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A disgraceful tradeoff to get Republicans to due their duty, but whatever it takes to get this done.

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*do their

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The U.S. isn’t running out of money. Republicans are just being scummy

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Just facing reality, the Ukrainians cannot "win". Throwing money and lives away is not a smart move.

The US/NATO miscalculated and lost. Get over it, they did Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan....

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“The world needs to be very concerned about what’s happening here,” said Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., on Monday night. “Republicans have decided to hold Ukraine funding hostage to a domestic political priority that is amongst the hardest in American politics to solve.”

The problem with the Republicans is that they just aren't very good at writing legislation. They find it easy to complain about the problem, but solving the problem, in a humane and thoughtful way is too difficult for them.

So, I don't hold out much hope that they can come up with any suggestions that will help.

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The US/NATO miscalculated and lost

Lol Yes. the US/NATO miscalculated by invading Ukraine. Oh wait, that's Russia. Remind me how many Russians have died compared to how Americans in this conflict? But the US "miscalculated." Absurd. I don't think even you actually believe that.

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Mr Kipling

The US/NATO miscalculated and lost. Get over it, they did Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan....

The US have nothing to do with Russia's imperialism in Ukraine. NATO have nothing to do with Russia's imperialism in Ukraine. Neither the US nor NATO have miscalculated.

The only person who miscalculated is Putin. He thought it would be done in under a week, including removing (more likely murdering) Zelensky and installing a puppet president and taking control of the whole country.

He failed in this and hence, he has lost the strategic war.

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The problem with the Republicans is that they just aren't very good at writing legislation.

Dems are the last people to even make that comment, lol.

They find it easy to complain about the problem, but solving the problem, in a humane and thoughtful way is too difficult for them.

The big difference is, and thankfully they ponder what is in the best interest to the American taxpayer, right now, border security or lack of it (to put it more bluntly) is more vital and top priority over Ukraine. That nation has received more than enough aid from us, it’s enough, we need to focus on our national interests, safety and security first and foremost.

So, I don't hold out much hope that they can come up with any suggestions that will help.

Not when it comes to Ukraine and I pray they don’t.

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o ensuring the future of Ukraine and democracy.

The US Republican Party continues to show their disregard for democray (see Jan. 6, and their unfounded beliefs that their idol, the cosplaying Floridian - a convisted sexual predator, won the election, while they continue to undermine voting rights in states they control. The US Republicans, like so many other extreme rightists around the world, want to weaken democracies and replace them with dictator-led authoritarian regimes. Their motto: let's return to the 'feudal era, this time with those that have the most fossil fuels ruling everyone'.

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bass4funk

The problem with the Republicans is that they just aren't very good at writing legislation.

Dems are the last people to even make that comment, lol.

What are you talking about? The Dem's passed the American Rescue Plan, the Infrastructure Bill, the CHIPS Act, the Inflation Reduction Act.

Since the Republicans have taken over the house, what legislation have they passed?

The big difference is, and thankfully they ponder what is in the best interest to the American taxpayer, right now, border security or lack of it (to put it more bluntly) is more vital and top priority over Ukraine.

No they don't. They are equal priority among the members of the GOP house.

That nation has received more than enough aid from us, it’s enough,

No. It isn't. The Pentagon has told you that.

we need to focus on our national interests, safety and security first and foremost.

National interests, safety and national security rely on aid to Ukraine.security

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Correct. Our own border has priority over any other foreign country’s border.

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The US Republican Party continues to show their disregard for democray

Democracy? The silencing of conservatives, on social media, religious rights curtailed or surveillance their activities, two-tier justice system, representing and allowing one side to give a political viewpoint, using the IRS to spy and monitor conservatives

(see Jan. 6, and their unfounded beliefs that their idol, the cosplaying Floridian - a convisted sexual predator, won the election, while they continue to

Sounds more like an emotional outburst rather and an inaccurate description of the former president.

undermine voting rights in states they control.

Democrats.

The US Republicans, like so many other extreme rightists around the world, want to weaken democracies

Wrong party.

and replace them with dictator-led authoritarian regimes.

Wait, what and how would you describe this administration? Dictatorial? Not listening to their constituents and just doing what they like and then they wonder why people don’t want to vote for them.

Their motto: let's return to the 'feudal era, this time with those that have the most fossil fuels ruling everyone.

Yes, let’s allow China and India to advance their nations and we go back and regress to faulty unreliable renewables that need quite a bit of fossil fuels to run.

