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Hunter Biden to plead guilty in deal that likely averts time behind bars in a tax and gun case

Cue the rightist hysteria that Hunter Biden is public enemy Number 1, a Dr. Evil level criminal mastermind whose crimes eclipse anything ever done on the right about taxes and guns.

The duopoly fan supporter mania is real.

1 ( +24 / -23 )

If he did the crime, he deserves the punishment. As do all who commit crimes.

I wonder if the right will stop claiming there's a two-tier system of justice for them and Democrats now. Lol

4 ( +26 / -22 )

I’m not going to defend this dumb guy. He’s caused a whole lot of trouble to an otherwise relatively clean administration.

But the laptop and “Biden Crime Family” stuff is just bonkers.

-14 ( +21 / -35 )

But the laptop and “Biden Crime Family” stuff is just bonkers.

But, but there's a FD -1023 that totally backs up this claim. /s

7 ( +18 / -11 )

After five years of investigation. The plea deal, two tax payments, and probation. Charges dropped over gun and addictions.

5 ( +16 / -11 )

Cards fan

If he did the crime, he deserves the punishment. As do all who commit crimes.

Most Dems or independents don't have any qualms about prosecuting Hunter Biden if he is guilty.

Most Trump fans will never accept that he should be charged for any crime.

10 ( +25 / -15 )

Guilty of 3 federal crimes (so far).

Totally sweet plea deal of no jail for 2 years in jail tax charges and 10 year federal gun charge.

a good start. Now let’s do the influence peddling and money laundering.

Joe is oddly “proud” of his son for all this.

-8 ( +19 / -27 )

Totally sweet plea deal of no jail for 2 years in jail tax charges and 10 year federal gun charge.

That's usually what happens when you accept responsibility for your actions.

Joe is oddly “proud” of his son for all this.

Yeah. Good parents live their kids even when they make stupid decisions. Good point, Black.

0 ( +15 / -15 )

I’m not going to defend this dumb guy. He’s caused a whole lot of trouble

Very true.

to an otherwise relatively clean administration. 

Not according to bank records and money flow

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-oversight-republican-report-biden-family-accusations/

But the laptop and “Biden Crime Family” stuff is just bonkers.

No, not based on the findings.

-15 ( +13 / -28 )

After five years of investigation. The plea deal, two tax payments, and probation. Charges dropped over gun and addictions.

Well, it’s not over yet.

-11 ( +13 / -24 )

Cue the rightist hysteria that Hunter Biden is public enemy Number 1

No, just an extremely privileged white guy whose daddy is president and allows him to sell US interests to foreign bidders. Narcotics and guns... If he were black or republican, it would be an automatic 5 years in prison. Great to be white and Democrat, eh?

-7 ( +18 / -25 )

No, not based on the findings.

Lol there are no findings.

4 ( +19 / -15 )

The amount of projection is just classic. Willfully didn’t pay taxes and illegally possessed a gun.

talk about something boomeranging on you.

illegal drug use? Human trafficking? Prostitution?

First of all, my son has done nothing wrong,” he said in an interview with MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle on Friday evening. “I trust him. I have faith in him.”

nothing wrong huh?

-7 ( +16 / -23 )

Started under the Trump Administration? It's sad to know that Trump ordered this sham investigation into the family of a political rival. We should defund the DOJ immediately, especially portions of the DOJ that are dealing with this case.

We should also remove all, not some, of the IRS enforcement agencies that could have played a part in uncovering this.

And a 5-year investigation into...a misdemeanor? Two tiers of justice in this country.

As bass like to say...pay the fine and move on. Yawn.

What's on TV?

All right-winging aside, he pled guilty so he's guilty in my eyes and should face justice. No one is above the law in the US. He's brought shame to his family name and needs to be held accountable. No conspiracy theories needed.

1 ( +15 / -14 )

Willfully didn’t pay taxes and illegally possessed a gun.

Oh know, he didn't pay taxes? I thought that made you smart.

9 ( +21 / -12 )

Drugs, taxes & guns. Is that it?! Big deal! There’s somebody like this in every family.

0 ( +11 / -11 )

This ends the five-year investigation.

Plead Guilty on Misdemeanor Tax Charges.

The investigation, which was led by Trump-appointed US attorney for Delaware David Weiss, looked into a range of Biden’s activities that included his role in foreign businesses – such as his seat on the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma, a frequent source of rightwing criticism. Investigators interviewed witnesses and looked through financial documents, with the probe looming in the background for years.

