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Hungary’s nationalist leader warns of EU's demise and backs Trump in anti-Western speech

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“Europe has given up defending its own interests,” Orbán said in Baile Tusnad, a majority-ethnic Hungarian town in central Romania. “All Europe is doing today is following the U.S.’s pro-Democrat foreign policy unconditionally … even at the cost of self-destruction.”

The only thing that interests this loser is foreign policy? What exactly would be the long term implications of a grab your ankles foreign policy?

“A change is coming that has not been seen for 500 years. What we are facing is in fact a world order change," he added, citing China, India, Pakistan and Indonesia as becoming the “dominant center” of the world.

Notice Russia is not on that list, India is strictly neutral, and Pakistan is a basket case.

He didn't offer any evidence to back up the claim.

So as clear as the summer's sun.

international security guarantees “will be enshrined in an agreement between the US and Russia.”

Trump will give Putin anything he wants, but a real president needs nothing from Moscow.

intentions to build an “illiberal state” in Hungary

Why not go back to having kings and the questionable results that produces?

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Hungary’s nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said on Saturday that the European Union was sliding toward oblivion in a rambling anti-Western speech in which he warned of a new, Asia-oriented “world order” while throwing his support for Donald Trump’s U.S. presidential bid.

The demonization of migrants and racist dog whistles are similar and the vague nationalism.

I wonder if MEGA differs from MAGA in any significant way, for example implementing actual economic populism. Trump had this in his early rhetoric promising to take on Wall Street and Vance revived this theme recently but Trump always end up cozying up to big business and giving them everything they want.

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“All Europe is doing today is following the U.S.’s pro-Democrat foreign policy unconditionally … even at the cost of self-destruction.”

Trump and the growing populist movement in Europe comprised of farmers, workers and regular folk will hopefully kill the oppressive NATO and EU regimes.

People are waking up.

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Good man!!!!

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BanthuToday 07:12 am JST

“All Europe is doing today is following the U.S.’s pro-Democrat foreign policy unconditionally … even at the cost of self-destruction.”

Trump and the growing populist movement in Europe comprised of farmers, workers and regular folk will hopefully kill the oppressive NATO and EU regimes.

So much for eschewing political violence I guess. Fortunately the Putinists are in such a minority, they know they would lose even at that.

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Trump also said if he becomes president again he would not defend NATO countries that are not meeting the 2% defense target. That includes Hungary.

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Orban and Hungary only survive because of the EU/NATO.

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Kick Orban to the curb - invite Hungary back when they elect someone that shares our democratic values, not some Putin puppet and wanna-be...

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Global fascism on the rise under the guise of nationalism, and calling for a new world order. Where have we seen this before?

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Harris will remember come November,he do not have any say so,but running his mouth

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Trump also said if he becomes president again he would not defend NATO countries that are not meeting the 2% defense target. That includes Hungary.

Good

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bass4funkToday 08:28 am JST

Trump also said if he becomes president again he would not defend NATO countries that are not meeting the 2% defense target. That includes Hungary.

Good

Fortunately Congress retains the ability to declare war, and even among the MAGAs, there are those with a shred of decency remaining.

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Hungary’s nationalist leader warns of EU's demise and backs Trump in anti-Western speech

The only normal human in the room. Some of us just don't like world wars or nuclear fallout.

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Orban and Hungary only survive because of the EU/NATO.

Negative or as we say - load of bs.

' Kick Orban to the curb '

Typical, D.C. mobsters again calling for violence against political leaders who look after their country and people first instead of just being a Washington puppet.

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“Europe has given up defending its own interests,” Orbán said in Baile Tusnad, a majority-ethnic Hungarian town in central Romania. “All Europe is doing today is following the U.S.’s pro-Democrat foreign policy unconditionally … even at the cost of self-destruction.”

“A change is coming that has not been seen for 500 years. What we are facing is in fact a world order change," he added, citing China, India, Pakistan and Indonesia as becoming the “dominant center” of the world.

America is (just) 250 years old but, today, Europe is politically and culturally influenced by the US (—the US became the world’s number one superpower after the end of WWII). So, you don’t have to be an American to support Trump—a lot of people in Europe support Trump. Politically speaking, the threat of a new world order is real.

has made a Trumpian vow to “Make Europe Great Again” and has openly endorsed Trump’s candidacy in this year’s U.S. presidential election.

(I’m not a big fan of this Hungarian guy btw.)

MEGA sounds like a cheap copy of MAGA, but, like I said, Europe is deeply influenced by the US—we need a strong, united West AND a strong, united NATO.

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Fortunately Congress retains the ability to declare war, and even among the MAGAs, there are those with a shred of decency remaining.

And you just made my point for me why Trump won't commit if he doesn't have to. Thank you.

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Of course Orban believes in a China-oriented, dictatorship-led "New World Order". He has signed his country up to China's Belt and Road Scam - it's part of the plan. Why would he say otherwise?

Good man!!!!

I guess he is - if you also love totalitarian dictatorships like Communist China, as Orban does.

