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Shifting hopes as Republicans, Democrats wait for Mueller

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By JONATHAN LEMIRE and MARY CLARE JALONICK

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, if the report is underwhelming he will use Twitter and interviews to gloat over the findings, 

That's to be expected from a 12 year old, or a narcissistically impaired, spoiled class brat.

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After all this nonsense Trump is within his rights to say anything he wants if the report comes up empty.

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We already know Trump is a known liar and proven scammer. New info will be fun.

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All of the juicy details of what Trump and his criminal gang have been doing will probably end up being redacted (unfortunately), and with William Barr and a freshly stacked U.S. Supreme Court backing him up, this president is going to quite likely get away with way, way worse than what Nixon ever did.

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Trumpers favorite words - "Mueller has done nothing - his report will be empty"...

Just false hopes. Of course they avoid the fact that he's already tried and convicted seven of Trump's closest associates and his personal attorney - all for lying about Russia under oath. And has uncovered huge amounts of other criminal activity that he has been handed off to the SD NY Attorney.

Not only the final report, but there are 26 sealed indictments already filed - suspects that are just waiting to be picked up in cuffs, as soon as the investigation closes. How many of those are at the White House - Don Jr, Jared, Ivanka, or the Chief Mob Boss himself?

And the question lingers that no Trumper here has ever answered - if everything is so innocent, why all the lying about Russia?

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Democrats, in the U.S., have been desperately clinging to the hope that the Mueller report is FINALLY going to provide them with some evidence of "collusion". It didn't matter that "collusion" isn't even a crime. Since many Democrats are now downplaying any Mueller report results suggests that they have come to the conclusion that those who pushed the Steele Report/Trump-Russia dossier thru the FISA court were politically biased liars.

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The Dems don't need Mueller as much as before the election. They can run their own investigations and have a much broader scope than Mueller.

That being said, I'm guessing Mueller will confirm that Trump is a walking P.O.S. No collusion, but obviously evidence that he tried to obstruct justice. And I'm guessing there will be a few more surprises.

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Democrats, in the U.S., have been desperately clinging to the hope that the Mueller report is FINALLY going to provide them with some evidence of "collusion". It didn't matter that "collusion" isn't even a crime. Since many Democrats are now downplaying any Mueller report results suggests that they have come to the conclusion that those who pushed the Steele Report/Trump-Russia dossier thru the FISA court were politically biased liars.

I think they are just hedging their bets. The entire Mueller investigation has been undermined to the point that if it finds nothing, or the results are buried, it proves beyond any reasonable doubt of the corruption by the Trump administration into stifling what we all know to be the truth - that Trump is a felon sitting in the presidency, and we should LOCK HIM UP!

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Trump doth protest too much, methinks. Redacted areas of notes released regarding Cohen deal mostly with finances - including an entire section. Ah, Deutsche Bank. We'll be getting to know you much better.

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Democrats, in the U.S., have been desperately clinging to the hope that the Mueller report is FINALLY going to provide them with some evidence of "collusion". It didn't matter that "collusion" isn't even a crime. Since many Democrats are now downplaying any Mueller report results suggests that they have come to the conclusion that those who pushed the Steele Report/Trump-Russia dossier thru the FISA court were politically biased liars.

Collusion with the campaign has already been proven - even Guiliani had to walk back that sound-bite.

Manafort was in hock to Russian oligarchs and provided them with campaign polling data so the Russians could better target their Info ops. Stone was in contact and coordinated with Wikileaks that had Russian stolen e-mails to release. Then we had the infamous Trump Tower meeting with Manafort, Don Jr, Jared and known Russian agents to get dirt on Hillary - where everyone lied and said it was about adoptions.

What Mueller will tell us is whether Donnie knew of these or directed them. The obvious answer is yes.

But what is different from two years ago is collusion is now secondary to fraud, money laundering, conspiracy and any number of other crimes that are being investigated by the New York SD Attorney - that's what's most dangerous. There are now documents that clearly show Trump knowingly inflated his personal worth to get loans from Deutsche Bank - that's Fraud. And that's just the beginning.

Donnie is freaking out on his Twitter storms because he knows the noose is closing - and he's trying to convince his bamboozled supporters that everything is a partisan witch hunt. BS - the Crime Don is being held accountable for his crimes...just like John Gotti.

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But what is different from two years ago is collusion is now secondary to fraud, money laundering, conspiracy and any number of other crimes

Including obstruction of justice, which Donny himself admitted when he fired Comey for looking into Russian collusion - which has now been proven.

