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House to vote on restraining Trump’s actions against Iran

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Pelosi never rests, but she should go take care of the State she represents instead of trying to hogtie her nation continuously.

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Agree.  I don't remember Obama's every assassination and carpet bombing and drone strike being subjected to the same hysteria and interference.

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It’ll never pass.

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symbolic gesture of opposition by Democrats, as everything else.

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There’s that “urgent” word again from impeachment*

“Members of Congress have serious, urgent concerns about the Administration’s decision to.....(ANYTHING- fill in the blank)

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Sen. Mike Lee was rather pissed off - and he's a Repub from Utah! Read his full remarks - they're both humorous and frightening.

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Sen. Mike Lee was rather pissed off - and he's a Repub from Utah! Read his full remarks - they're both humorous and frightening.

He’ll get over it.

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Republicans: “Dems are disappointed Trump is not firing back and starting war!”

Democrats: try restrict Trumps action in against Iran.

Republicans: surprised Pikachu

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They are Dems “urgently” voting on something that is already done. Which doesn’t have any force of law behind it anyway. Waste of time.

Mike Lee will be fine. He and Rand Paul always trying to get more power to Congress and less to the other branches. Understandable as they will never be in any other branch except legislative.

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., announced the planned vote in a one-page statement that said last week's drone strike that killed Gen. Qassem Soleimani was “provocative and disproportionate."

I'd like to see her say that to the face of a U.S. soldier who has been maimed, or to the face of a family member who was killed by a roadside bomb, courtesy of the terrorist general. She never will, of course, she doesn't have the guts.

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Sarge,

For all his faults, Suleimani was instrumental in leading the Iranian war on ISIS. With their biggest enemy now out of the way, we can expect ISIS to reassemble, and there will be many more casualties.

Trump's attempted tough-guy distraction from his well-deserved impeachment was, in the words of Talleyrand, worse than a crime - it was a blunder.

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I'd like to see her say that to the face of a U.S. soldier who has been maimed, or to the face of a family member who was killed by a roadside bomb, courtesy of the terrorist general. She never will, of course, she doesn't have the guts.

I’d like Trump to repeat his idea that he prefers war heroes who weren’t captured to the face of a soldier who was captured.

Old Bonespurs would fill his 46-inch waist trousers.

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Suleimani was instrumental in leading the Iranian war on ISIS. With their biggest enemy now out of the way, we can expect ISIS to reassemble, and there will be many more casualties.

Soleimani wasn't the only one fighting ISIS, and he didn't do the anti-ISIS coalition any favors by having his proxies kill and maim U.S. troops. So there goes that argument.

Trump's attempted tough-guy distraction from his well-deserved impeachment was, in the words of Talleyrand, worse than a crime - it was a blunder.

The ridiculous Impeachment Lite is going nowhere fast, hehe, and by the way, if the impeachment is so well-deserved, why is Pelosi stalling giving the articles to the Senate where they can vote to remove him?

And no, his decision not to retaliate against Iran's missile salvo which could have killed U.S. troops, and give Iran an off ramp was not a blunder, it was a magnanimous gesture in the interest of peace. You don't like peace? Jeez...

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SerranoToday  04:40 pm JST

I'd like to see her say that to the face...

Ever repeat any of the stuff you write online in actual face-to-face conversations?

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I'd like to see her say that to the face of a U.S. soldier who has been maimed, or to the face of a family member who was killed by a roadside bomb, courtesy of the terrorist general. She never will, of course, she doesn't have the guts.

Trumpists should spare us the crocodile tears. If they care so much, join up and serve. That's what they're always telling other people to do, when it comes to refugees/the wall etc.

The dishonesty and moral cowardice of Trump supporters is astonishing. Even now.

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Trumpists should spare us the crocodile tears. If they care so much, join up and

serve.

Many do, have done, now what’s the liberals.

That's what they're always telling other people to do, when it comes to refugees/the wall etc.

So we should just skip on border security and let everyone in, No thanks

The dishonesty and moral cowardice of Trump supporters is astonishing. Even now.

No, we’re honest as well as loyal and that will never change

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Wise move by Pelosi - we must contain the NEOCONs at every turn.

We know what the Repub NEOCONs did in Iraq - Cheney and Rumsfeld faked the intel to start the war of choice. They overthrew Saddam, a bad guy, who hated and opposed Iran. What did we get after trillions of dollars and 35K US military members killed or injured? A country more aligned with Iran that just voted for us to leave after 17 years....

And now the Great Orange Emperor in the White House has disrobed and shown us that he's just as big a NEOCON as W. Wonder how many defense stocks he owns - if we could see his tax returns maybe we'd know...

