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Don’t worry, Japan’s got this. It’s not as if Japan is letting possibly infected people walk around. Even if they are, everyone’s wearing dusk masks, which we all know stops microscopic particles, so there is no problem.

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I would have spastic claustrophobia in that last picture! Considering that the risk seems between a cold and the flu, as opposed to Ebola and Marburg, it may seem an overreaction.

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Good one Chip Star!

Guess you typed this in sarcasm mode.

In this case I fully agree with you.

But they will keep on telling us that it's no problem, that we should stay at home, stop working (at least for the most of us in this case) and get a decent salary provided by the all-mighty government.

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Pandemic Epidemic Endemic

Take 2 minutes of your time to learn from this BBC clip

Coronavirus: What are viruses? And how do they spread?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-51224894/coronavirus-what-are-viruses-and-how-do-they-spread

The London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine's Dr Rosalind Eggo explains how that can happen.

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I am not surprised at the appearance of untraceable clusters. It has been suggested that the incubation period for the disease may be as long as 24 days. This means that people could be infected for as long as 3 weeks and not know it. Take everyone they have come into contact with or has touched a surface they have touched, and tracking the source must be nothing short of impossible.

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The problem is Japan and Japanese people see every problem like the coronavirus facing Japan as the foreign threat. They believe by staying away from foreigners, they will be safe. It is same way they view STIs! We all know Japanese people don't have STIs (sarcasm)! Therefore, they are going to let possibly infected Japanese people walk around sharing it with others, while the population will continue to blame all foreigners if this gets worse. People with no symptoms can also infect others apparently!

I do like many think this outbreak is mostly China's fault. However, all negative views that Japan has for the Chinese will reverberate back to them during this situation.

The irony for Japanese people and their view of the Chinese is that outside of Asia to a large number of uninformed people around the world all asians are Chinese!

Sad but true!

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NumanToday  06:17 pm JST

I do like many think this outbreak is mostly China's fault. However, all negative views that Japan has for the Chinese will reverberate back to them during this situation.

Don't know where you're digging this up from. Any negative views of China that Japanese have right now is dwarfed by nations outside of Japan,

"What's spreading faster than coronavirus in the US? Racist assaults and ignorant attacks against Asians"

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html

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“Although the window of opportunity is narrowing to contain the outbreak, we still have a chance to contain it," said WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

Pure delusion or the voicing of delusion to try and gain some sort of profit. And cannot be contained and in fact, has been free from some time now. But its still not a zombie plague. What else is going on in the world right now? Are we just being distracted?

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No new cases in the US yet

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I would have spastic claustrophobia in that last picture! Considering that the risk seems between a cold and the flu, as opposed to Ebola and Marburg, it may seem an overreaction.

The risk for health workers, due to the increased possibility of exposure, and increased chance of coming into contact with a super-spreader, is being infected, falling ill, and then dying.

Perhaps you're made of sterner stuff, but they are expected in a crisis like this to stay at their post and do whatever needs to be done. The have to deal with additional stress, fear, and exhaustion. Many of them are already dedicated to doing their best for people, and give a lot up to do that. Some of them might be able to stack up a nice few hours' worth of overtime pay every week - at what, 1.5 times their regular hourly rate? Double? And you can be damn sure that some won't, and will be giving that extra time for free.

Putting yourself in their position, if you were a nurse, what price per hour would you put on your own life? I'll bet it would come out a lot higher than what nurses are actually paid for actually taking that risk. And I'll bet some of them are years younger than you, but they're still putting their life on the line.

In the SARS epidemic in 2003, for all the focus that was put on Hong Kong, they ultimately recorded a total of 1,755 cases over several months between February 21 and around 6 June. That's not very many in a city of 7 million people. But hospitals were under massive strain, there was a struggle to maintain adequate supplies of protective equipment, and 8 health workers, including doctors, died of SARS. Apart from the human tragedy, it's catastrophic when you start losing trained professionals.

Here's a glimpse of the problem elsewhere: "Globally, 20 per cent of confirmed SARS cases were health-care workers. In Canada, health-care workers made up 43 per cent of SARS cases."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/ten-years-later-sars-still-haunts-survivors-and-health-care-workers/article9363178/

Carlo Urbani identified what he saw in a patient he had been called to see in Hanoi as a new (and at the time unnamed) disease, and notified the Vietnamese authorities and the WHO about the danger. He was also infected with the disease, which he realized when he developed symptoms on the way to Bangkok. He was hospitalized immediately, and died 18 days later. 46 years old. At the time of SARS, many people said what you say, "the risk seems between a cold and the flu". That was untrue then, and it's untrue now.

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Don't know where you're digging this up from. Any negative views of China that Japanese have right now is dwarfed by nations outside of Japan,

You don’t really think this defeats the argument that Japanese hatred towards Chinese will backfire in the Japanese, do you? Anyone else see the glaring logic failure here?

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There is no "Japanese hatred" for the Chinese, they have been their best customer for a decade. Fear of COVID19 should not be confused with "hatred". Japan has sent medical supplies to China even in the face of shortages in their own country and China has expressed gratitude. So there's nothing to "backfire".

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@Ossan

Don't know where you're digging this up from. Any negative views of China that Japanese have right now is dwarfed by nations outside of Japan,

Tokyo ramen shop owner sets “Japanese only” rule as countermeasure against coronavirus

https://soranews24.com/2020/02/22/tokyo-ramen-shop-owner-sets-japanese-only-rule-as-countermeasure-against-coronavirus/

Japanese candy shop bans all Chinese customers over coronavirus fears

https://soranews24.com/2020/01/23/japanese-candy-shop-bans-all-chinese-customers-over-coronavirus-fears/

You don’t really think this defeats the argument that Japanese hatred towards Chinese will backfire in the Japanese, do you? Anyone else see the glaring logic failure here?

@Chip, I know, right! The irony is Ossan just made my point:

"What's spreading faster than coronavirus in the US? Racist assaults and ignorant attacks against Asians"

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html

Talking about other countries are doing it worse doesn't change the fact about what Japan is doing or that it will reverberate back.

Like I said, "All Asians are now being seen as Chinese to the uninformed!"

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