Ultimately the investigation narrowed down to two main issues: Biden’s failure to pay income taxes on time and a charge related to lying on a firearm application form. Prosecutors charged Biden on 20 June, while simultaneously announcing that he would enter a plea deal that will likely not result in jail time.

Trump was arraigned in a Florida courthouse after facing a 37-count indictment related to his handling of classified documents. Unlike Biden, who has never held public office and faced misdemeanor charges, the more serious felony counts against Trump could carry significant jail time and complicate his 2024 presidential election campaign.

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Commanteer,first of all you have no knowledge of the Justice system, prosecutor are insecure,their is no guarantee ,the government can win a case ,their was a chance Hunter would probably not be convicted in Delaware

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Trump supporters like not paying taxes. 2017 he paid $750. Farse.

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Lol there are no findings.

You absolutely have no idea what the House Republicans have.

This ends the five-year investigation

No, it doesn’t.

https://twitter.com/repjamescomer/status/1671222631951917057?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ

-14 ( +6 / -20 )

Hunter paid his taxes.

-1 ( +11 / -12 )

You MAGA guys are so amusing.

Comer releases Biden family probe update without showing link to president

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/10/james-comer-biden-probe-00096067

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As bass like to say...pay the fine and move on. Yawn.

That was the faux J6 debacle

Different

All right-winging aside, he pled guilty so he's guilty in my eyes and should face justice. No one is above the law in the US. He's brought shame to his family name and needs to be held accountable. No conspiracy theories needed.

None and that’s why the investigation continues, thank God for that.

-10 ( +7 / -17 )

You MAGA guys are so amusing.

I wish I could say the same about this administration, but alas…

Comer releases Biden family probe update without showing link to president

Not yet.

-11 ( +7 / -18 )

Nobody is above the law in the US, whether it is Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, or the Trumps. I hope this is something that all Americans can agree on.

9 ( +15 / -6 )

Umm he didn’t pay his taxes. “Willfully” didn’t.

He is to plead guilty to failing to pay more than $100,0000 in taxes on over $1.5 million in income in both 2017 and 2018,

so how did he make this money to begin with? And which corrupt country did it come from?

-9 ( +12 / -21 )

he sure didn’t “struggle”about sleeping with his dead brothers wife. And her sister.

Distasteful as one may find it, it's not a crime. It's not even a tort. Who cares?

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Commanteer,first of all you have no knowledge of the Justice system, prosecutor are insecure,their is no guarantee ,the government can win a case 

No. I just work with lawyers everyday. You clearly are lacking in knowledge though. The federal government convicts in 97% of the cases. A plea deal in a case like this would normally be 3 years.

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hunter Biden was investigated by Trump-appointed US attorney for Delaware David Weiss. This is all they could find. There is no more.

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You absolutely have no idea what the House Republicans have.

And you do?

I've heard the house press briefing about the FD-1023. What a joke.

7 ( +14 / -7 )

bass4funk

Lol there are no findings.

You absolutely have no idea what the House Republicans have.

Umm, yeah. We do. They have a FD-1023 that talks about an informant that nobody has talked to in 3 years, who says he has telephone recordings of Joe Biden, that nobody has heard, or even know if they are incriminating.

I.e., they have sweet FA.

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In what scenario can you “earn” 1.5 million dollars per year at the same time that you are such a non functional alcohol and drug user that you can’t be held responsible for lying on a signed document to illegally procure a gun?

only one. Your Daddy runs the “Justice” department.

-12 ( +8 / -20 )

Blacklabel

so how did he make this money to begin with? And which corrupt country did it come from?

Who cares. Making money isn't illegal.

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hunter Biden was investigated by Trump-appointed US attorney for Delaware David Weiss. This is all they could find. There is no more.

So you have the authority to stop the House Republican Oversight Committee? Wallace, you have that kind of power?

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Oh but it is illegal to make money in some cases depending on what you did to make it.

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bass4funk

hunter Biden was investigated by Trump-appointed US attorney for Delaware David Weiss. This is all they could find. There is no more.

So you have the authority to stop the House Republican Oversight Committee? Wallace, you have that kind of power?

They can fill their boots, I don't care. Judging by their current efforts, I don't expect anything surprising anytime soon.

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Lol there are no findings.

Make the House Republican stop and I’ll believe you.

