Hong Kong jails 45 democracy activists in landmark national security trial

(Incoming US administration furiously taking notes)

This is exactly what happens when far-Left authoritarians get their way - a totalitarian nightmare where free speech is crushed, and dissenters are thrown in jail. The Hong Kong activists are being silenced by the same kind of system the woke Left idolizes: centralized control, forced conformity to a particular narrative, and zero tolerance for opposing views.

Radical Left posters whining about 'justice' and 'equity' are the same ones cheering for the kind of authoritarianism that jails people for simply advocating democracy. They’ll cloak it in flowery language, but their endgame is the same - total control over speech, thought, and freedom.

Wake up. If you let these people have their way, they’ll import this tyranny into the West, all while claiming it’s for the 'greater good.' Defending freedom isn’t just about opposing the despicable Chinese Communist Party - it’s about exposing and defeating the wannabe authoritarians right here at home.

Hong Kong is the anti-democracy, freedom-hating sewer of China - and that's saying something. A filthy, totalitarian police state - where even typing the word "democracy" in an email has seen citizens jailed there.

Any company doing business in or with Hong Kong should be condemned. Anyone foreigner who visits there is beyond contempt.

All power and strength to hero Benny Tai, Gordon Ng, Owen Chow, Joshua Wong - and all of the heroic 45.

One day, in the future, the HK Judges, Police, public servants and government will be put up against a wall.

So much for 1 county, 2 systems that was guaranteed for 50 yrs.

Important to observe HK is - and has always - been part of China and the potential penalties are actually less harsh than those imposed on activists in western jurisdictions.

Well, that's certainly a lot of companies and foreigners who are 'beyond contempt' to access one of the global economic gateways of the Chinese economy.

Important to observe HK is - and has always - been part of China and the potential penalties are actually less harsh than those imposed on activists in western jurisdictions.

This will be good. Let's see you provide examples of activists in western jurisdictions who have been jailed for their activities in support of democracy. Might be tricky for you, because most western countries are democracies (Russia doesn't count as either western, a democracy, or even much of a country as such, before you start) but hey.

Important to observe HK is - and has always - been part of China.

The Right Honourable Sir Henry Pottinger of the British East India Company disputes your comment.

A lease doesn't mean the rightful owner gave up ownership.

Another myth is that HK was democratic during British rule.

Free speech with Chinese characteristics.

Another myth is that HK was democratic during British rule.

It had, IIRC, the highest concentration of millionaires on the earth at that time.

Anyway, why haven't you answered my question yet? For you convenience and selective memory, I will repost it below.

Let's see you provide examples of activists in western jurisdictions who have been jailed for their activities in support of democracy. Might be tricky for you, because most western countries are democracies (Russia doesn't count as either western, a democracy, or even much of a country as such, before you start) but hey.

there is law in HK and there are rules.

these so called activists knew what are they doing.

so here is verdict and punishment.

as simple as is.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why the people of Taiwan don't want to come under CCP rule.

They don't get a say in the matter, as it is all Beijing's real estate.

Clearly these several dozen were trying to upend the democratic process. And they were clearly acting as foreign agents in terms of funding/organization.

Either of these two counts - subverting the democratic process or acting as a foreign agent - will see penalties - especially in a western jurisdiction.

This is good for Taiwan and Hong Kong and the Joshua Wongs taking photos with Nancy Pelosi and thinking they’re going to get the US to back their independence.

Nip it in the bud.

there is law in HK and there are rules.

Subversion and insurrection warrant imprisonment. Brick throwers too.

Anybody with common sense knows this is just a Kangaroo Court Trial!!

The CCP is afraid of anyone with an opinion!!

quercetumToday 04:19 pm JST

This is good for Taiwan and Hong Kong and the Joshua Wongs taking photos with Nancy Pelosi and thinking they’re going to get the US to back their independence.

Nip it in the bud.

It's good for Taiwan in that it reminds them they can never join the disgusting PRC.

Nip it in the bud.

Hundreds of people had queued from the early hours outside the court, many holding umbrellas in light rain as they tried to secure a seat within the main courtroom and several spillover courts.

Uh oh, that is another offense.

It's good for Taiwan in that it reminds them they can never join the disgusting PRC.

Exactly, a clear cut example of what it means to become part of China.

Every free thinking person should shudder at the thought.

China shows Taiwan, Tibet, Hong Kong, Xinjiang’s CIA activities will be nipped.

The Philippines too. I like how China takes care of business to let Taiwan know not to get any wrong ideas.

Hundreds of people had queued from the early hours outside the court, many holding umbrellas

Yes, that correct. The CCP absolutely failed in letting it get that far. They should have been allowed to simmer that long.

