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House leaders toil to advance Ukraine and Israel aid

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By STEPHEN GROVES, LISA MASCARO and KEVIN FREKING

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Only thing Republicans stand for is White people,they will not even recognize the plight of Haiti, even authorized aid for Haiti,they wonder these young White women have turned against them,lots of these women do.not have hang up ,they are receptive to Black men

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Americans cant afford health care and dental treatment, 100,000 plus living in cars and streets and here we have more money for weapons in far off lands.

This world is on a trajectory to hell.

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Americans cant afford health care and dental treatment, 100,000 plus living in cars and streets and here we have more money for weapons in far off lands.

Blame that on Republicans who are so driven to make sure that not one single person ever get something they don't deserve, even if that is as the cost of many who do deserve.

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MTG submitted an amendment for the aid bill that would install 'space laser technology on the southwest border'.

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Americans cant afford health care and dental treatment, 100,000 plus living in cars and streets and here we have more money for weapons in far off lands.

This world is on a trajectory to hell.

Hear you loud and clear.

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So with over 33,000 dead Palestinians, American Democrats are going to support Israel some more? To kill more Palestinians, or to target Iran and widen the war? As for Ukraine - Putin's regime should have been directly targeted from day 1. They are responsible for it. It would have cost peanuts and been over long ago.

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Democrat in Michigan are in open rebellion against Biden,he has no answer,but they have an answer for him,not voting for you

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The Tax Payers are getting SCAMMED in the name of National Security.

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GBR48

American Democrats are going to support Israel some more? To kill more Palestinians

No. $9.1 billion of the total is designated for humanitarian needs, something Democrats had demanded.

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Pouring Billions of $ into Ukraine, Israel Taiwan and many other leaches has NOTHING to do with U.S. national Security.

Feed your own people and help the needy, Providing Free education, Free Health Care, Free Transportation, plus free meals for all Children is in the best interest of National Security .

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Pouring Billions of $ into Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and many other Leeches has NOTHING to do with U.S. national Security.

Feed your own people and help the needy,

Providing Free education, Free Health Care, Free Transportation, plus free meals for all Children is in the best interest of National Security .

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Pouring Billions of $ into Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and many other Leeches has NOTHING to do with U.S. national Security.

Feed your own people and help the needy,

Providing Free education, Free Health Care, Free Transportation, plus free meals for all Children is in the best interest of National Security .

Why does it have to be one or the other?

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Their are already sign of open political rebellion in Chicago at the convention for Democrats,the last convention in Chicago did not end well politically for the nominee

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More cowardice from the House Repubs...

The Senate bill has all three aid components and only requires it be out on the floor for a vote - one day and it's done and our allies and partners can start getting their help defending democracy...

But no...because of "Putin's Pawns" like MTG, Johnson takes this tortuous and complicated road that just delays everything...

Putin, Xi, and Hamas all thank the Repubs for their support...

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It's interesting watching Mike Johnson trying to balance his interest in actually doing his job, with his extremist policies that align with the extremists who threaten to take away his job, because said extremists forced a position where it's really easy for them to take his job.

And that's what we can expect of Republican "leadership".

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Let’s get it done!

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Americans cant afford health care and dental treatment, 100,000 plus living in cars and streets and here we have more money for weapons in far off lands.

Well the military industrial complex lobby clearly carries the most weight in D.C. so there we are. More $$$...

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WoodyLee

Pouring Billions of $ into Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and many other Leeches has NOTHING to do with U.S. national Security.

Actually, it has all to do with national security. Would you like to fund Ukraine, or send troops to Europe when Putin invades a NATO country?

Feed your own people and help the needy,

Providing Free education, Free Health Care, Free Transportation, plus free meals for all Children is in the best interest of National Security .

I agree. Most of the House Republicans don't.

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Americans cant afford health care and dental treatment, 100,000 plus living in cars and streets and here we have more money for weapons in far off lands.

Well the military industrial complex lobby clearly carries the most weight in D.C. so there we are. More $$...

Very true. The result of decades of Republican pushing for the strongest military, while at the same time building a massive bureaucracy to deny a social safety net to as many people as possible so as to ensure not a single person who doesn't deserve it, gets it.

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Well the military industrial complex lobby clearly carries the most weight in D.C. so there we are. More $$...

I agree, the Homeless Lobby is not nearly as powerful. They need better advocates.

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Pouring Billions of $ into Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and many other Leeches has NOTHING to do with U.S. national Security.

Feed your own people and help the needy,

Providing Free education, Free Health Care, Free Transportation, plus free meals for all Children is in the best interest of National Security .

Letting fascist dictatorships like Russia, Iran, North Korea and China conquer the world isn't going to harm US national security?

Interesting analysis.

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Actually, it has all to do with national security. Would you like to fund Ukraine, or send troops to Europe when Putin invades a NATO country?