More worrying, his demented news conference today where he slurred his words and looked like some doddering old fool showed how unfit for office he is.

Toss every Repub out in 2020 so the NEOCONs can't start more wars of choice - ones that just fatten their defense stock wallets, get our brave soldiers killed, and turn more countries against us...

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Wise move by Pelosi - we must contain the NEOCONs at every turn.

Good luck trying.

We know what the Repub NEOCONs did in Iraq - Cheney and Rumsfeld faked the intel to start the war of choice. They overthrew Saddam, a bad guy, who hated and opposed Iran.

No one misses the butcher of Baghdad.

What did we get after trillions of dollars and 35K US military members killed or injured? A country more aligned with Iran that just voted for us to leave after 17 years....

Anyone thinking the US is going to leave is just dealing with reality.

And now the Great Orange Emperor in the White House has disrobed and shown us that he's just as big a NEOCON

If so, good!

Toss every Repub out in 2020

That definitely won’t happen, now on the Democrats side....there’s more than a very high possibility.

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"restraining orders".... gotta love the hamfisted propaganda word choice.

In the event, why were there no restraining orders on Hillary Clinton when she destroyed Libya?

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Wise move by Pelosi - we must contain the NEOCONs at every turn.

Good luck trying.

Hey, thought you were a Trumper - you know, an anti-NEOCON? Guess you've flipped on that too...

So you're now a NEOCON supporter?

We know what the Repub NEOCONs did in Iraq - Cheney and Rumsfeld faked the intel to start the war of choice. They overthrew Saddam, a bad guy, who hated and opposed Iran.

No one misses the butcher of Baghdad.

Maybe he would have taken out Sulemanei - wasn't that what Donnie meant when he said to bring the troops home and let others do the fighting?

And looks like you disagree with Trump who said the Iraq War was the worst mistake in our history...

What did we get after trillions of dollars and 35K US military members killed or injured? A country more aligned with Iran that just voted for us to leave after 17 years....

Anyone thinking the US is going to leave is just dealing with reality.

Tell that to the Iraqi Congress...and I guess we're no longer for "bringing the troops home"...one more flip...

And now the Great Orange Emperor in the White House has disrobed and shown us that he's just as big a NEOCON

If so, good!

Hey - big news - Trump is now a NEOCON as is all of his supporters! All that talk over the past three years about "no more war", and "No more blood in the sand" - it was all BS...just like everything else they have said.

Tomorrow they are coming out for gun control and a women's right to choose...

Toss every Repub out in 2020

That definitely won’t happen, now on the Democrats side....there’s more than a very high possibility.

Thanks for your analysis Mr NEOCON....

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"restraining orders".... gotta love the hamfisted propaganda word choice.

In the event, why were there no restraining orders on Hillary Clinton when she destroyed Libya.

She completely made a mess of the region, no doubt about it. But they need to feed the beast and the liberals never cared about the military....until Trump came into office.

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Anyone thinking the US is going to leave is just dealing with reality.

Do you do it deliberately, bass?

Invalid CSRF

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So you're now a NEOCON supporter?

Irrelevant, but I do think Trump should tap into his inner Clinton and Bush.

Maybe he would have taken out Sulemanei - wasn't that what Donnie meant when he said to bring the troops home and let others do the fighting?

Democrats for years and years wanted out of these wars, Trump tries their media liberal Democrat supporting surrogates have to come up with a counter narrative, how dare he bring them home! He should and needs to stay. Just like a pancake flipping.

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"restraining orders".... gotta love the hamfisted propaganda word choice.

Yea, as in the same kind of orders Stormy and McDougal had to take out....

In the event, why were there no restraining orders on Hillary Clinton when she destroyed Libya?

Hillary kept her word and showed she had more guts than "Blinkee" Donnie ever had....

Trump: Here's my Red Line - I am going to destroy 52 sites in Iran if you retaliate. Iran: OK, here's a 22 cruise missile salvo in retaliation....

Trump: "All is well"

Can we all say "Caveman"....

Now everyone from Kim to Xi knows Donnie is just a big __, you know, that thing he likes to grab....

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So you're now a NEOCON supporter?

Irrelevant,

Sure, just like all the other things Trump and you said you believed in - then flipped on. Trump and Trumpers have dissed the RINOs and NEOCONs for four years - now they love them...

But we made big news today - Trumpers have admitted Trump is a NEOCON - and they are too...

Just call them all war mongers....

but I do think Trump should tap into his inner Clinton and Bush.

He's already tapped into his inner Cheney and Rumsfeld - that's why the intel justifying the Sulemanei strike was likely faked...