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Correct. Our own border has priority over any other foreign country’s border.

I think we can walk and chew gum.

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The problem with the Republicans is that they just aren't very good at writing legislation..

Dems are the last people to even make that comment, lol.

MAGA, the FC and cohorts are not good at reading and writing period.

And I am not the first person to make that comment.

The GOP tactics of obstructionism and attaching riders and combining measures is why the American people cannot get good things. Add that to the numerous other MAGA tactics like their Supermen Court stacking and hyporcrisy.

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What are you talking about? The Dem's passed the American Rescue Plan, the Infrastructure Bill, the CHIPS Act, the Inflation Reduction Act.

Yes…

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/joe-bidens-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-19-trillion-disaster

https://www.westernjournal.com/just-ridiculously-wasteful-items-enormous-infrastructure-bill/

https://www.cagw.org/thewastewatcher/inflation-reduction-act-fiscal-disaster

Since the Republicans have taken over the house, what legislation have they passed?

No they don't.

If they didn’t Pelosi would still hold the gavel, indisputable and irrefutable

No. It isn't. The Pentagon has told you that.

Yes! No one is listening to the establishment.

National interests, safety and national security rely on aid to Ukraine.security

No, Our borders and Israel takes top priority and is in our safety and national interests over Ukraine, let Europe deal with it at this point.

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Can your comment be any more generic?

we are doing both at the same time if we put them both in the same bill.

why would one go first and we have to hope/wait for the other?

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The silencing of conservatives, on social media, religious rights curtailed or surveillance their activities, two-tier justice system, representing and allowing one side to give a political viewpoint, using the IRS to spy and monitor conservatives

Poor conservatives, womp womp. Always the persecuted victims.

Hope the House GOP musters the strength to stand up to Putin and support Ukraine.

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Supermen Court stacking 

definitely something I want to hear more about.

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Mr KiplingToday  07:05 am JST

The US/NATO miscalculated and lost. Get over it, they did Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan....

Just because you jump up and down in glee and shout "you lost!" doesn't change the fact that US troops are in Iraq and Syria to this day.

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Poor conservatives, womp womp. Always the persecuted victims.

We say the same about House minority Democrats, now you get it.

Hope the House GOP musters the strength to stand up to Putin and support Ukraine.

I hope they don’t, I hope they can push Europe to do more.

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https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/joe-bidens-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-19-trillion-disaster

Talk about fake corporate sponsored news by the infamous Mercer family.

Stop with the Heritage links.

At least 66 former Heritage employees landed positions within the Trump administration, and at least two senior Heritage officials (including founder and former president Ed Feulner) played influential roles on the Trump transition team. 141516 Heritage recommendations were used to create two of the Trump administration’s most significant policy successes: the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 and the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement, an update of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

Nobody takes them seriously except corporacratic stooges looking for more corporate welfare and tax breaks.

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we are doing both at the same time if we put them both in the same bill.

Well good on you for agreeing to help Ukraine.

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bass4funkToday  07:28 am JST

That nation has received more than enough aid from us, it’s enough, we need to focus on our national interests, safety and security first and foremost.

Ukraine quite literally has not received enough because it has been impossible to provide them credible air power that can take on Su-57s. That doesn't mean the war is lost, it just means you have to stiffen your resolve personally a little bit, as someone not in the war zone.

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Well good on you for agreeing to help Ukraine.

Only if you are also securing our border with an equal amount of money. That’s why both are in the bill, not just yours.

cause you will conveniently “forget” about mine.

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--Poor conservatives, womp womp. Always the persecuted victims.

We say the same about House minority Democrats, now you get it.

No, I don't get it. Read your own post. You were moaning on about how persecuted conservatives are.

In case you forgot what you posted:

The silencing of conservatives, on social media, religious rights curtailed or surveillance their activities, two-tier justice system, representing and allowing one side to give a political viewpoint, using the IRS to spy and monitor conservatives

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bass4funkToday  08:04 am JST

What are you talking about? The Dem's passed the American Rescue Plan, the Infrastructure Bill, the CHIPS Act, the Inflation Reduction Act.

Yes…

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/joe-bidens-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-19-trillion-disaster

https://www.westernjournal.com/just-ridiculously-wasteful-items-enormous-infrastructure-bill/

https://www.cagw.org/thewastewatcher/inflation-reduction-act-fiscal-disaster

Looks like a bunch of loser conservative sites to me. Meanwhile republicans are lining up to take credit for the infrastructure bill.