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Just false hopes. Of course they avoid the fact that he's already tried and convicted seven of Trump's closest associates and his personal attorney - all for lying about Russia under oath. And has uncovered huge amounts of other criminal activity that he has been handed off to the SD NY Attorney. 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we keep hearing that from Trump hating crowd that desperately wants to see the gallows built and the nooses tied on something that was completely manufactured, so now the plan is....A...B...Z...or whichever is or the hope is maybe Mueller will have the goods to get Trump the rope. Lol

Not only the final report, but there are 26 sealed indictments already filed - suspects that are just waiting to be picked up in cuffs, as soon as the investigation closes. How many of those are at the White House - Don Jr, Jared, Ivanka, or the Chief Mob Boss himself?

Ok and then the so called hoaxed crimes will be something financial perhaps and then the recommendation for removal will be asked and the Dems will be horrified when the GOP will say No. There will be crying, Adam Spliff will need a timeout as well as Nadler and Cummings will be beside themselves. It will be a spectacle that will put the Olympics to shame.

And the question lingers that no Trumper here has ever answered - if everything is so innocent, why all the lying about Russia?

I wonder that as well and Hillary is not talking and Podesta is hiding somewhere not to be found.

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We really can't wait much longer. It's not just the public's impatience. It's the daily destruction of democracy while we wait for... something. We are going to hit a point soon where we can't go back, where the Mueller report will get buried, and far worse things will happen under this administration. The MAGAs and the GOP are already gearing up for it.

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We really can't wait much longer. It's not just the public's impatience. It's the daily destruction of democracy

But you guys were silent about democracy over the last eight years it was that liberal democracy or the progressive democracy, which interpretation is it?

while we wait for... something. We are going to hit a point soon where we can't go back, where the Mueller report will get buried,

Preaching to the choir, we want to know what happen with everything on the Democrat side that was buried. Inquiring minds wan to know.

and far worse things will happen under this administration. The MAGAs and the GOP are already gearing up for it.

Oh, I pray for it. If the Democrats want to sharpen their knives and think they can get away with this, they are so wrong. Thank God we have a President who loves to punch back and won’t take things laying down.

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After all this nonsense Trump is within his rights to say anything he wants if the report comes up empty.

Whether the report is empty has no bearing on Trump's right to mouth off; it's called the First Amendment.

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Whether the report is empty has no bearing on Trump's right to mouth off; it's called the First Amendment.

Exactly! Which Trump has also the absolute right to express his opinion

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Exactly! Which Trump has also the absolute right to express his opinion

Glad to see ypunagree that Blacklab was incorrect. Disagreeing with another Trumpophile is a step toward recovery. I'm proud of you, sport.

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But you guys were silent about democracy over the last eight years

Obama was elected by both the people AND the electoral college, twice. He was the democratically elected president. There wasn't anything to be noisy about at that time.

The people on the other hand decided they didn't want Trump. Democratically that is. His leadership while legal, is not democratic.

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Hmm. It appears most of the redacted material was made so as it's been handed off to SDNY - and is primarily financial in nature. Smart move: this eliminates chances of a Trump pardon.

The point is that members of the Trump family may not be implicated in Mueller's report but may well be by SDNY - and hauled before the House investigation committees.

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"Silent on democracy" means a lot more than simply discussing vote totals. It also means how government was conducted- things like executive orders (I've got a pen and a phone) , the treatment of the press, lack of transparency and so on.

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"Silent on democracy" means a lot more than simply discussing vote totals. It also means how government was conducted- things like executive orders (I've got a pen and a phone) , the treatment of the press, lack of transparency and so on.

In that case, we spent eight years talking about democracy with your guys' whining on the above things, along with your fake news birtherism, as well as all those things that you're whining now that it's happening back to you.

Remember that time you guys wigged right out and tried to claim it was the end of democracy when Obama signed an executive order?

And how many executive orders has your boy signed now, with your support?

You guys are the most hypocritical members of humanity, since humanity stopped being monkeys.

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Fine, run for President based on eliminating the Electoral college, stacking the Supreme Court and allowing 16 year olds to vote and see if you can win.

If so, then do those plus give citizenship to all your precious DACA and other illegals. Then Dems never ever have to lose again. Even when you screw over Bernie to pick the only candidate in history who could have actually lost to Trump.

Quite the outrage you're manufacturing once again.

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Thank God we have a President who loves to punch back...

I thought the general idea of punching back was to hurt an opponent and put them out of a fight. Think Trump's ever going to do any damage to the people he "punches back" at?

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Not outraged and nothing manufactured. Those are the stated positions and desired outcomes directly from your presidential candidates. Yeah those things sound crazy, so why are your candidates saying them?

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Um, dude, they’re candidates.

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exactly my point. These aren’t crazed twitter users or anonymous internet message board posters. These are your best of the best, your chosen candidates for president who are pushing these ridiculous ideas.

