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China, Honduras sign cooperation document on jointly building the Belt and Road Initiative.

Helping Mexico through BRICS membership and Honduras via BRI will be good for Central America. It’s time to life the embargo on Cuba.

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It seems that Honduras is seeking financial aid from China, but it is important for them to exercise caution regarding China's debt trap tactics.

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US also switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to Peking.... in 1979 already.

The US creates its own problems enough by themselves. The Ukrainian War is another example of what they did not want to see Russia and China together against the West. The chips and van causes Micron stock to drop 6%! Just leave it up to them and sit back and watch. Thusvuu I s the ultimate example of winning by holding still.

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@WilliBToday 01:50 am JST

CCP money speaks loudly and clearly. By the way, before American politicians start pontificating about the issue they should remember that the US also switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to Peking.... in 1979 already.

Nobody said the US wasn't also letting money guide the issue. Money will only get you so far in the world, though. It won't buy you friends.

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CCP money speaks loudly and clearly. By the way, before American politicians start pontificating about the issue they should remember that the US also switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to Peking.... in 1979 already.

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@quercetumJune 11 07:20 pm JST

In the end they’ll have ports, railways, and infrastructure

Shaky infrastructure built to Chinese standards and all paid for on the backs of the local population.

China gets support almost the entire Asia, Middle East, Latin America, Caribbean and Africa. The U.S. has support from roughly 15 nations. The Anglo nations, their vassal states Germany, Japan and South Korea; some former colonial powers and some small Eastern European enemies of Russia. In most UN votes China always almost has support in excess of 150/195 nations.

141 nations condemned Russia's invasion. Countries don't like the name of the cop on the beat but he does stand with 40% of the world's GDP. Since China's resolutions are always "let the criminals be criminals", of course it has wide support.

Taiwan is not even recognized as a sovereign state in the UN.

We'll see how that recognition goes if China launches its criminal invasion.

The U.S. debts and deficits is simply unsustainable.

Dollar strong. Stock market up. Troops safe.

China is growing at a rate of 3–4 times a year for the past 40 years against the US.

It needs to grow 3x total to catch up to the US. 3-4x the US ain't going to cut it.

US has stagnated since the 1960’s

China will definitely grow old and age out into middle income. It has nothing to offer the world except cheap labor.

China’s registrations of US patent office has doubled the US for the past decade.

If you think China's patents, should they come with something of importance, won't be lifted faster than Superman on laundry day, you have another thing coming.

Join the BRI.

The acronym can't even do something unified when they are just five. Let alone when they add a bunch of more dictatorships.

Taiwan doesn’t even have such ambitions.

It has the ambition to continue to be free and to maintain trade with the 40% of the world's gdp that represents free countries.

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@RodneyJune 11 07:47 pm JST

apart from triads and corruption, Taiwan is a decent country. Love the place.

No one is more corrupt than the CCP.

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The point is the majority of the worlds countries chose to recognize China before they were rich.

Most of the world waited until the shameful expulsion from the UN of Taiwan, which the US opposed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Taiwan

I can't say for certain what the diplomatic climate was like at the time, but I suspect Europe was more willing to poke the US in the eye at the time. We can all see how well that worked out for them.

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Belize, Guatemala, Haiti, Holy See, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Paraguay, St Lucia, St Kitts and Nevis, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Eswatini and Tuvalu.

around 50% of these are alleged corrupt. Money laundering or pedo hiding places.

apart from triads and corruption, Taiwan is a decent country. Love the place.

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I'm sure their "leaders" will be happy, though - selling their country's sovereignty for personal kick-backs.

In the end they’ll have ports, railways, and infrastructure built Sri Lanka has a port does it not? In infrastructure the Chinese has the biggest ports and the biggest ports have the most ships. It has build 120 thousand miles of high speed railway criss crossing China the U.S. build 100 kilometres and these slow Amtrak tanks for railway. The US trains look like the ones Jesse James used to rob, slow and bulky. While Taiwan has high speed railway, it does not build its own, not even its subway let alone high speed railway. China can put in a system that connects all of Central America.

China gets support almost the entire Asia, Middle East, Latin America, Caribbean and Africa. The U.S. has support from roughly 15 nations. The Anglo nations, their vassal states Germany, Japan and South Korea; some former colonial powers and some small Eastern European enemies of Russia. In most UN votes China always almost has support in excess of 150/195 nations. Taiwan is not even recognized as a sovereign state in the UN.