> Umm, yeah. We do.

No, you don’t. Once you get appointed to House Oversight Committee, I’ll believe you.

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Blacklabel

Oh but it is illegal to make money in some cases depending on what you did to make it.

Sure. And if he earned the money illegally, charge him.

But he didn't.

So no charges.

7 ( +13 / -6 )

Oh but it is illegal to make money in some cases depending on what you did to make it.

And if he earned money illegally, he should be held to account, as should we all. Does anyone here disagree with that statement? Seems pretty straightforward to me.

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Haha. Hunter Biden is a total idiot. Biden should completely disown him. But to his credit at least he's had the decency to take a plea bargain. In any case, Guns, Drugs, Sex, Bribery, commonplace in American Politics, Left and Right.

Now all Trump has to do is to accept a plea bargain too when the federal charges do stick and it potentially goes to trial.

@Yrral. Honestly mate, if you think you could steal a trillion dollars I don't think you'd be trolling around Japan Today making dumb comments.

8 ( +12 / -4 )

No, you don’t. Once you get appointed to House Oversight Committee, I’ll believe you.

Are you om the house committee? How do you know what they have?

9 ( +14 / -5 )

This case wasn’t about how he earned the money or where it came from.

or where the money he used to pay the taxes finally came from and how he earned that money.

I didn’t know that taking crack to the point of not being expected to be accountable for filling out a form was so lucrative of a profession.

stay tuned! “Yet”

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Commanteer,Hunter has a good lawyer, Japanese justice system is rigged,maybe you should work for lawyers,that have good legal skills

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

Now all Trump has to do is to accept a plea bargain too when the federal charges do stick and it potentially goes to trial.

In theory they should.

-11 ( +6 / -17 )

Are you om the house committee? How do you know what they have?

I never said that I did, but I know they’re not stopping. Garland can’t stop them, so the probe continues.

-11 ( +6 / -17 )

.. In theory @Blacklabel. Excellent point. But for you, impossible as Trump hasnt done anything wrong ( at all), right?

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hunter Biden was investigated by Trump-appointed US attorney for Delaware David Weiss. This is all they could find. There is no more.

Tell Comer to stop, when he does you’ll get an apology from me.

They can fill their boots, I don't care.

Then don’t worry about it. You don’t care and the House Republicans don’t care what Garland says.

-9 ( +5 / -14 )

bass4funk

No, you don’t. Once you get appointed to House Oversight Committee, I’ll believe you.

I would manage my expectations of that committee, if I were you. The have come up with squat so far.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

this has only just begun. An appetizer before the main bribery/money laundering course with the child support case as dessert.

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I never said that I did, but I know they’re not stopping. 

Actually that's exactly what you said.

No, not based on the findings.

Well what findings? There are no findings. There never will be, because there never are. Just cheap innuendo for Republican operatives to use in the next election.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

bass4funk

Now all Trump has to do is to accept a plea bargain too when the federal charges do stick and it potentially goes to trial.

In theory they should.

The only plea bargain I could imagine for the Trump documents case would be to not run for office, given the severity of that case. Trump recklessly endangered US national security and assets abroad.

6 ( +11 / -5 )

The findings of the 5 year investigation that showed Hunter Biden committed criminal acts that, absent a favorable plea deal, should have put him in jail for years.

or do people just plead guilty anyway to things no one can prove that didn’t happen for no reason now?

-13 ( +4 / -17 )

bass4funk

They can fill their boots, I don't care.

Then don’t worry about it. You don’t care and the House Republicans don’t care what Garland says.

No, I don't. Because none of it will affect Joe Biden. At all.

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--But the laptop and “Biden Crime Family” stuff is just bonkers.

No, not based on the findings.

--Lol there are no findings.

You absolutely have no idea what the House Republicans have.

Sounds like you're not so sure about "the findings".

Comer and Gym don't have anything incriminating against Joe Biden, but it doesn't matter. It's all just a little game to keep the conspiratorial-minded MAGA base tuned in and outraged. They can stretch this out for years.

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The findings of the 5 year investigation that showed Hunter Biden committed criminal acts that, absent a favorable plea deal, should have put him in jail for years.

According to whom? How do you know this? Just a quick Google search suggests this out come isn't at all uncommon. What is uncommon though, is how much hate rightists have for the Biden family.

