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Heavy fighting rages near main Gaza hospital; people trapped inside say they cannot flee

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By WAFAA SHURAFA and SAMY MAGDY

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A day after Netanyahu said Israel was bringing its “full force” with the aim of ending Hamas’ 16-year rule in Gaza,

Instead of supporting Hamas, people should be taking up Israel on its humane offer to evacuate.

Israel will not stop until it has eradicated Hamas and its supporters, whatever it takes.

This is the result of Hamas murdering over 1200 civilians, kidnapping over 200, including babies, and blowing up hospitals in Gaza.

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Believing an Israeli regime claim is like believing a Trump claim. Note that the only major human rights organization that doesn't state that the Israeli regime was perpetrating the Crime Against Humanity defined by the ICSPCA on January 1st is now considering Jewish groups calling for the Israeli regime to quit killing civilians to be Antisemitic.

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Believing an Israeli regime claim is like believing a Trump claim.

Not sure what that means since both have legitimate claims.

Instead of supporting Hamas, people should be taking up Israel on its humane offer to evacuate.

Absolutely.

Israel will not stop until it has eradicated Hamas and its supporters, whatever it takes.

It would be stupid for them at this point to call for a ceasefire.

This is the result of Hamas murdering over 1200 civilians, kidnapping over 200, including babies, and blowing up hospitals in Gaza.

Spot on. Once Hamas did that diabolical act on 10/7 that is when they officially sealed their own fates.

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Israel reduced the number of Hamas victims from 1400 to 1200.

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11,000 dead Arabs.

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Tony Blair: ‘We were wrong to boycott Hamas after its election win’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/14/tony-blair-hamas-gaza-boycott-wrong

Tony Blair only looks after Tony Blair, his support of George W Bush war in Iraq, failure to fully account for the aftermath, 150,000–1,033,000 fatalities is testament enough that to involve Blair as a “humanitarian coordinator” would be a truly shocking error of Judgment.

The only body capable to act independently, to create trust is the United Nations.

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My stake as an American ,their is no law in America,that you have to support America lost causes as a citizen

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There is no hope of any compromise to the Government of Israel, two key objectives,

Quote..... Israel wishes to strip Hamas of its organizational and military capabilities, but at the same time wants to create the conditions for releasing the civilians and soldiers held captive by Hamas.

These Objectives could take some considerable time to realize, if at all.

Gaza future is another political diplomatic insurmountable hurdle. with all the ramifications to the region, middle east.

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Israel to retain overall security control after any conflict “with the ability to go in whenever we want in order to kill terrorists”.

“There will be no Hamas. There will be no civilian authority that educates their children to hate Israel, to kill Israelis, to destroy the state of Israel. There can’t be an authority there that pays the families of murderers. There needs to be something else there,”

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11,000 dead Arabs.

A week ago a senior Israeli security official claimed a kill number of 20,000 Palestinians from air strikes.

Believing an Israeli regime claim is like believing a Trump claim.

The fog of war, innit? But at least it has by now been confirmed that 1 Arab life = 1 Israeli life does not compute (unless you believe what the Netanyahu government and its Western allies want us all to think).

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The people of Gaza should go out fighting,if you gonna be killed by Isrealis,you should mount a resistance,and at least die fighting

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The people of Gaza should go out fighting,if you gonna be killed by Isrealis,you should mount a resistance,and at least die fighting

They're only good at surprise attacks, when the fight gets taken to them suddenly they're too chicken.

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They're only good at surprise attacks, when the fight gets taken to them suddenly they're too chicken

America said the same thing in Afghanistan.

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My stake as an American ,their is no law in America,that you have to support America lost causes as a citizen

Boom. Their it is!!!

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Did anyone else notice the street name on the third photo with the Bring them home mural?

"Weizmann" translates to White man in English.

Is it normal to have a German street name in Israel?