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Warrens supported policies are up to around 100 trillion in cost now. Even at that cost she can’t fit in 5 billion for border security somehow.

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These are your best of the best, your chosen candidates for president

Chosen? Um... the very definition of a candidate is that they have not been chosen.

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Each one of them has received campaign donations. If they were not chosen by Dems they would have gotten no donations.

Plus, Dem leadership already knows who is chosen for the nomination they just havent told you yet. Do you really believe you get to pick whoever you want as a Dem?

Repubs it is very clear we have that right and privilege as we were able to pick Trump. while you guys screwed Bernie (and will again as soon as Biden joins)

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Black:. Warrens supported policies are up to around 100 trillion in cost now

Ha. .Hahahahahahahahahah. Hahahahahahahahahahha.

I that like the "$5 billion website" for Obamacare?

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It's a witch hunt, a vendetta, the worst presidential harassment in history.

That's what President Donald Trump has shouted for two years about the special counsel's Russia probe.

Now, barring an eleventh-hour surprise...

PTownsend, SuperLib, stormcrow, lincolnman, Strangerland, CrazyJoe, Chip Star and Simon Foston are practically salivating in hot anticipation of that eleventh hour surprise, hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Meanwhile, oh my...

Obama White House lawyer lands under Mueller's microscope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmsmpIhEUP0

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Google Elizabeth Warren 100 trillion and you can see her at the CNN town hall supporting all the health programs, reparations and green deal policies that cost that amount.

Meanwhike Beto is eating “regenerative dirt” and taking poop out of his kids diapers and playing around with it. More craziness to come in Dem 2020.

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It was as little as 500 million and as much as 2.1 billion “so far” for the Obamacare website last time Bloomberg reported it.

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I don’t understand the inability to research facts that are easily found in reputable sources. Guess it’s easier to mock everything rather they researching and educating oneself.

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Sure, give me a link to the source. I know Fox is repeating it endlessly.

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if it finds nothing, or the results are buried, it proves beyond any reasonable doubt of the corruption by the Trump administration into stifling what we all know to be the truth

Oh come on. So if the report comes back showing there was evidence of collusion then it's damning, but if the report comes back showing there was no evidence then... it's still damning? This stuff is getting ridiculous.

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Each one of them has received campaign donations. If they were not chosen by Dems

They have not been chosen by the dems. They are candidates - they nominate themselves because they want to. If they can find a few people to support them, they can do it. It requires no approval nor decision from the Democrats whatsoever.

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Oh come on. So if the report comes back showing there was evidence of collusion then it's damning, but if the report comes back showing there was no evidence then... it's still damning? This stuff is getting ridiculous.

Well, it got ridiculous with the Republican witch-hunt logic (if she's a witch, she'll stop the flames from burning her to death) against Hillary, which is what I modeled my post after.

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Oh my...

Mueller report release is imminent; Trump joins Democrats in pushing to have the entire report made public

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ehKLxl1-bg

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Even James Coney is saying he doesn’t care what the results of mueller report is. The goal of all of this was to obstruct and politically pressure Trunp for 2 years and that part was somewhat successful.

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Well, it got ridiculous with the Republican witch-hunt logic

Oh my...

Trump Victim Of Witch Hunt Say 50% Of Americans

Also, Mueller is a liar

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Even James Coney is saying he doesn’t care what the results of mueller report is. The goal of all of this was to obstruct and politically pressure Trunp for 2 years and that part was somewhat successful.

Seems like the Democrats are getting nervous. The same people that tried to protect Mueller and demanded that we just deal and accept the findings and report are now saying, maybe we can’t go by his report, maybe he’s covering or not willing to go public with every single thing he knows and like true cowardly and sneaky Democrat fashion, they move the goalpost, which is very revealing. At its absolute worst there might be something financial, but the collusion thing will be a complete dude, the Dems will cry, the media will shout and go nuts, I can see Navarro already going through the roof. Lol

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Seems like the Democrats are getting nervous. The same people that tried to protect Mueller and demanded that we just deal and accept the findings and report are now saying, maybe we can’t go by his report, maybe he’s covering or not willing to go public with every single thing he knows and like true cowardly and sneaky Democrat fashion, they move the goalpost, which is very revealing. At its absolute worst there might be something financial, but the collusion thing will be a complete dude, the Dems will cry, the media will shout and go nuts, I can see Navarro already going through the roof. Lol

Blah, blah, blah . . . ROFL! Wtf are you trying to say?

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Chip Star - Blah, blah, blah . . . ROFL! Wtf are you trying to say?

I think he said that the Mueller report is going to confirm that Trump did not collude with the Russians. Which means Democrat Rep. Adam Schiff has been lying to his fellow Democrats for the last two years.

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