8 ( +13 / -5 )

Good job. So that would mean they are family. With Biden as the head of it.

yet Joe said his son did nothing wrong. Was that a….lie?

-14 ( +4 / -18 )

Good job. So that would mean they are family. With Biden as the head of it.

lol Parents aren't to blame for their kid's failings.

yet Joe said his son did nothing wrong. Was that a….lie?

Was that a...parent trying to protect their kid? Also, you're assuming Biden's mental state.

8 ( +13 / -5 )

Blacklabel

Good job. So that would mean they are family. With Biden as the head of it.

Ha ha. I wouldn't say being a father makes you the head of a family. What about Hunter's Mum? You could say that she is the head of the Biden family.

yet Joe said his son did nothing wrong. Was that a….lie?

Most parents would say the same of their children.

10 ( +13 / -3 )

Here are a couple of the top hits on Google when you look up tax avoidance probation:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tax+avoidance+probation&rlz=1C1TKQJ_jaJP1034JP1039&oq=tax+avoidance+probation&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgWGB4yCggCEAAYhgMYigUyCggDEAAYhgMYigUyCggEEAAYhgMYigUyCggFEAAYhgMYigUyCggGEAAYhgMYigXSAQg5NjA1ajFqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://bernal-law.com/practice/tax-evasion/#:~:text=Probation%3A%20Courts%20may%20sentence%20a,the%20probation%20terms%20and%20conditions.

Probation: Courts may sentence a person convicted for tax evasion to probation.Probation sentences usually last at least 1-3 years. The probation period may be extended if the defendant fails to comply with the probation terms and conditions.

Seems prettty average to me.

5 ( +10 / -5 )

So Joe loves his son so much and is so proud of him.

So much that if presented blackmail evidence of his son committing acts that demand jail time he would totally still not do whatever CCP or Ukraine or Russia or other bad actors demanded he do?

he definitely wouldn’t lie to the people that he doesn’t know anything, wasn’t involved and that his son did nothing wrong, right?

the son that slept with Joe’s dead sons wife was judged by Joe as “hasn’t done anything wrong” and “smartest guy I know”. Questionable judgment there from Joe I would say.

-18 ( +2 / -20 )

I would manage my expectations of that committee, if I were you.

Thankfully, you’re not me and thankfully, you’re not on the oversight committee

The have come up with squat so far.

Like with Trump, but that didn’t deter House Democrats, so….

-15 ( +5 / -20 )

yet Joe said his son did nothing wrong. Was that a….lie?

It's an opinion.

Really reaching today.

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But he knew Hunter illegally possessed a gun and didn’t pay his taxes. We all knew.

so that would be a lie, not an “opinion”.

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

pled guilty for crimes he committed and accepts responsibility even though they were committed under the curse of drug addiction. As he should.

Quite refreshing compared to to Trump crime family.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

Trump people! This case is over since Hunter will make a deal for plea. Now, it's time to back to supporting Trump. Trump is charged with felonies. NO! He is charged with MANY felonies and he needs money and lawyers from his followers. Remember, helping Trump is not about helping the USA. It's about helping Trump.

the son that slept with Joe’s dead sons wife

So? These things happen all the time and the courts don't really care.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

bass4funk

The have come up with squat so far.

Like with Trump, but that didn’t deter House Democrats, so….

Not so. Unlike Joe Biden, Trump has been charged with a crime.

7 ( +9 / -2 )

@Blacklabel: 'Clutching' 'Straws'. Now be a good chap and fill in the missing word to describe yourself.

8 ( +11 / -3 )

llSounds like you're not so sure about "the findings".

I don’t know I’m not in Congress.

Comer and Gym don't have anything incriminating against Joe Biden,

Not yet…

but it doesn't matter. It's all just a little game to keep the conspiratorial-minded MAGA base tuned in and outraged.

Well, Biden helping in making that possible, so on that alone more people are seeing this for what it is, a political witch hunt

They can stretch this out for years

The Dems did. for 7 years.

-15 ( +3 / -18 )

It's an opinion.

You know this because?

-9 ( +3 / -12 )

Are you om the house committee? How do you know what they have?

and how do you know anything about the mind and intent of anyone besides reading an article from a country across the Pacific?

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

EFD,name the average crackhead, that get paid million of dollars to influence the US government

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EFD,name the average crackhead, that get paid million of dollars to influence the US government

Donald Jr.

And he’s not even bothering to get clean.