Since the Republicans have taken over the house, what legislation have they passed?

Probably a bunch of stuff that was dead on arrival because they don't understand the word "bipartisan".

No. It isn't. The Pentagon has told you that.

Yes! No one is listening to the establishment. 

Do you also not wear seatbelts or helmets on motorcycles because the establishment told you it was a good idea?

National interests, safety and national security rely on aid to Ukraine.security

No, Our borders and Israel takes top priority and is in our safety and national interests over Ukraine, let Europe deal with it at this point.

Well you got your pointless Israel aid. That should have been enough to unlock Ukraine's aid.

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The big difference is, and thankfully they ponder what is in the best interest to the American taxpayer

Conservatives are the last people to even make that comment lol smh.

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bass4funk

What are you talking about? The Dem's passed the American Rescue Plan, the Infrastructure Bill, the CHIPS Act, the Inflation Reduction Act.

Yes…

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/joe-bidens-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-19-trillion-disaster

https://www.westernjournal.com/just-ridiculously-wasteful-items-enormous-infrastructure-bill/

https://www.cagw.org/thewastewatcher/inflation-reduction-act-fiscal-disaster

You may not agree with the policy, as these radical right wing sites don't, but the Dem's know how to write legislation.

I'll ask again.

Since the Republicans have taken over the house, what legislation have they passed?

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cause you will conveniently “forget” about mine.

I don't think they'll forget. Once they take the house back next year, they'll probably reverse the moronic amnesty changes.

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Ukraine quite literally has not received enough because it has been impossible to provide them credible air power that can take on Su-57s.

I understand, ask Germany.

That doesn't mean the war is lost, it just means you have to stiffen your resolve personally a little bit, as someone not in the war zone.

I am very calm, but I’m more worried about my country.

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Once they take the house back next year, 

Yes please give us what we want now thinking you will just take it back when you “win the house near year”? Will take that deal all day long.

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Johnson, just like his predecessors, is walking around on borrowed time. The crazies in the Kook Caucus that ambushed and knifed Kevin are lining up to knife him too. They thrive on chaos and disfunction - and want a government shutdown and all the harm that would do to the country.

Shut down the government so they can go on Fox and Newsmaxx and rant and rave like the maniacs they are - it's all about the performance, not the substance...

Putin, Xi, Kim, and The Mullahs all love these Repubs...

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But that isn't required, because he won't win the election.

then why do all the leftists keep mentioning jail like it’s your only remaining hope?

cause almost all polls show him…winning. And it frightens you.

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bass4funk

Since the Republicans have taken over the house, what legislation have they passed?

https://www.axios.com/2023/09/29/government-shutdown-house-spending-bill-mccarthy

Yup. A measly spending bill that they struggled to pass and only kicks the problem down the road to early next year.

Pathetic.

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Conservatives are the last people to even make that comment lol smh.

Take it from a non-American.

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Blacklabel

But that isn't required, because he won't win the election.

then why do all the leftists keep mentioning jail like it’s your only remaining hope?

Because we want consequences for Trump's actions. We are pro law and order.

cause almost all polls show him…winning. And it frightens you.

I disregards the polls at this stage, they as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike. I'm definitely not frightened.

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Yup. A measly spending bill that they struggled to pass and only kicks the problem down the road to early next year.

You asked if they passed any bills, the answer is, yes.

Pathetic.

Then don’t move the goalpost.

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Conservatives are the last people to even make that comment lol smh.

Take it from a non-American.

Do or don’t. No need to get upset about it every time.

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Legislating? Mike has his hands too full trying to keep his own caucus from assaulting each other...

In a private meeting with House Speaker Mike Johnson last week, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene accused fellow Georgia Republican Rep. Richard McCormick of getting physically aggressive with her, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter – a charge that McCormick has denied, saying it was a “friendly gesture.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-alleged-male-212532814.html

First they call each other "lying dogs", then they have fistfights on the House floor, now they are assaulting each other in private...

No wonder the MAGA-Repubs are enthralled with WWE - it's violent, it's loud, and it's fake...just like they are...

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Conservatives are the last people to even make that comment lol smh.

Well, you’re not going to stop it, lol, but the fact of matter remains, and that’s Ukraine has received enough money from the taxpayers, and I’m glad that Johnson, despite liberal, whining, and rhetoric is standing his ground, and it’s not gonna be bullied by the globalist Democrats to push for more aid for Ukraine, when the first priority should be securing our southern border, funding our police sending back illegals and focusing on our national interest and growing safety concerns.