Putin has no intention of invading NATO countries. He also did everything he could to avoid the SMO, but the West kept pushing?

Letting fascist dictatorships like Russia, Iran, North Korea and China conquer the world isn't going to harm US national security?

Wait, what? Which country has several hundred military bases scattered all over the world? The US wants to destroy Russia because it is interfering with US's plans to further increase it's hegemony.

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Putin has no intention of invading NATO countries.

You probably believed him when he said he had no intention of invading Ukraine I'm sure.

Fool you once, shame on Putin, fool you twice, shame on you. But the rest of us weren't fooled in the first place.

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He also did everything he could to avoid the SMO, but the West kept pushing?

Let's pretend for a moment that "the west" had a plan to push NATO borders towards Russia. Did they act on it? Nope. Did such a plan ever exist? Nothing has ever been shown to indicate it outside of Russian propaganda.

Putin had plans to push Russian borders towars NATO. Did he act upon it? Yes, he acted upon his plans to invade Ukraine in a push to encroach Russian borders upon NATO.

So yeah, Putin is 100% in the wrong. NATO didn't actually do anything. Russia did.

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No chance for that circus..

It will die in congress..

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Wait, what? Which country has several hundred military bases scattered all over the world? The US wants to destroy Russia because it is interfering with US's plans to further increase it's hegemony.

Russia destroying itself is Russia's fault, not the US's. Get over it.

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Putin has no intention of invading NATO countries. 

I’ll buy that for a BRICS dollar.

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Get the funds to Israel so it can eliminate the terrorists.

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Israel gets no aid unless Ukraine does. We have plenty for both and humanitarian aid too.

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Putin has no intention of invading NATO countries. 

I’ll buy that for a BRICS dollar.

UCP -do you seriously think Putin has an intention to invade NATO ?

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Raw Beer

Actually, it has all to do with national security. Would you like to fund Ukraine, or send troops to Europe when Putin invades a NATO country?

Putin has no intention of invading NATO countries.

Yeah, right. He wasn't going to invade Ukraine, until... he did.

He also did everything he could to avoid the SMO,

Like what?

but the West kept pushing?

The West didn't do anything.

The US wants to destroy Russia because it is interfering with US's plans to further increase it's hegemony.

The US has no plans about Russia, except that it wants Russia out of Ukraine.

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Israel gets no aid unless Ukraine does. We have plenty for both and humanitarian aid too.

Ukraine is irrelevant to Israel. So is humanitarian aid.

Build more weapons with that money so we can protect our people and our allies.

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Well the military industrial complex lobby clearly carries the most weight in D.C. so there we are. More $...

I agree, the Homeless Lobby is not nearly as powerful. They need better advocates.

Its nice to agree isnt it ;-)

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UCP -do you seriously think Putin has an intention to invade NATO ?

Did you believe Putin when he said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine?

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Well the military industrial complex lobby clearly carries the most weight in D.C. so there we are. More $...

Very true. The result of decades of Republican pushing for the strongest military,....

Perhaps and yet here we have US in 2024 involved in way more military conflicts under Biden than under Trump.

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Putin has no intention of invading NATO countries.

Yeah, right. He wasn't going to invade Ukraine, until... he did.

Whats that NAFOs like to say? Oh yeah... comparing apples with oranges.

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UCP -do you seriously think Putin has an intention to invade NATO ?

I believe he will take advantage if an opportunity presents itself. More likely just the current meddling that the Russian government does, and more likely they attack a non-NATO State (Moldova or Georgia are my first bets).

Are you unable to envision a scenario in which Russia attacks a NATO state?

Also, do you think Ukraine is Russia like some posters here?

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Its nice to agree isnt it ;-)

You would be a Democrat if you were American.

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Kyiv-regime is sinking fast. This last hurrah of aid, should it pass, is the equivalent of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

The initial wave of volunteers from 2022 are KIA-MIA-WIA-POW. The rare cases of UAF servicemen still alive after this time have low morale as the new conscription law scratches the standard of automatic discharge after 36-months with discontent in the ranks spreading fast. People are fleeing the country in droves now to avoid the expanded conscription under this law, literally scurrying over the border, including border guards too.

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Whats that NAFOs like to say? Oh yeah... comparing apples with oranges.

Comparing one Kremlin lie to another Kremlin lie is not an apples-to-oranges comparison. Its the same thing.

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Perhaps and yet here we have US in 2024 involved in way more military conflicts under Biden than under Trump.

*US military not involved

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Ukraine gets the ammo it needs and it’s right back to kicking some serious Russian ass.

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The West didn't do anything.

Yeah, the West never "does anything"....well actually that does ring true now when it comes to Gaza civilians being massacred.