And you have as much proof that Hunter was paid to, or was even able to influence government as you have syntax and punctuation.

Which is to say zero.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

Hunter is guilty. Hunter admitted guilt. Hunter has been found guilty. Hunter pled guilty. Hunter had a plea deal of lesser charges. Hunter probably got off easy. I really don't care what happens to Hunter.

If trump wants me to make the same list for him I'd he happy to do that. He's tried fighting this for the longest time and he's losing. If he doesn't admit guilt and try to make a plea deal then he deserves everyone he gets!

All Trump has to do is plead guilty to the charges before him and cut his own deal based on what is typical in the unlawful possession of highly classified documents even after being asked repeatedly to return them and also conspiracy to conceal said documents.

6 ( +11 / -5 )

The have come up with squat so far.

Not yet

.

Not so. Unlike Joe Biden, Trump has been charged with a crime.

Well, it’s been 7 years, the GOP has time.

-14 ( +3 / -17 )

Yet the left here told me orange pumpkin guy was going to prison for……willfully not paying taxes. 

Shoe- meet other foot.

And what did you say about that? Can you recall?

Most people have two feet and use both of them. Give it a whirl.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Yeah even worse

lol No. Legally, that's better. There is a reason suspects who plead guilty get lighter sentences.

8 ( +11 / -3 )

Guilty of 3 federal crimes (so far).

Totally sweet plea deal of no jail for 2 years in jail tax charges and 10 year federal gun charge.

a good start. Now let’s do the influence peddling and money laundering.

Joe is oddly “proud” of his son for all this.

It is called "taking responsibility" by admitting guilt!

You should tell the tax-dodging, liar, assaulter of women, and former president to do the same!

10 ( +13 / -3 )

bass4funk

Not so. Unlike Joe Biden, Trump has been charged with a crime.

Well, it’s been 7 years, the GOP has time.

Joe's been around a lot longer than 7 years...

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Thier no.defense for Hunter Biden,but being selfish

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

Yes how dare someone who didn’t do something go to court! Or proclaim their innocence. Should punish those people even more! /s

everyone should just shamelessly plead guilty and let daddy clean it up! Oh your daddy isn’t in charge of the DOJ like hunters is??Too bad for ya then I guess.

-14 ( +2 / -16 )

Readers, some of you have become obsessed with this story. If you have already made multiple posts, please take a break for about two hours.

Well, payment of taxes and illegal guns are now off the Democrats moral outrage possibility list.

-15 ( +3 / -18 )

Innocent until proven guilty. Democrat until convicted with a crime.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

The justice system in the USA is designed to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.

To see these pretty major crimes that were committed by a wife beating addict stinks of political favoritism from "the big guy".

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

This guy has openly broken so many laws it is hard to believe he is not in jail.

The apple fell close to the tree.

-10 ( +4 / -14 )

Hunter is no longer hunted.

and still can't....

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Hunter Biden made a plea deal of guilty. It happens all the time. He's guilty. If it warrants prison time, he deserves to go. As the President's son, perhaps Joe pulls strings, he's a politician. I don't love Joe Biden, but he's no Trump disaster. Bottom line is Hunter Biden gets no favors is the best thing to happen.

The predictability of the posters, the anti Biden/pro Trump one's, is pathetic.

What is allowed and not at JT is quite arbitrary, as lies and support for lies goes on and on, with a force of the pro Trump more constantly over posted than the truth seekers. I don't get why the media enables such to keep repeating the Trump echo chamber of lies, not only here, but everywhere.

Even Fox News, the ex-Trump network, has seen the light to hit harder on Trump, with the very conservative Bret Baier interview and Brit Hume's follow up cornering and decisively stating of Trump's lack of coherence and mixing up his golf shirts with classified documents shows a rather unhinged and guilty individual.

The buckets of narrative and lies continues on with Trump repeating his lies and narrative about winning the 2020 election and attacking the justice system, which isn't a Biden thing, nor a leftist thing, at all.

The enabling of falsehoods by the media is like allowing children to lie. The media is very complicit in enabling the troubling Trump and his herd to keep lying. Just like the CNN town hall, whom, by firing the CEO, admitted it was a mistake to allow Trump his air time. So, the posters who keep this charade here should be monitored to not post lies ubiquitously, imo.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

President Joe Biden’s son Hunter will plead guilty to federal tax offenses but avoid a full prosecution on a separate gun charge in a deal with the Justice Department that likely spares him time behind bars.