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Israel’s military asserted it placed 300 liters (634 pints) of fuel near Shifa overnight for an emergency generator for incubators for premature babies and coordinated the delivery with hospital officials. “Sadly, they haven’t taken the fuel yet,”

The world watches as the Arabs continue to create havoc for themselves.

More than 11,000 Palestinians, two-thirds of them women and minors, have been killed since the war began, according to the Health Ministry in Gaza,

The Health Ministry! So, the actual number is 10% or less of that.

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Yes human shields can’t flee.

so what is Israel to do, just give up and let the terrorists escape and survive to kill more innocent people?

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Did anyone else notice the street name on the third photo with the Bring them home mural?

"Weizmann" translates to White man in English.

Is it normal to have a German street name in Israel?

Chaim Weizmann was the first President of Israel.

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Where exactly are they going to escape lol

That's why Israel has to blast them out of the tunnels lol.

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This brutal genocide needs to stop.

A war crime is being demonstrated and we all can witness it.

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Where exactly are they going to escape lol

The terrorists? Qatar or Iran.

or the USA southern border.

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"Israel’s military asserted it placed 300 liters (634 pints) of fuel near Shifa overnight for an emergency generator for incubators for premature babies and coordinated the delivery with hospital officials. “Sadly, they haven’t taken the fuel yet,”

They placed the fuel in a dangerous location making collection difficult. 800 litres would run the generators for 15 minutes. The hospital generators use 8,000 litres per day.

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Sure why don’t they just have some workers hand deliver it to Hamas and let them take more hostages as human shields?

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Surely a few guys trying to escape would be quickly detected and easily dealt with, right?

Yeah the same thing was said pre October 7th as it related to armed terrorism attacks, wasn’t it?

yet look what happened.

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A more accurate headline would be:

"Heavy fighting rages near main Hamas bunker; people trapped inside say they are not allowed to flee."

BTW, I wonder how much fuel Hamas gave the hospital from the million litres plus that they have stockpiled/stolen?

For those who doubt that Hamas has poured countless millions of dollars and precious resources into a subterranean system, check out the New York TImes' "The Tunnels of Gaza".

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/10/world/europe/hamas-gaza-tunnels.html

Now, if only Hamas would let the thousands of civilians around the hospital have access to their tunnels, they could all be saved. But for Hamas, dead martyrs are preferable to live civilians.

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Yep. You don’t have to depend on intelligence about the next attack if you just annihilate your enemy now so they can’t attack any more.

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Did anyone else notice the street name on the third photo with the Bring them home mural?

"Weizmann" translates to White man in English.

Is it normal to have a German street name in Israel?

Chaim Weizmann was a RUSSIAN Jew, scientist, Zionist who played a key role in the establishment of the Jewish state and who became its first president.

"Weiss", not "Weiz" is the German for "white". There are lots of German Jews who are revered and respected in Israel.

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Saw a rather poignant comic of a Hamas terrorist with several children strapped to him saying, “How dare Israel attack children!”

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What a biased afticle !

Who is the agressor state ?

Do you really think Israel attacks hospitals ?

The responsibility falls on Hamas only.

Did we let the Nazis rest or did the Allies do the job to bomb before invasion ?

Raise a white flag and no sniper is going to shoot you, outside a Hamas one...

To understand the psychology of that war, remember most of the Gazaouis are brainwashed to think Israel should be annihilated by killing every single Jew, and that dying by martyrdom is fine, even when a kid. Please learn Hamas is not fighting for Palestine but is led by ideology.

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Totally agree with you there, because that means Israel's intelligence is complete bs and any of their claims should be taken with a grain of salt if they can't even spot an entire rebellion sneaking in through their own back door. Which is what everyone has been trying to say. Glad we're on the same page now.

Yeah, but Israel can make the entire Arab world come to a standstill and not lift a finger for their Arab brothers in Gaza, because they know Israel is in the right.

And Israel can control the entire region of Gaza, force half the population to evacuate so Israel can clean the area of terrorists, and patiently and humanely eradicate Hamas while sparing the civilian population.

How's that rebellion doing now?

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