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And? Wouldn't you think it strange that a non-patriot would run for a political job in America? Did anyone here say anything about what Spain did to Catalan politicians? Or are HK and China the only places that should be criticized for patriotism?

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We sure know who's "watch" this occurred on...and who gets the blame....

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-9-11-on-george-w-bush-watch-214886

Ever notice how the language of the Chinese Communists echoes the same language of the US far-right and Trump supporters?

"Patriotic education", "restoring order"...the words of democracy-hating dictators and tyrants....

Remember that when you hear these same words from the Repubs in 2022/24...

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Hong Kong - filthy, dangerous police state, province of Communist China.

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Hong Kong is lost as the Chinese mainland is lost. You cant suggest a different way or you disappear for life. Call for democracy your gone for life. Suggest a new leader your guilty of treason and disloyalty. Laws like this are a simple mechanism to put opposition or people you dont want around, behind bars and just say hey, it's the law not me.

The strangulation of the people and the people's will continues, and life with the CCP looks worse by the day. The only option in situations like this always end in a massive loss of life in a fight for freedom and a right to speak ones mind and have input in one's living conditions and direction of life. Constant never ending pressure from the state to conform to it's ever more limited views can only end badly. I feel sorrow for the future of the Chinese people and only hope they dont have to draw the world in to their path of pain.

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So it's ok (or even a must) for Americans to be patriotic but it's not ok for HKers and Chinese to be? Noted.

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The yanks can choose either way. Poor people in hong kong cannot.

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So it's ok (or even a must) for Americans to be patriotic but it's not ok for HKers and Chinese to be? Noted.

Who says it's not ok for them to be patriotic? No one.

What's not ok is disappearing someone just for having a different political view.

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Entire thread going ‘off-topic” when diminished freedoms in what’s left of the former Hong Kong are the issue here.

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It's such a shame.

First there was a promise and a dream, then the lie, then the promise was broken and now it's a brutal crackdown. Not a nice country.

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When organised resistance is crippled by one sided laws like this the only options left are compliance or disorganised resistance aka terrorism.

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China has taken this once beautiful city and is causing it to mutate into a southern version of the mainland communist cesspool. I wish we could change the name from “Hong Kong” which represents a once vibrant and prosperous city to a name that reflects the monstrosity that it is sadly becoming.

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The talk about patriotism and taking America as an example as, if they can why can't we? is a flawed argument since one country is forcing it, but at the same time Americans are overly patriotic, as well as Japan and most other Asian countries. So many fights and disagreements based on pride from invisible lines. Coming from Sweden most don't really have that kind of pride about their country, we like our country and we think we do a lot right. But we call out the stuff we don't like and if having a house in Spain is cheaper and a nicer way to live we are gone in a heartbeat. Your home is where you live and where your loved ones are, not where you happened to be born.

Btw was watching a Chinese drama a while ago which mainly took place at a university, and they were unironically upset about not having a democratic vote on where they were gonna go on their school trip. was watching through the comments to see who else thought that was funny, but seems like it was just me. I'm seriously wondering If the average Chinese doesn't even know they live in a dictatorship.

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Met several Hong Kongers in the UK looking to start a new life in the UK this year-felt really sorry for them as Hong Kong was such a great city to be in.

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Ever notice how the language of the Chinese Communists echoes the same language of the US far-right and Trump supporters?

What? Far left communist dictators are now the same as Far Right? You are confused or ill educated. This is the direct result of left wing ideologies taken to the extreme. It's something we have seen everytime socialism has been tried.

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What they call 'patriotism' is actually total ruthless repression - it's the Chinese way of normalising what they do.

The only thing that Carrie Lam is presiding over is her own demise, as step-by-step she will disappear and become extinct, just like the democratic freedom which the people of Hong Kong used to enjoy.

Extremely sad situation, and yet again, the rest of the world's democracies just look away.....