UCP -do you seriously think Putin has an intention to invade NATO ?

Did you believe Putin when he said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine?

Answering with a question is not answering dude ;)

The US wants to destroy Russia because it is interfering with US's plans to further increase it's hegemony.

The US has no plans about Russia, except that it wants Russia out of Ukraine.

Well no, because "inflicting long term strategic defeat on Russia" is a well stated neocon goal. And we all know who is really in charge in D.C.;)

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Well no, because "inflicting long term strategic defeat on Russia" is a well stated neocon goal. 

Sounds like a perfectly fine goal to me.

Carry on.

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Perhaps and yet here we have US in 2024 involved in way more military conflicts under Biden than under Trump.

Yes, Trump managed destabilize the world quite a bit in four years. Once again you have a Democrat cleaning up Republican messes.

Yeah, the West never "does anything"....well actually that does ring true now when it comes to Gaza civilians being massacred.

I see where you tried to redirect there...

Answering with a question is not answering dude ;)

Well, I didn't think Putin would invade Ukraine. I'm intelligent enough to have learned from that mistake. I apparently can only speak for myself.

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Kyiv-regime is sinking fast. 

Sinking? I could name at least five major Russian warships that have already sunk...

If Putin wanted to visit and view his Black Sea Fleet, he'd have to do it in a submarine...

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Its nice to agree isnt it ;-)............You would be a Democrat if you were American.

Lol, thanks UCP. I used to favor Democrats in the past but I do think world has become too messy with Biden in charge of WH. ( at least officially "in charge" )

Perhaps and yet here we have US in 2024 involved in way more military conflicts under Biden than under Trump...............US military not involved*

No "boots on the ground " officially, sure. But the US is supplying weapons, intelligence, targeting data etc...and unofficially very likely there are US military " advisors and liaisons" in Ukraine. Also shooting down Iranian missiles and drones and again continuing to send billions in weapons over the last 6 months to Israel would be considered by most as being "involved".

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Well no, because "inflicting long term strategic defeat on Russia" is a well stated neocon goal. 

If Russia hadn't decided to start invading other countries and creating internet troll farms, the world would have been happy to continue working with Russia. Things were much better when we were getting along.

But Putin wanted to create a legacy of a new Russian Empire, and decided war was going to be his best means to that end. And here we are, with Russia being quarantined from the part of the world that matters, mired in a quagmire of a 72-hour invasion.

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the US is supplying weapons, intelligence, targeting data etc...

You'd almost think Ukraine was next to a more powerful, warring nation, who had already invaded and taken over part of their country or something.

and unofficially very likely there are US military " advisors and liaisons" in Ukraine.

Kremlin fake news.

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Ukraine gets the ammo it needs and it’s right back to kicking some serious Russian ass.

And Ukraine is still going to lose in the end

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There is only one thing that puts America first: supporting ally Ukraine against our enemy Russia.

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bass4funkToday 11:14 am JST

Ukraine gets the ammo it needs and it’s right back to kicking some serious Russian ass.

And Ukraine is still going to lose in the end

A true patriot would realize that a draw would be good and even just eliminating a generation of Russians so they have to pause their imperialism would be helpful.

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the US is supplying weapons, intelligence, targeting data etc...

You'd almost think Ukraine was next to a more powerful, warring nation, who had already invaded and taken over part of their country or something.

Doesn't change the fact of the above US " involvement " which is what was being addressed.

and unofficially very likely there are US military " advisors and liaisons" in Ukraine.

Kremlin fake news.

Well, we all have different opinions on things.

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Things were much better when we were getting along.

No doubt.

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RK - well the only other option to the Democrats is the Republicans right now. Are you saying that if you were American and forced to vote, you would be voting for Trump?

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Doesn't change the fact of the above US " involvement "

After Russia invaded Crimea.

It always comes back to Putin.

Things were much better when we were getting along.

No doubt.

It's too bad Russia has rejected Ukraine's peace plan.

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Ramsey's KitchenToday 10:43 am JST

do you seriously think Putin has an intention to invade NATO ?

There is plenty of room for Russia to invade Moldova and take hybrid action against NATO countries and shipping.

Perhaps and yet here we have US in 2024 involved in way more military conflicts under Biden than under Trump.

You don't start a war when you have your asset in the White House.

No "boots on the ground " officially, sure. But the US is supplying weapons, intelligence, targeting data etc...and unofficially very likely there are US military " advisors and liaisons" in Ukraine. Also shooting down Iranian missiles and drones and again continuing to send billions in weapons over the last 6 months to Israel would be considered by most as being "involved".

Intelligence and data are unlimited resources. Weapons can be replaced fairly quickly. No new stars on the CIA wall or announcements of mysterious training accidents in the US. Hamas war unrelated unless you are acknowledging they are also a Russian ally.