The left should be furious that someone breaking a firearms law isn't going to jail.

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Hunter was smart enough to take a plea deal...one wonders if Trump is that smart (he likely isn't) given he confessed to obstruction of justice in his Fox interview this weekend....

*Before that, however, Baier pressed Trump to explain why he kept the boxes of classified materials at Mar-a-Lago and refused to comply with government requests to return them, as described in his new felony indictment. In between dismissing the case as “the document hoax” or accusing other presidents of illegally hoarding their own sensitive documents, *Trump offered the bizarre explanation that he couldn’t give up the boxes to authorities because they also contained… his clothes.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-confesses-mishandling-classified-docs-233916792.html

You know, that air-tight legal excuse that you failed to comply with a court-ordered subpoena, directed your aide to hide the boxes, then had your lawyer lie in writing about it because you were too busy to sort your golf shirts from your Top Secret...

Barr nailed it - Trump is toast...burnt crisp by his own words....

5 ( +8 / -3 )

It would be intriguing to know the extreme left's thinking as to why they insisted Trump would be going to prison for a tax matter, but they don't insist that Hunter should be imprisoned for these charges.

Which includes that sacred firearms violation.

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

Trump needs to follow Hunter's example instead of playing the victim.

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of Course, “see we have justice”. Biden’s son. Guilty look look here. Don’t look over there that’s nothing. No matter what kind of blinders you have on, if you can’t see the weighted level of justice that favors the left and see the faults on both sides, then this country is doomed. They want the division to continue because you won’t search out the truth as you’re busy with being tribal.

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

Trump needs to follow Hunter's example instead of playing the victim.

Wallace,

That would HAVE been a good idea. But I think that ship has sailed (and subsequently sunk).

The DOJ now knows the breadth and depth of Stupid Voldemort's criminality. They have the evidence, they have the tapes. They have the testimony including from the main idiot himself.

They don't need to give a deal. Trump is toast - it the toast had been left in a nuclear reactor that was run without cooling water in it.

The DOJ is coming for Don and they want justice.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Wait… America actually uses its gun regulation laws? Now I know this is a bs story

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Yes how dare someone who didn’t do something go to court!

That's literally how it works. A guilty plea means you're owning the wrong you've done, and so the courts give you a lighter sentence.

Or proclaim their innocence. Should punish those people even more! /s

Yes. When you "claim" your innocence and the state proves it's case against you, that's precisely what happens.

everyone should just shamelessly plead guilty and let daddy clean it up! Oh your daddy isn’t in charge of the DOJ like hunters is??Too bad for ya then I guess.

You have 0 proof that Hunter Biden got special treatment because of who his father is. Lots of people get probation for tax offenses.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

John Durham speaks tomorrow so gotta deflect attention. such a slap on the wrist this conviction wreaks of dirty corrupted politics. Groom your kids or prepare them for the world. Which one does Hunter fall under. It seems that Hunter was helped to prepare for the world by watching the big guy. Question how many times has Joe said on live TV, “ I’d better not say that or I’ll get in trouble” obviously he’s not in control and DOJ has been corrupted. This double standard of justice is crazy. Little Wayne, Wesley Snipes, Martha Stewart all went to prison for the same charges. So don’t try to counter the argument. It’s plainly not a level playing field.

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

David Weiss, the DOJ prosecutor appointed by Trump, kept on by Biden who arranged the deal said in a letter that is available publicly that neither the DOJ higher ups, nor Joe Biden played any role in his decision to accept Hunter's offer to plea.

So much to the "Daddy saved him" talking points.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Bass: Tell Comer to stop

Why would he? He generates headlines and goes on TV just because of the fact he has an open investigation. Seems to be working on you, right? And you can't even point to anything besides a form that Barr at Trump's DOJ knew about and decided it wasn't even worth investigating.

At the end of the day, all you're saying is, "There must be something there or else there wouldn't be an investigation" as your evidence. Which, again, means their tactics are working on you just by opening an investigation.

I know you're excited about the fantasy of something being found but for now that's all you have. A fantasy. If that changes, then great. It changes. If not, I suppose you got some mental masturbation out of it and that's that.

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Was a fair deal. The secret, my Trump supporting friends, is doing what the government tells you to do.

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John Durham speaks tomorrow so gotta deflect attention.