Guess the new chant is Trump/Pence 2020 - The NEOCONs are back! Time for more wars!

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lincolnman:

Yea, as in the same kind of orders Stormy and McDougal had to take out....

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, and neither do you, I suspect. Fact is "restraining order" is a completely polemical term here.

Hillary kept her word and showed she had more guts than "Blinkee" Donnie ever had....

I what way? By illegally destroying Libya? By laughing at the rape and murder of the leader of a country? By letting her embassy staff get murdered, and falsely blaming an innocent Youtube poster for that?

Trump: Here's my Red Line - I am going to destroy 52 sites in Iran if you retaliate. Iran: OK, here's a 22 cruise missile salvo in retaliation....

It is a war of words and mutual public posturing, which both Trump and the Ayatollha understand.... unlike the consumers of the "mainstream" propaganda media. Fact is, Trump has not started another shooting war (unlike Clinton/Obama) and has no intention of doing so.

Trump: "All is well"

Can we all say "Caveman"....

Can we say "good rethoric"? It allows both sides to save face and walk back. And can we say no to the neolib warmongers, who now clamour for a shooting war with Iran?

Now everyone from Kim to Xi knows Donnie is just a big __, you know, that thing he likes to grab....

No, they do not. And I don´t think they swallow the CNN propganda uncritically. Like some here.

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Sure, just like all the other things Trump and you said you believed in - then flipped on. Trump and Trumpers have dissed the RINOs and NEOCONs for four years - now they love them...

Some.

Just call them all war mongers....

If it wipes out as many terrorists as possible.

He's already tapped into his inner Cheney and Rumsfeld - that's why the intel justifying the Sulemanei strike was likely faked...

If you think so. Lol

No, they do not. And I don´t think they swallow the CNN propganda uncritically. Like some here.

Bingo!

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Yea, as in the same kind of orders Stormy and McDougal had to take out....

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, and neither do you, I suspect. Fact is "restraining order" is a completely polemical term here.

It's not "polemic" to those the Great Orange Pervert has stalked and assaulted...

Hillary kept her word and showed she had more guts than "Blinkee" Donnie ever had....

I what way? By illegally destroying Libya? By laughing at the rape and murder of the leader of a country? By letting her embassy staff get murdered, and falsely blaming an innocent Youtube poster for that?

Save the Hannity talking points for someone brain dead enough to believe them...

Trump: Here's my Red Line - I am going to destroy 52 sites in Iran if you retaliate. Iran: OK, here's a 22 cruise missile salvo in retaliation....

It is a war of words and mutual public posturing, which both Trump and the Ayatollha understand.... unlike the consumers of the "mainstream" propaganda media. Fact is, Trump has not started another shooting war (unlike Clinton/Obama) and has no intention of doing so.

The other Trumper here says Trump is a NEOCON and he is too - and proud of it....aren't you?

Trump: "All is well"

Can we all say "Caveman"....

Can we say "good rethoric"? It allows both sides to save face and walk back. And can we say no to the neolib warmongers, who now clamour for a shooting war with Iran?

You must be getting dizzy from all that spinning. Your boy folded, blinked, dodged, caved....

*Now everyone from Kim to Xi knows Donnie is just a big __, you know, that thing he likes to grab....*

No, they do not. And I don´t think they swallow the CNN propganda uncritically. Like some here

We know, you prefer the Kremlin's propaganda... The tyrants and dictators in the world all now know Blinkee is a pushover...

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Save the Hannity talking points for someone brain dead enough to believe them...

Liberals believe everything, they believe Pelosi has more power than McConnell and even controls the Senate. Wow!

We know, you prefer the Kremlin's propaganda...

Naw, you and the liberals believed that.

...

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Nancy should be arrested and imprisoned for treason.

Thanks for the great example of Trumper's disdain and disrespect for our Constitution and due process protections - but we already knew that from the "Lock Her Up" chants....

Trump/Pence 2020 - Make America Like Russia...

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Trump is too emotional and erratic and needs oversight. The problem is he runs the GOP like a dictatorship and the spineless Republicans keep ceding their power to him willingly.

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One Trumper here says Trump is a NEOCON and so is he - and he's proud of it...

Another Trumper here says Trump is an anti-NEOCON and that its the Dems that are war mongers...

Looks like we have a disagreement...wonder how the cult will resolve that?

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Put me in the “tired of your incessant droning on and on every single day five times per post in multiple posts about one buzzword” group. If there is not that group yet, I just made it.

no one started a war. So no neocon, no warmonger, missed your chance. “All is well”.

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