Harry’s claim he killed 25 in Afghanistan draws anger, worry

Although I have been to these places, it was not as a Combatant…I know plenty who were. Unless you’re someone like harry, you’re never going to mention something such as this, most just want to forget.

Even US Navy Seals have revealed some of their exploits so I'm cutting Harry some slack.

Is Harry being Manipulated by the Evil American divorcee - a money grabbing, attention seeking, actress who has as many faces as roles previously taken ?

Heard that said before, not sure what to believe. Culturally, the US is quite different from the UK - especially in the art of "fake-openness", as typified by the "Oprah"-act.

Burning bridges leaves no way back, and when you've exhausted all that can be said, what next ?

I sadly predict, that "Price" Harry will be subjected to a currently unrevealed scandal, then divorced, and left penniless/destitute in future - perhaps even thrown under the bus like Andrew was.... maybe we will see Afghan women coming out and claiming rape/pillaging... who knows ?

Ex-colonel Tim Collins said: "That's not how you behave in the Army; it's not how we think. 

"He has badly let the side down. We don't do notches on the rifle butt. We never did."

He also accused Prince Harry of "pursuing riches he does not need".

Another serviceman still serving told the BBC Harry's comments were "very unsoldier-like".

More often it is those who write books who seem to take more of an interest in their kill statistics.

So firstly he disrespects his birth family, then he disrespects his military one.

Shows how deluded and mentally-unbalanced he is, when stating his tally of 25 Taliban deaths - it's like he's just signed his own death-warrant, as there are bound to be a line of candidates waiting to take their revenge.

As for other tittle-tattle featured, he's certainly taking the Pulitzer-prize this year for the special-category of Cringeworthiness. It's as though he's had a ghost-writer prompting him from beyond the grave to recall all of the terrible things which happened to his mother during her brief life.

@WA4TKG - https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=851067 ?

Caution would be advised.

Even US Navy Seals have revealed some of their exploits so I'm cutting Harry some slack.

Is that after they showed their back to the Taliban?

Sounds like people here support the Taliban...

Be careful what you say and where you say it, careless talk costs lives..

https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/be-careful-what-you-say-where-you-say-it-careless-talk-costs-lives/NgF6bV34HQ298w?hl=en

Harry has gone a step further and subjected all his inner demons to print and interviews.

I have been able to cancel my copy of Spare. The credit card company confirmed, as I mailed the on-line store.

I found a local recycler that could have recycled spare into roll/s of toilet paper

This guy has problems. The Royal Family is better off without him.

And yesterday we found out he wrote:

"He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me,"

So I say again he the military guy gets his butt kicked by his brother that is everything ceremonial.

This guy is brainwashed by the wife no wonder "#ShuUpHarry" has been so popular.

He also blamed William and Kate for his wearing the Nazi uniform, claiming they told him to.

He blames everyone and clearly has both and inferiority complex and under Meghan's control.

He also blamed William and Kate for his wearing the Nazi uniform, claiming they told him to.

He blames everyone and clearly has both and inferiority complex and under Meghan's control.

Agree 100%. As for the Nazi Uniform, he has actually said that William and Kate "made" him wear it. I'm sure William and Kate did not put a gun to his head and say "wear a Nazi Uniform".

OK, so HRH.H appears to have violated the cozy omerta of the military by confessing that he did what he was trained for and sent there to do (and got his chestful of medals to prove it). He just reminded everyone that war is a very dirty, shameful business whether as a lowly combatant or higher up the totem pole of evil as warmongers and war-profiteers, but let's not get carried away by faux indignation over spilling blood. After all, it's not like he sank the Belgrano or started the Iraq War, two other well-publicized deeds of "derring-do" with body counts that didn't faze the powers-that-be.

OK, so HRH.H appears to have violated the cozy omerta of the military by confessing

He isn't "confessing" he is bragging!

But the 10 years in the military to then get his butt kicked by William shows how little he learned and how "protected" from reality!

He thinks he is in America and guns and being tough is seen as cool so that's what he writes

Yeah he thinks it makes him look cool. Hint: It doesn’t. All life is sacred and if it has to be taken it should be with sorrow.

not to sell books and pretend to be something you aren’t. Meghan probably beat him up too just like William did.

Antiquesaving---good point. I definitely would put my money on Harry versus William on a normal day. Maybe he was holding back?

I don't mind his bragging though on this matter. Enough time has passed by since the incidents.