Is this the same John Durham who in 4 years and 4 cases had one dismissed before trial, one result in a misdemeanor plea resulting in no jail time and TWO acquittals? Not even hung juries. All 24 jurors said "He didn't do it."

Is this the same John Durham who submitted a report admitting that he couldn't prove Jack?

Cause that John Durham might just have some questions of his own to answer tomorrow.

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Cause that John Durham might just have some questions of his own to answer tomorrow.

I can admit yes he some answering to do and didn’t really go after the people calling the shots. but most here can never admit that their side might be wrong. Like the die hard Trump fans that won’t see/admit that he took big money from pharmaceuticals and then changed his mind on appointments to NIH and CDC (or FDA forget which one)

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Is this the same John Durham who in 4 years and 4 cases had one dismissed before trial, one result in a misdemeanor plea resulting in no jail time and TWO acquittals? Not even hung juries. All 24 jurors said "He didn't do it."

Is this the same John Durham who submitted a report admitting that he couldn't prove Jack?

Well, it’s a wash then, Durham can’t prove anything and neither could Mueller.

Cause that John Durham might just have some questions of his own to answer tomorrow.

I am sure he is looking for it, get ready for the Dems to filibuster and run the clock. Should be interesting.

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Why would he? He generates headlines and goes on TV just because of the fact he has an open investigation.

As Mueller did, your point?

Seems to be working on you, right?

No, I got money, but for the people that don’t and they get caught up in this twisted two-tier Justice system is indeed scary

And you can't even point to anything besides a form that Barr at Trump's DOJ knew about and decided it wasn't even worth investigating.

No, wrong, but I don’t have all the evidence Comer and the Republicans have, I don’t need to, they’re focused so that’s ending and that’s a good thing.

At the end of the day, all you're saying is, "There must be something there or else there wouldn't be an investigation" as your evidence. Which, again, means their tactics are working on you just by opening an investigation.

No different than what your side has been saying about Trump, try and reciprocate the feeling.

I know you're excited about the fantasy of something being found but for now that's all you have.

Same as your side on Trump, a bunch of expired misdemeanors spliced and pushed to look like felonies? Inventive, I’ll give your side that.

A fantasy. If that changes, then great. It changes. If not, I suppose you got some mental masturbation out of it and that's that.

No more than your side, so let’s see who can get a bigger score from this.

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(Raises fist in solidarity)

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NEVER in my entire career as a fed public defender was I granted pre trial diversion for a fed felony gun charge related to narcotics- NEVER. I represented hundreds of minorities on this exact same charge, and the average sentence was 3-5 years in federal prison. Enter the white son of a white president prosecuted by a white AG and their two tier system of justice. im not saying its about race, but where's the outcry from the left n all the minorities who got launched by DOJS prison sentences

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american politics is Straight up gangster !!

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Well, it’s a wash then, Durham can’t prove anything and neither could Mueller.

Yeah, not so much. Mueller could not prosecute Trump under the DOJ OLC advise which I wish would be re-examined.

So it is not the same thing.

What he did do was lay out compelling evidence for no less than 6 open and shut cases of obstruction of justice (gee, that is becoming a patter with stupid voldemort) for prosecutors to follow after he left office.

But Don, in his "hold my beer" moment made Obstruction as POTUS small chips by attempting a coup and then stealing, disseminating and obstructing the recovery of highly classified documents that were not declassified and were not his.

Also, unlike Durham who got ZERO convictions, Mueller got multiple convictions and felony plea deals too numerous to mention.

But other than that they are TOTALLY the same, lol.

So not quite a wash....

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bass: No, wrong, but I don’t have all the evidence Comer and the Republicans have

Put another way, you haven't seen any evidence of anything. Put yet another way, as of right now, the GOP hasn't shown any evidence of anything. You can talk around that, which you will, but you can't refute those two points directly.

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But, but there's a FD -1023 that totally backs up this claim. /s

that same form written by an FBI agent the GOP cant find for 3 yrs, LOL

GOP just came out and stated they have no evidence against Biden

Make the House Republican stop and I’ll believe you.

dont need to just see what theyve said

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXhP-MWgg30&t=52s

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NEVER in my entire career as a fed public defender was I granted pre trial diversion for a fed felony gun charge related to narcotics- NEVER.

Perhaps (conveniently) forgets to add that it never handled federal charges as a local public defender, never had a drug use only (not trafficking) charge, or never handled Federal charges in any capacity?

