cats and dogs story.

It also turns out that all those resultant "bomb threats" were a hoax...each and every one of them

Wise to avoid defending or excusing Vance’s meltdown after being exposed as pathetically dishonest.

’Everyone knows’ how ridiculous they sound.