To be fair, many people are terrified of or hate freedom, so they naturally support dictatorships.

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May 10, 2024 — On Thursday, Xi said he and Orbán agreed the Belt and Road Initiative “is highly consistent with Hungary's strategy of opening to the east,”

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TaiwanIsNotChinaToday  06:52 am JST

“Europe has given up defending its own interests,” Orbán said in Baile Tusnad, a majority-ethnic Hungarian town in central Romania. “All Europe is doing today is following the U.S.’s pro-Democrat foreign policy unconditionally … even at the cost of self-destruction.”

The only thing that interests this loser is foreign policy? What exactly would be the long term implications of a grab your ankles foreign policy?

“A change is coming that has not been seen for 500 years. What we are facing is in fact a world order change," he added, citing China, India, Pakistan and Indonesia as becoming the “dominant center” of the world.

Notice Russia is not on that list, India is strictly neutral, and Pakistan is a basket case.

He didn't offer any evidence to back up the claim.

Kissy kissy up to Russia, just trump.

international security guarantees “will be enshrined in an agreement between the US and Russia.”

Trump will give Putin anything he wants, but a real president needs nothing from Moscow.

trump was PUT IN the WH by Putin so that makes him a sputnik right from the start.

intentions to build an “illiberal state” in Hungary

Why don't Hungary leave NATO if that bonehead is so damn unhappy?

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The only thing that interests this loser is foreign policy? What exactly would be the long term implications of a grab your ankles foreign policy?

Protecting and safeguarding their homeland, as it should be.

Kissy kissy up to Russia, just trump. 

This admin does that with Zelenskyy, so what is the problem?

*trump was PUT IN the WH by Putin so that makes him a sputnik right from the start. *

2 years of the Mueller investigation with 500 Dem lawyers and 500 witnesses say he's not a Sputnik.

Why don't Hungary leave NATO if that bonehead is so damn unhappy?

They have their reasons I am sure.

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rcchToday 11:27 am JST

MEGA sounds like a cheap copy of MAGA, but, like I said, Europe is deeply influenced by the US—we need a strong, united West AND a strong, united NATO.

And how are you going to get that with a US president on Putin's payroll?

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bass4funkToday 12:59 pm JST

The only thing that interests this loser is foreign policy? What exactly would be the long term implications of a grab your ankles foreign policy?

Protecting and safeguarding their homeland, as it should be.

A country as small as Hungary needs more powerful allies against Putin.

Kissy kissy up to Russia, just trump. 

This admin does that with Zelenskyy, so what is the problem?

Zelenskyy is not a threat to the US. I know you will feign surprise at this.

trump was PUT IN the WH by Putin so that makes him a sputnik right from the start. 

2 years of the Mueller investigation with 500 Dem lawyers and 500 witnesses say he's not a Sputnik.

The evidence was inconclusive. Fortunately what your ears tell you from the Helsinki summit is conclusive.

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bass4funkToday 11:29 am JST

Fortunately Congress retains the ability to declare war, and even among the MAGAs, there are those with a shred of decency remaining.

And you just made my point for me why Trump won't commit if he doesn't have to. Thank you.

But meanwhile the failure of Trump to not be a weak peace of stuffing makes everyone question US resolve. I guess if the MAGA goal is to make the US irrelevant, they are succeeding.

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A country as small as Hungary needs more powerful allies against Putin.

I don't think Orban has to worry about Vlad.

Zelenskyy is not a threat to the US.

He is to the American taxpayer and our pocketbooks, he is absolutely a threat.

I know you will feign surprise at this.*

I am really not surprised as to how low the liberals will go to.

The evidence was inconclusive.

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1197958571

Only a few more months of this crap and Trump is putting this to its final rest.

Fortunately what your ears tell you from the Helsinki summit is conclusive.

No, it's everywhere to read....fortunately....

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But meanwhile the failure of Trump to not be a weak peace of stuffing makes everyone question US resolve.

You mean the left. That's ok..

I guess if the MAGA goal is to make the US irrelevant, they are succeeding.

Good.

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bass4funkToday 01:12 pm JST

A country as small as Hungary needs more powerful allies against Putin.

I don't think Orban has to worry about Vlad.

You may not believe that Vlad will undermine the US, but Vlad believes he will undermine the US.

Zelenskyy is not a threat to the US.

He is to the American taxpayer and our pocketbooks, he is absolutely a threat.

That's not a real threat.

The evidence was inconclusive.

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1197958571

Only a few more months of this crap and Trump is putting this to its final rest.

No, a Dump victory means he owns European and Taiwanese security indefinitely. We will make sure to remind you of this if there are any setbacks.

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You may not believe that Vlad will undermine the US, but Vlad believes he will undermine the US.

He can believe anything he wants.

That's not a real threat.

For most taxpayers he is.

No, a Dump victory means he owns European and Taiwanese security indefinitely.

Doubt it

We will make sure to remind you of this if there are any setbacks

Be right here in my office waiting.

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