China isn’t Yugloslvia or Georgia. Silly imbeciles think they can get students to sit in a square quietly making paper mache Statues of Liberties to topple a government.

They have to study rebels and revolutions in China and learn from history.

Precisely. This civil unrest is stirred up by nefarious outside quarters. Brick throwers need to be jailed. The British colonialists were ruthless in crushing dissent.

Precisely. This civil unrest is stirred up by nefarious outside quarters. Brick throwers need to be jailed. The British colonialists were ruthless in crushing dissent.

(coughs politely). As I said a while ago, you haven't answered my question yet. And I know that you won't, because you can't, but I just like to remind everyone of the fact.

Let's see you provide examples of activists in western jurisdictions who have been jailed for their activities in support of democracy. Might be tricky for you, because most western countries are democracies (Russia doesn't count as either western, a democracy, or even much of a country as such, before you start) but hey.

So much for 1 county, 2 systems that was guaranteed for 50 yrs.

You are correct but that goes both ways. Pushing for "democracy" was not part of the deal.

Really odd how the UK is so keen on HK "democracy" now but didn't care for it when the UK could have literally granted HK democracy on a plate. Very strange? Or is this all part of the grand western plan to bash China?

The charges related to the organising of an unofficial "primary election" in 2020

What happening in spring 2020 that allowed governments to shut down protests in a variety of countries that were very inconvenient and being closed watched by the rest of the world?

My wife is a HK Citizen and she was held in detention for 6 weeks.

We helped and help Hongkong people to either leave or continue their fight for freedom. As a result my wife’s bank accounts, appartement and my cars are all seized bij HK government.

we don’t do enough and many brave people are imprisoned for no reason.

Imagine that. Jailing people for wanting a vote, a democracy, and choice. But we still want to do business with China. But I guess it is true. We are just a few laws away from losing democracy. a Vote away from a dictatorship. Kissinger was wrong. Opening up to China was wrong. Even the Chinese abroad are trying to crush Taiwan, and any alternative opinions and viewpoints. Students from Taiwan can't even say they're from Taiwan cause the Chinese students shout, complain, and rant. Universities have one eye on their bank accounts, one eye on how many Chinese students they can enrol, and their head, saying..Shut up! Get the Money! Surely, we can do business with all the other nations. When we buy cheap Chinese junk, we give them tax money to built a military.

JJEToday  03:11 pm JST

A lease doesn't mean the rightful owner gave up ownership.

Another myth is that HK was democratic during British rule.

Only the New Territories and Northern Kowloon were on a 99-year lease! Hong Kong Island and (and later Kowloon Peninsula) were ceded for eternity to the U.K at the Treaty of Nanking in 1842!

Only the New Territories and Northern Kowloon were on a 99-year lease! Hong Kong Island and (and later Kowloon Peninsula) were ceded for eternity to the U.K at the Treaty of Nanking in 1842!

It's admirable that you think facts will get in the way of his incessant genuflection to the dictators of the world.

Let's see you provide examples of activists in western jurisdictions who have been jailed for their activities in support of democracy. Might be tricky for you, because most western countries are democracies (Russia doesn't count as either western, a democracy, or even much of a country as such, before you start) but hey.

This doesn’t make sense at all. Why would a Western democracy put in jail activists engaging in activities in support of democracy? Your logic is off.

There are plenty of examples where riots, dissent, subversion, and insurrection were squashed. Why would not you do so for the capitol rioters?

How do you think Britain handled Hong Kong colonial era uprisings?

Only the New Territories and Northern Kowloon were on a 99-year lease! Hong Kong Island and (and later Kowloon Peninsula) were ceded for eternity to the U.K at the Treaty of Nanking in 1842!

Thats even better. Deng just took it right from Thatcher without any shots fired.

The intelligent way is not to use gun boats, tanks and missiles. Use economic leverage and embargoes.

Imagine that. Jailing people for wanting a vote, a democracy, and choice.

You follow the laws of the country. Rules based society. You don’t get to change the system of government in your country either, you’d be jailed for trying.

quercetum

You follow the laws of the country. Rules based society. 

Something tells me you don't live there and suffer the very laws and rules you're championing.

When HK was a colony, for more than 150 years, not a single vote was casted, for its leader. Every single one of its governor, more than 20, were appointed by the crown, no voting. Now, in whatever form, people at least get to cast, vote. So, don't kid anyone about democracy. Rioters.

Hong Kong is the anti-democracy, freedom-hating sewer of China - and that's saying something. A filthy, totalitarian police state - where even typing the word "democracy" in an email has seen citizens jailed there

When did you last visit HK? It's not that bad and it still has great food and shopping.