Ohhh look at me, I am "royal" and I killed people in Afghanistan, now I am famous and I write books, buy it !!..

He was a member of an invading army murdering…sorry, "eliminating" people who were fighting to protect their homes and families but for some reason he considers himself one of the '"goodies" whereas they are the "baddies"

Damn! Harry sounds like a real Rambo!

Harry had two tours in Afghanistan. First as a forward air controller in air raids from 2007 to 2008, then flying Apache attack helicopters in 2012 and 2013. He served 10 years in the British military, rising to the rank of captain.

He is revealing info to the public that really should be confined to sessions with his therapist.

What ever Harry, whatever....

War is such fun when your side has uncontested air-superiority, almost like a video game, eh Harry?

Wow, aren’t you clever…except I live in the Middle East now (again) you’re welcome to go by there and see what you get.

It sounds almost as if Henry/Harry/Harold is boasting about his kills, in a perverse grasp for sympathy. It has backfired. He clearly has mental problems. Every day it seems he comes out with new, shocking tales.

What this admission has done is put a huge price on his head - as well as Megan and their children. I hope they have a massive, heavily armed 24/7 security team over there in California.

Willy bwoke my necklace! The best thing we can do with this ninny is to ignore him and hope he goes away.

Anyone who has watched official, public release videos of the engagements by US Army Apaches or USAF AC-130 Spectra gunships has seen more "baddies" die in a single engagement than the 25 his majesty claims to have killed.

Here is an example. Note the quality of the sensor feed to the pilots, which can be relayed in real time to a battlefield commander.

https://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/air-strikes/2-apaches-engage-taliban-platoon/1741618611001

Brag brag brag! Looka me! I killed 25 Taliban and I even have the scalps (or trophy skulls) to prove it! This is more than a chess game, it's just like video games - yippee! Ain't war fun?

Read all about it, boys and girls! Read my book and you can be a STAR like meeeeeeee.......

What do you expect from an uncool nerd who wears a Nazi uniform at a Halloween party and thinks it's 'funny'? Nazis tried to overthrow the UK with their Luftkrieg in WW2. Didn't this idiot learn anything in history class?

BlacklabelToday  09:56 am JST

Yeah he thinks it makes him look cool. Hint: It doesn’t. All life is sacred and if it has to be taken it should be with sorrow.

War ain't fun. Read what US Grant, Ike Eisenhower, John McCain and others wrote.

'Wars do not make one great' - YODA in 'The Empire Strikes Back'.

Can the macho crap, ex-Princey-poo. Just go away and shut up. Be gone.

he considers himself one of the '"goodies" whereas they are the "baddies"

Little kiddie talk here. Ooooh, I'm impressed. NOT.

itsonlyrocknrollToday  08:54 am JST

Be careful what you say and where you say it, careless talk costs lives..

I have been able to cancel my copy of Spare. The credit card company confirmed, as I mailed the on-line store.

I found a local recycler that could have recycled spare into roll/s of toilet paper

It's probably just a blowhard piece of pulp. Hell, it may have been ghost-written for all we know. Just like Sarah Palin's 'Faith, Flag, Family' got marked down to $1 at a local Kroger store, want to bet just how this book meets the same fate? Recycle trash!

As things stand now, the King can remove HRH and Prince/Princess, but not Duke and Duchess. Only Parliament can remove the peerage.

If someone is trying to kill my guys or me, I'm going to try to kill them back first.

Dad was a FAC, but he never talked about it. All we have are a few photos from the time. Most on the ground, but some from the cockpit of his birddog.

Note three other things in that video I posted. When one pilot saw kids he told everyone not to shoot close to the tents to avoid harming noncombatants. Number two they discussed the weapons the men they engaged were carrying. They were not shooting unarmed people but foot soldiers carrying weapons ( remember when one pilots confirmed they had RPGs, "belf fed" meaning heavy machine guns that use belt fed ammunition and small arms). Last the pilot asked the ground commander if he had any solos. The pilot didn't want to shoot at a target if it might be a friendly soldier. Once the US ground commander confirmed none of his troops were alone, the pilot was free to engage.

Also did you notice a number of times at the bottom of the HUD display were the words "Yaw Limit" and "Roll Limit". While the FLIR (Forward Looking InfraRed) is gyrostabilized the pilot was flying the living daylights out of that helo in the dark using night vision goggles to bring their weapons to bear on the enemy, and the co-pilot was using the FLIR to find and engage targets. Also did you catch how high up the helos were as they switched magnification on the FLIR. The optics are so powerful they don't have to go very low to clearly see events on the ground.