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Well, we sure learned a lot about Johnson with this stunt...

Speaker Mike Johnson said Tuesday that House Republicans are blurring footage from the Capitol attack before releasing it publicly because they don't want Jan. 6 rioters to be charged with crimes.

"We have to blur some faces of persons who participated in the events of that day because we don’t want them to be retaliated against and to be charged by the DOJ," Johnson said Tuesday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/speaker-mike-johnson-says-hes-224854421.html

Can you believe this? The Speaker of the House protecting domestic terrorists from being held to justice....this is what the former "law and order" Repub party has become...

This violent mob invaded HIS house - it put 140 of HIS police officers in the hospital - it went looking with a noose to hang HIS Vice President...and this traitor is protecting them...

Indict him for obstruction of justice and give him a cell at Leavenworth next to his Ultra MAGA King...

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The republicans supporting a dictator like Putin speaks volumes.

Shame on you!

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The republicans supporting a dictator like Putin speaks volumes. 

Shame on you!

Not one Republican supports Putin, nor do many of them support Zelenskyy and that's a good thing.

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Remind me how many Russians have died compared to how Americans in this conflict? But the US "miscalculated." Absurd. I don't think even you actually believe that.

Ukrainians died instead of Americans. And you know it perfectly well! First, America turned Ukraine into cattle, and then used it as cannon fodder.

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Not one Republican supports Putin, nor do many of them support Zelenskyy and that's a good thing.

You're right - it's not one - it's a whole bunch...

“So Putin is now saying it’s independent, a large section of Ukraine. I said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s the strongest peace force.” Fmr. President Donald Trump

“[Putin is] taking over a country for two dollars worth of sanctions. I’d say that’s pretty smart.” Fmr. President Donald Trump

“NATO has been supplying the neo-Nazis in Ukraine with powerful weapons and extensive training on how to use them. What the hell is going with these #NATONazis?” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)

“You see Ukraine just kept poking the bear, poking the bear, which is Russia, and Russia invaded. And the hard truth is … there is no win for Ukraine here. Russia is being very successful in their invasion.” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)

“I think we should probably take the side of Russia, if we have to choose between Russia and Ukraine.” Tucker Carlson, FOX News

“Ukraine is not our friend, and Russia is not our enemy.” Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ)

“Putin–unlike someone else we know–LOVES his country & FIGHTS for its interests” Dinesh D’Souza

https://accountability.gop/ukraine-quotes/

Lot's more...you should read them...

The Repub Party is nothing more than the Putin Adoration Club...

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Ukrainians died instead of Americans.

Right, because Russia invaded. And you know it perfectly well!

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You can't possibly know that.

But you can say emphatically that they don't? Huh? Lol

You're right - it's not one - it's a whole bunch...

No, not one.

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Republican constituents are probably begging for some sort of positive change that directly affects them so they don't have to live off food stamps in complete poverty, meanwhile Johnson is like nah, y'all get more useless wall. Bravo, a true pioneer in the art of leadership.

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y'all get more useless wall.

And you are saying we sending your money to foreigners in another country to grift from. Any difference?

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all you need to know about this conflict in short:

it was ignited by USA and west/NATO since coup d etat in UA in 2014.

UA people have died in name of US and NATO interests so this is is so called a "proxy war" USA vs RU.

no sancions,no freezing of financial funds,no media one sided propaganda have helped to Kiev junta to defeat RU.at the other hands UA became one big ruin mrecifully depends up to funds from USA and west.

once funds from USA/west will get dry this conflict will end.

USA is looking for way out of problem they have ignited and caused without loosing own face so why we see this low rank drama with financing now.

all-in all

UA have zero chance to win and RU is not on its knees at all.this conflict have no military solution and will end around negotiation table sooner or later.

howgh

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This man isn't worth the title of a House Speaker.

Besides other failures he now wants to release only blurred pictures of the J6 "event".

Preventing prosecution? Appeasing Trump and others like that one? Sabotaging?

Most definitely all he is good at!

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Eastman

all you need to know about this conflict in short:

it was ignited by USA and west/NATO since coup d etat in UA in 2014.

There was no coup d'etat in 2014 and the US/NATO weren't involved.

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@bass4funk

But bass, by not helping Ukraine you’re supporting Putin. Besides, a strong and friendly Ukraine would be an excellent counterbalance to Russia.