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Raw BeerToday 10:28 am JST

He also did everything he could to avoid the SMO, but the West kept pushing?

Sending a demand letter to the wrong country when the troops are already lined up is not doing everything he could.

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There is always a third option.

RFK is going to siphon off a lot of Trump voters, with his antivaxxinism.

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I guess Joe saying “don’t” failed again. Israel countered Iran. “Don’t” rofl

speaking about no one caring what someone says.

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Doesn't change the fact of the above US " involvement " .......After Russia invaded Crimea.

Still a US" involvement" as opposed to "no involvement" which is what was originally discussed above.

It's too bad Russia has rejected Ukraine's peace plan.

It's equally too bad Zelensky rejects any peace talks while Putin is in charge of Russia. Doesn't bode well for the ones doing the dying on both sides, sadly.

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Still a US" involvement" as opposed to "no involvement" which is what was originally discussed above.

There was no involvement before Russia decided to expand its borders and invade Crimea.

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It's equally too bad Zelensky rejects any peace talks

He put forth a peace offer. Zelensky is a man of peace.

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It's equally too bad Zelensky rejects any peace talks while Putin is in charge of Russia.

lol It's not "equally bad." What does this "peace deal" look like for Ukraine?

Doesn't bode well for the ones doing the dying on both sides, sadly.

Yes, it is unfortunate that so many people are dying due to Putin's imperialist land grab.

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There was no involvement before Russia decided to expand its borders and invade Crimea.

Still a current involvement.

It's equally too bad Zelensky rejects any peace talks.....He put forth a peace offer. Zelensky is a man of peace.

A totally unrealistic offer which was designed to be unacceptable from get go. Putin also stated Russia is ready for peace talks. Both of them have their "offers".

A true patriot would realize that a draw would be good and even just eliminating a generation of Russians so they have to pause their imperialism would be helpful.

Millions of Americans are against sending more weapons and prolonging the conflict. Are you unilaterally calling them all unpatriotic traitors again because you don't agree with their opinion?

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The Ukraine peace offer no different than a soccer team losing 8-0 with 10 minutes left. But offering to finish the match now if they can declare themselves the winners and reset everything back to 0-0 like it never happened.

nope. That’s a no go.

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Ramsey's Kitchen

Very true. The result of decades of Republican pushing for the strongest military,....

Perhaps and yet here we have US in 2024 involved in way more military conflicts under Biden than under Trump.

There aren't any military conflicts under Biden.

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Ukraine gets the ammo it needs and it’s right back to kicking some serious Russian ass.

And Ukraine is still going to lose in the end

Better listen to him - given his predictions in 2018, 2020, and 2022, this poster is an expert in "losing"...

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Ramsey's Kitchen

The West didn't do anything.

Yeah, the West never "does anything"....well actually that does ring true now when it comes to Gaza civilians being massacred.

I think you might find that is Israel.

Did you believe Putin when he said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine?

Answering with a question is not answering dude ;)

Actually it is. Many people said that Putin would never invade Ukraine. It did. Now many people are saying that Putin would never invade a NATO country... Can you see where this is going?

The US has no plans about Russia, except that it wants Russia out of Ukraine.

Well no, because "inflicting long term strategic defeat on Russia" is a well stated neocon goal.

No it isn't. If Putin not want his army depleted, he can stop the imperial invasion.

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Perhaps and yet here we have US in 2024 involved in way more military conflicts under Biden than under Trump.

There aren't any military conflicts under Biden.

Sure dude.

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An Israeli missile has struck Iran with full force.

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BlacklabelToday 11:52 am JST

The Ukraine peace offer no different than a soccer team losing 8-0 with 10 minutes left. But offering to finish the match now if they can declare themselves the winners and reset everything back to 0-0 like it never happened.

nope. That’s a no go.

This is not a soccer match, this is the Ukrainian's people life free from servitude. They aren't going to shake any Russian hands until they are detached from Russian bodies.

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Ramsey's Kitchen

West does nothing when it comes Gaza civilians being killed.

Apart from brokering ceasefire talks, authorising airdrops of aid, setting up a port for aid, and $9.1 billion in this bill for humanitarian needs...

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West does nothing when it comes Gaza civilians being killed.

Apart from brokering ceasefire talks, authorising airdrops of aid, setting up a port for aid, and $9.1 billion in this bill for humanitarian needs...

And remind us again how many billion$$ in arms shipments to Israel to continue the Gaza carnage?

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Always relevant to keep in mind the conflict is between Moscow/Donbass allies and the Kyiv-regime/radical nationalists/their sponsors. The war isn't Russia against the Ukrainian people but the regime.

Things are often simplified in the western narrative but Russia has a right to self-defense and the sooner the former is removed, an acceptable two-state solution might be feasible.

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