Hungary reopens for people holding COVID-19 immunity cards

But they don’t have immunity from covid. They have a greatly reduced risk of having covid, but they are not immune. This sort of nonsense lulls people into a false sense of security.

The country has the second-highest vaccination rate in the European Union and is the only one of the EU’s 27 nations to use vaccines from China and Russia in addition to Western jabs

The Russian and Chinese vaccines barely have any testing data, so can we really call them vaccines?

If you have people taking these vaccines, the Hungarian Immunity Card is useless, in fact other countries shouldn’t let in people carrying these cards.

Good news: look at all the things one can do if one only gets vaccinated to protect oneself and others. Bad news: it needs to be a tested vaccine.

The Russian and Chinese vaccines barely have any testing data, so can we really call them vaccines?

2-3 weeks after everyone attends that football game, we'll know how effective the vaccines there are.

Hungary is certainly encouraging people to get vaccinated. In the US, we can get free beer, free donuts, and a few other freebies for proving we are vaccinated.

I'm not against requiring either some proof of vaccination or some proof of inability to be vaccinated for entering public areas. In the US, people with health issues were a medical alert bracelet to let emergency workers know there are possible issues with normal treatments. Allergies, conditions and emergency contacts are typically engraved.

Stubborn people who could be vaccinated, but are selfish and won't, can spend time away from public places.

The problem in general is, that all ‘harvested’ reached progress is immediately ‘eaten’ again by overdoing in issuing eased restrictions.

The Russian and Chinese vaccines barely have any testing data, so can we really call them vaccines?

If they call AstraZeneca's a vaccine, why not Chinese or Russian?

If they call AstraZeneca's a vaccine, why not Chinese or Russian?

Raw test data availability and world-wide peer reviews? Just guessing.

Also, when AZ's vaccine batches have issues, the root cause is tracked down and corrected.

When Russia had bad batches of Sputnik V, they denied anything was wrong. https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/04/brazil-rejects-sputnik-v-vaccine-says-its-tainted-with-replicating-cold-virus/

Provide the raw data for the phase 3 trials and this all goes away. Put up or shut up - I believe that's the normal technical methodology.

I don't know anyone who doesn't wish that every vaccine is safe and effective - well, except the anti-vax people.