On sustainability China has 175 out of 195 nations as its biggest trading partners and the U.S. has 29/195 nations as its biggest trading partner. The U.S. debts and deficits is simply unsustainable. China is growing at a rate of 3–4 times a year for the past 40 years against the US. And its standard of living has grown 30 times in the past 40 years and the US has stagnated since the 1960’s. China will definitely be able to help Honduras like it has with Laos. Taiwan can only thank you for keeping formal relations This does nothing for the people of Honduras.

On the present and future technology, in a recent Australian research from ASPI, China leads in 37/44 most crucial and strategic technologies while the US lead in only 7/37. China’s registrations of US patent office has doubled the US for the past decade. Taiwan has semiconductors, something that will not help Honduras.

Honduras stands to benefit greatly with newly turned relations with China. Join the BRI. The U.S. has Biden’s Build Back Better which has done nothing. Taiwan doesn’t even have such ambitions. It just has a new DPP President in 2024 but nothing for Honduras.

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Thirteen countries recognize Taiwan...

Belize, Guatemala, Haiti, Holy See, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Paraguay, St Lucia, St Kitts and Nevis, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Eswatini and Tuvalu.

Not the US, not a single European country. To call this list minnows would be too kind.

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So the censored answer is yes, the USA is funding Honduras.

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Money talks and no one has more money than the 1.4 billion pound gorilla?

When you look at the historical context...before Deng Xiao peng China wasn't all that rich

I know. It was a shame they were guided out of their backwardness economically before solving their backwardness politically.

The point is the majority of the worlds countries chose to recognize China before they were rich.

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All the China haters must think countries like Honduras are full of fools and have no agency. Why do you look down upon them so? The benefits of trade and technical help from China are obvious.

Because all dealings with China comes with the unpleasant, dishonest and control freaks that are the CCP. If they became a democracy, losing the one party system, many of those people say are China haters would become China lovers, because in reality it is the CCP people loath and distrust.

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Nobody cares what Honduras does. It is a dump which is why everyone is trying to leave. Maybe the U.S. should put those illegal Honduran immigrants on a ship and send them to China!

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Honduras should save themselves the time and start teaching in Mandarin in their schools.

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Taiwanischina..

There will be other tiny states to continue the recognition.

There are only 13 countries that recognize Taiwan. Mostly tiny poor countries. Did you even read the article?

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All the China haters must think countries like Honduras are full of fools and have no agency. Why do you look down upon them so? The benefits of trade and technical help from China are obvious.

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Also the Chinese aren't all that rich. Just the emperor at top.

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@LegrandeToday 04:42 pm JST

Money talks and no one has more money than the 1.4 billion pound gorilla?

When you look at the historical context...before Deng Xiao peng China wasn't all that rich

I know. It was a shame they were guided out of their backwardness economically before solving their backwardness politically.

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Money talks and no one has more money than the 1.4 billion pound gorilla?

When you look at the historical context...before Deng Xiao peng China wasn't all that rich

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Sad move by Honduras. No doubt this has been done against the wishes of the ordinary citizens. They will come to recognize the error only when the debt mountain becomes unserviceable.

Still, the Republic of China continues to exist in spite of the best efforts of the Peoples Republic of China to extinguish it and control Taiwan with its 24 million independent people.

I wish my country would switch recognition back to ROC. Most people I know feel the same.

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Anyone who objectively looks into why this is so will understand.

Money talks and no one has more money than the 1.4 billion pound gorilla?

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Taiwan now has formal diplomatic relations with only 13 countries, mostly poor and developing countries in Central America, the Caribbean and the Pacific.

Anyone who objectively looks into why this is so will understand.

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Interesting that one of the recognizer is the Holy See. The Vatican will be tough for the criminal dictatorship to convince to switch relations.

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There will be other tiny states to continue the recognition. The PRC ain't going to be able to take the island without bloodshed.

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Smart move. Hopefully China will bring prosperity to the country like is doing to most countries all over the world.

Hardly...

Good luck Honduras now you will see what brutal dictatorship you are joining.....

Without a doubt!

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Good job Honduras. Now you can join Japan, the US and the rest of the world in not having an embassy and official ties with Taiwan. Welcome to the club of recognizing One China.

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Good luck Honduras now you will see what brutal dictatorship you are joining.....

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worth every yuan?

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Smart move for China, but Honduras is about to be owned by China. Here come the shiny Chinese loans and a mountain of debt. Costly lesson for Honduras.

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Smart move. Hopefully China will bring prosperity to the country like is doing to most countries all over the world.

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