So when you read IS and AQ propaganda about the US shooting up a "wedding party", well, what "wedding parties" are attended only by men with RPGs, machine guns and small arms? You saw and heard how they fight. They are not shooting up wedding parties but too many who have never themselves served and who are too often cynical because they think it's cool fall for the lies the terrorists tell the world and just assume the NATO and US pilots are uncaring killers.

After all, it's not like he sank the Belgrano or started the Iraq War, two other well-publicized deeds of "derring-do" with body counts that didn't faze the powers-that-be.

you forgot that he also didn’t invade a neighbouring country & commit war crimes

I am struggling with the Duke of Sussex Harry motivation for such a nasty, deeply unpleasant distasteful in many respects diatribe aimed at his Family.

Harry will have to live with himself for such a public verbal flailing of his closest kith and kin.

Money? The millions aren’t to be sniffed at, justifies such an act of betrayal?   

Correct me if I am wrong, I understand his HRH title was relinquished when he stood down as a working Royal.

The Royal Family has a clear line of succession, did Harry in the depths of magic mushroom bin chatting believe that it was the brother who reached the throne when the music stopped, moved up the pecking order?

Sorry, all that expensive elite education, the privilege, the entitlement, 99% of the great unwashed can only dream of, amounts to snivelling acts of betrayal? 

I suppose any Apache helicopter co-pilot gunner armed with a 30 mm cannon is going to be expected to shoot the enemy.

It's Harrys dismissive tone and matter of taking life, Harrys disregard, that spits in the face the fact human lives are inherently valuable

IS and AQ propaganda about the US shooting up a "wedding party", well, what "wedding parties" are attended only by men with RPGs, machine guns and small arms

So the Wech Baghtu wedding airstrikes were IS propaganda? How about Haska Meyna wedding airstrikes?

Both took the lives of a number of women and children and both events happened in 2008 when IS didn't exist.

And BTW, celebratory firing during weddings or even sports victories are common in that part of the world, and in both cases the Americans mistakenly thought that their helicopters were being fired upon.

The US does have an expertise in shooting up weddings in 'that' part of the world though.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/us-has-bombed-least-eight-wedding-parties-2001/tnamp/

The US does have an expertise in shooting up weddings in 'that' part of the world though.

Your link is exactly the kind of propaganda I am talking about. Just a bunch of unsupported claims, and they are lies. Let's see the video feed of the attack. There will be one. In fact, before any UAS can launch a weapon on a target that target has to be confirmed as a legitimate military target by military officers and a legal team has to say go before the UAS operator can engage the target. The people back at the base operating the drone (most often this is Creech Air Force Base north of Las Vegas) have a real time video feed from the sensors on the UAS they are viewing in order to make these decisions. They are looking at what the drone detects in real time to decide if the target is legitimate or not. All your link did was regurgitate the allegations from Arab terrorists.

But obtw, did you notice in the video I posted of the Apache operation that armed enemy combatants were living in tents with their families? That would be like a US Army member living in a tent in combat zone with his wife and kids. But you saw it yourself, women and children ran from one of those tents and the US Army pilot got on the radio and told the other Apaches there were noncombatants in the tents so don't shoot close to them. That is the reality, not the propaganda you posted.

And BTW, celebratory firing during weddings or even sports victories are common in that part of the world, and in both cases the Americans mistakenly thought that their helicopters were being fired upon.

They were being fired on. It was not mistaken. It was a war zone and fire was directed at US helicopters. The idiots on the ground knew this and fired anyway. I was a military helicopter pilot and darned if I would not have returned fire if someone was shooting weapons in my direction. I don't have an ounce of sympathy for them.

@DT

In both the incidents I mentioned, the casualties were mostly women and children.

It's even understandable if the narrative that you are trying to subscribe to is that the terrorists were attending weddings and the civilians were collateral damage. But what you are saying is that your side can do no wrong, and that's why I take the rest of your arguments with a pinch of salt.

It's Harrys dismissive tone and matter of taking life, Harrys disregard, that spits in the face the fact human lives are inherently valuable

He was in the military and had a job to do. Others were depending on him to do that job. Some distance is required to do it. Part of that distance is required for sanity.

Every life matters to someone. We all know this.

There's no doubt that in every war, innocent people are killed. There's also no doubt that each side will try to show any mistakes as propaganda against the other side ... well, except Russia. They don't even bother anymore.