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Russia will not tolerate an embittered, hostile madhouse at its side. The madhouse, which has been increasing its military equipment since 2014

Right, because Russia has been sending weapons to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians since 2014. There wouldn't be a war in Ukraine were it not for Putin's miscalculation.

As they say, the Mexicans will avenge Russia. It is not the evening yet

Who says this? lmao

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This man isn't worth the title of a House Speaker.

Neither was Nancy, but hey....

Besides other failures he now wants to release only blurred pictures of the J6 "event".

Well, he can, he's House speaker, when the Dems get the gavel then they can dictate the rules the way they see fit.

Preventing prosecution? Appeasing Trump and others like that one? Sabotaging?

But when the Dems did it that was ok??

Most definitely all he is good at!

And more.

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Just facing reality, the Ukrainians cannot "win". Throwing money and lives away is not a smart move.

The US/NATO miscalculated and lost. Get over it, they did Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan....

The Chinese economy has already collapsed twice, but at least the Ukrainians are winning victory after victory in their stunning counteroffensive against the Russians who as we all know are on the verge of giving up. Move on and get over it.

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The local exterts have absolutely no sense of humor. But they are masters of talking unsubstantiated nonsense

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by not helping Ukraine you’re supporting Putin.

No, it means, I'm focusing on my country first, we gave more than enough, I care about our homeless and vets and this administration puts Ukraine over our nation and national interests.

Besides, a strong and friendly Ukraine would be an excellent counterbalance to Russia.

That will never happen, but then there's Europe.

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The local exterts have absolutely no sense of humor. But they are masters of talking unsubstantiated nonsense

Projection much?

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It really just boils down to this;

Biden: Putin is a "Killer"...

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/17/biden-says-putin-is-a-killer-will-pay-for-trying-to-help-trump-win-election.html

Trump: Putin is a "genius"...

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923

All you need to know...

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Eastman,

I'm afraid I have not enough time:) The punishment here is quick: either ban or delete. Shaking hands, bro!

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Biden: Putin is a "Killer"...

Yes

Trump: Putin is a "genius"...

Yes.

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Biden: Putin is a "Killer"...

Yes

Trump: Putin is a "genius"...

Yes.

MAGA-logic... The same as "The COVID vaccine is safe and it works - and it's poison and will kill you too"...

ROFL...

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Kuku

no sense for humour or irony

little or no experience from UA or RU and life there,also zero knoweldge of language,culture

big gaps in history knowledge and serious issues with critical thinking to put A and B together

did I forgot anything?

most important is to keep line of one and only official narrative,be progressive,liberal proLGBTI and ruspohobian.

shaking both hands from here.

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MAGA-logic... The same as "The COVID vaccine is safe and it works -

They think what they want.

and it's poison and will kill you too"...

They think what the want.

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I'm focusing on my country first, we gave more than enough,

Cut and run appeasement. The GOP doesn't care if Putin runs roughshod over Ukraine.

I care about our homeless 

There's more than enough evidence to show that you don't care, and that you don't believe the federal government should spend money on social welfare ("cradle to grave entitlements" as you call them).

this administration puts Ukraine over our nation and national interests.

Not even close.

American Rescue Plan Act -- $1.9 trillion pumped into the American economy, saved it from collapse, and reduced the poverty rate by 44%

Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act -- $1 trillion for improving infrastructure, created 600,000 jobs

Inflation Reduction Act -- $430 billion invested in the future of America

Money spent on Ukraine = $77 billion

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Cut and run appeasement.

Biden already the peace in capitulated to not only Ukraine and Russia, but our other adversary as well, so that ship has already sailed.

The GOP doesn't care if Putin runs roughshod over Ukraine.

It’s about caring, he’s going to do it no matter what we do.

There's more than enough evidence to show that you don't care,

I doubt it.

and that you don't believe the federal government should spend money on social welfare ("cradle to grave entitlements" as you call them).

They should be cut, and they should be limited, depending on the household and social situation and needs. But a blank check….out of the question!

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Projection much?

Excuse my non-basic English. Not much but quite representative.

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American Rescue Plan Act -- $1.9 trillion pumped into the American economy, saved it from collapse, and reduced the poverty rate by 44%

No, it didn’t. The Census Bureau reported a rise in the U.S. poverty rate last year, marking the first increase in 13 years. In 2022, the poverty rate reached 12.4%, reflecting a 4.6% increase from the previous year, as indicated by the Supplemental Poverty Measure (SPM), which considers government programs and tax credits aimed at assisting low-income families.

Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act -- $1 trillion for improving infrastructure, created 600,000 jobs

Nope:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-needs-to-improve-the-quality-of-infrastructure-jobs-not-just-create-more-of-them/

Inflation Reduction Act -- $430 billion invested in the future of America

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adammillsap/2022/08/10/inflation-still-high-and-bidens-policies-are-not-helping/

Money spent on Ukraine = $77 billion

I like how you think that’s just chump change, imagine if we could apply that money to our homeless or our needy, that’s a lot of money to work with, we shouldn’t send any more to Ukraine, it’s enough.

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Excuse my non-basic English. Not much but quite representative.

Lol

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like how you think that’s just chump change,

It is chump change compared to the $800+ billion the US defense department gets every year.

imagine if we could apply that money to our homeless or our needy, that’s a lot of money to work with, we shouldn’t send any more to Ukraine, it’s enough.

Well what's stopping the GOP from helping the homeless or needy? We both know good and well the GOP had 0 interest in helping the poor and homeless.

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MAGA-logic... The same as "The COVID vaccine is safe and it works -

They think what they want.

So is it the truth or a lie?

and it's poison and will kill you too"...

They think what the want.

That's what you have stated here - so why is Trump telling you to take poison?

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So is it the truth or a lie?

Don’t know, and don’t care, I didn’t take the vaccine. No need.

That's what you have stated here - so why is Trump telling you to take poison?

Heck, if I know.

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

How is the house doing on the fentanyl overdoes, the homeless, reducing mass murders, and reducing poverty?

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quercetumToday 10:40 am JST

Just facing reality, the Ukrainians cannot "win". Throwing money and lives away is not a smart move.

The US/NATO miscalculated and lost. Get over it, they did Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan....

The Chinese economy has already collapsed twice, but at least the Ukrainians are winning victory after victory in their stunning counteroffensive against the Russians who as we all know are on the verge of giving up. Move on and get over it.

This but unironically. China just got its credit rating downgraded.

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bass4funkToday 10:53 am JST

Besides, a strong and friendly Ukraine would be an excellent counterbalance to Russia.

That will never happen, but then there's Europe.

They already hate Russia with the burning of a thousand suns. If the rest of eastern Europe is any indication, they will not shy away from the required military spending, either. You have to have the fortitude to help them in their time of need, though.

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EastmanToday 10:21 am JST

If you ever wonder why you always get a response from me, it is because you post some of the most egregious statements about Ukraine that will not go unchallenged.

all you need to know about this conflict in short:

it was ignited by USA and west/NATO since coup d etat in UA in 2014.

UA people have died in name of US and NATO interests so this is is so called a "proxy war" USA vs RU.

Still Putin's War launched for fascist reasons. Ukraine knows who started it and who their allies are.

no sancions,no freezing of financial funds,no media one sided propaganda have helped to Kiev junta to defeat RU.at the other hands UA became one big ruin mrecifully depends up to funds from USA and west.

Nobody expected sanctions to work overnight. We've been working on Cuba for 65 years. The key is to make Russia into another Cuba so that the citizens have something to think about when they select their fuhrers.

once funds from USA/west will get dry this conflict will end.

You don't know that. Ukraine will fight harder than Russian convicts sent into a foreign meat grinder.

USA is looking for way out of problem they have ignited and caused without loosing own face so why we see this low rank drama with financing now.

We've lost zero troops. I'd say our face is the same as it was in Feb. 24th, 2022. Is Russia's the same or does Putin have some explaining to do where all of the young men went and why Russia only got scraps while fighting #30 on the military expenditure list? Even India is wondering if the junk they are buying from Russia is actually functional.

all-in all

UA have zero chance to win and RU is not on its knees at all.this conflict have no military solution and will end around negotiation table sooner or later.

Ukraine isn't on its knees either. Let us know when you acknowledge the reality that NATO weapons are in Ukraine to stay.

howgh

Kuku

no sense for humour or irony

little or no experience from UA or RU and life there,also zero knoweldge of language,culture

We know savagery when we see it, and a war for territory is pure savagery.

most important is to keep line of one and only official narrative,be progressive,liberal proLGBTI and ruspohobian.

I'm sorry the LGBTs are giving you such a tough time preventing your takeover of Ukraine.

shaking both hands from here.

I'm glad you have a friend.

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