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Well, this is what happen when you bite the hand that feed you. Everything they had and had enjoy in the past was because the mainland had allowed it. The citizens seems to forget that. And that privilege can just as easily be taken away once you cross their bottom line. It's a shame but they should have know this would happen the moment they were no longer a part of Britain.

Hard times are ahead of them. The mainland will spend the next few years reshaping HK to their standards. This is no longer about HK making them money or not, but about teaching them a long hard lesson.

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Sorry, but Hong Kong is done.

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再见香港

Good bye, HK. :(

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Once one of the most important gateways for doing business with China, a major trade umbilical; Hong Kong SAR is slowly dying, as the rich leave, the poor are squeezed, and the corporates who once drove the economy move to friendlier countries.

That 1898 lease with China for 99 years looks so remote now.

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 Did anyone here say anything about what Spain did to Catalan politicians?

I mentioned the Catalonia issue a couple of times, and also in the context of China. I think both Spain and China are in breach of the UN charter - "respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples". They should both be called out. As you imply, very few spoke out against Spain. But that doesn't excuse China for this ugly behavior.

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Beware of any government that has "patriot tests"

No government in the world worth its salt requires any "patriot test"

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I wonder why the West didn’t offer enough support for the people of Hong Kong seeking freedom. They were waving US flags and begging for help.

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And one day the Beijing Bullies will create that one crime too many and it'll all unravel for the enemies of freedom: history will prove it again.

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Hong Kong China's next cess pool state!

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Sam WattersJan. 12  05:41 pm JST

China has taken this once beautiful city and is causing it to mutate into a southern version of the mainland communist cesspool. I wish we could change the name from “Hong Kong” which represents a once vibrant and prosperous city to a name that reflects the monstrosity that it is sadly becoming.

The CCP puppets in HK keep coming up with their excuses excuses excuses to impose their totalitarian ways on the people there. This is technically an annexation by PRC, if not in name but fact.

lostrune2Jan. 12  10:21 pm JST

Beware of any government that has "patriot tests"

No government in the world worth its salt requires any "patriot test"

The Red Scare in the US during the 50s had their 'patriot' and 'loyalty' oaths. The word 'patriot' or 'patriot test' anymore has become an Orwellian red flag denoting a tool to induce and force loyalty to a rotten government. China has the word 'patriotic' in so many phony 'religious' organizations that swear allegience to the CCP opressors. Donald Trump wanted to impose 'patriotic' education in American schools to glorify and enhance his personality cult.

'Patriotism' has become an ugly word today, all twisted up. That's how dictatorships of all kinds everywhere operate. A sham.

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Boycott the chinese terror state.

It's simple, don't buy the crap they make.

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And notice the CCP plague on the wall is positioned above that of HK. It's very obvious who's truly running the sham show now.

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When Communism in China falls - and it will, as Communism always falls everywhere - evil Carrie Lam will be the first murderous tyrant put up against the wall by the people. It will be a great day of celebration.

When organised resistance is crippled by one sided laws like this the only options left are compliance or disorganised resistance aka terrorism.

HK politicians, judges, public servants and policemen and women, are ALL fair targets for the remaining freedom fighters. The realistic course of action is for the 4 million who have been offered UK residency to take that up within 3-6 months. Drop everything and leave. NOW.

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Pukey2Jan. 12 03:58 pm JST

And? Wouldn't you think it strange that a non-patriot would run for a political job in America? Did anyone here say anything about what Spain did to Catalan politicians? Or are HK and China the only places that should be criticized for patriotism?

What you're missing is that you don't understand their definition of "patriot", it is very different from your own. And it's done on purpose. Patriot in HK doesn't mean supporting your country, it means supporting CCP's authority without question. I would actually defend that the real patriots, the ones who love their country, to defend it, to want to administer it themselves are the anti CCP crowds. For HKers the CCP is foreign, coming in force in the country controlling their liberties.

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Glad I got to go there once back in 2015. Not anymore. Hong Kong as the world knew it, is finished.

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