Perhaps a combination of the above?

Because it happens all the time.

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outcry from the left n all the minorities who got launched by DOJS prison sentences

Mr.Federal Public defender must not be very informed about all the outcry from the left about the very discriminatory DOJ.

https://medium.com/thrice-removed/chris-hedges-on-revolution-media-prison-corruption-and-hope-5e538a97d2f9

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Well, his dad is in charge of the DOJ. No one else would get basically no punishment for the egregious crimes he committed. But, what else do you expect?

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No, wrong, but I don’t have all the evidence Comer and the Republicans have

Well, Comer has the missing testimony of a missing witness who may be dead for several years (no doubt murdered by the ruthless and extraordinarily foresighted Biden Crime Family headed by Sleepy Joe who cannot to your assertion put two words together)

So what Comer has is a double-thick slice of bunk, with a side of crap.

And you, by your own admission, don't even have that much.

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Well, his dad is in charge of the DOJ. No one else would get basically no punishment for the egregious crimes he committed. But, what else do you expect?

Wrong! I quick Google search will show that plenty of people get probation for tax avoidance crimes.

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Put another way, you haven't seen any evidence of anything.

Neither your side of Trump, you guys won’t allow any of it to be viewed by the Republicans or the public.

Put yet another way, as of right now, the GOP hasn't shown any evidence of anything.

Well, thankfully it’s ongoing, so no worries

You can talk around that,

Ditto

which you will, but you can't refute those two points directly.

Ditto.

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eric_japan

NEVER in my entire career as a fed public defender was I granted pre trial diversion for a fed felony gun charge related to narcotics- NEVER. I represented hundreds of minorities on this exact same charge, and the average sentence was 3-5 years in federal prison.

Enter the white son of a white president prosecuted by a white AG and their two tier system of justice. im not saying its about race, but where's the outcry from the left n all the minorities who got launched by DOJS prison sentences

Except this has nothing to do with the AG or Joe Biden. The plea deal was arranged by a Trump-appointed Republican prosecutor.

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bass: Neither your side of Trump

I predicted that you wouldn't touch my points with a 10 foot pole and you immediately prove that in your next post. Game, set, match.

Your response is an invitation to have a completely different conversation on another topic, and I decline. Not interested. Just wanted to make a point and I've done that. You can spend the rest of the night talking about transvestite birds for all I care. Doesn't involve me.

Have a good one.

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Diversion programs are mostly for teens, not 53 year old men.

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So I just heard a tape where Biden was telling the Ukrainian oligarch not to worry, that the FBI wouldn’t investigate his payments to Hunter that the oligarch meant to be passed to Joe.

how would Joe he so sure there would not be an investigation?

wall? Meet closing in.

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eric_japan

NEVER in my entire career as a fed public defender was I granted pre trial diversion for a fed felony gun charge related to narcotics- NEVER. I represented hundreds of minorities on this exact same charge, and the average sentence was 3-5 years in federal prison. Enter the white son of a white president prosecuted by a white AG and their two tier system of justice. im not saying its about race, but where's the outcry from the left n all the minorities who got launched by DOJS prison sentences

You are a Federal Public Defender but posting on JT?

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Nationwide, blacks comprise 62 percent of drug offenders admitted to state prison. In seven states, blacks constitute between 80 and 90 percent of all people sent to prison on drug charges.

Nationwide, black men are sent to state prison on drug charges at 13 times the rate of white men

Two out of five blacks sent to prison are convicted of drug offenses, compared to one in four whites. 

great to be white. I will avoid suntanning.

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MAGA supporters are sure MEGA is upset.

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So I just heard a tape where Biden was telling the Ukrainian oligarch not to worry, that the FBI wouldn’t investigate his payments to Hunter that the oligarch meant to be passed to Joe.

how would Joe he so sure there would not be an investigation?

wall? Meet closing in.

Apart from being off-topic. I would also advise that voices in one's head don't count.

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eric_japan

Martha Stewart all went to prison for the same charges. So don’t try to counter the argument. It’s plainly not a level playing field.

Martha Stewart went to prison for insider dealing. Lying about a stock sale, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice. No connection with Hunter Biden.

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I predicted that you wouldn't touch my points with a 10 foot pole and you immediately prove that in your next post. Game, set, match.

Well, you were definitely wrong about that one.

Your response is an invitation to have a completely different conversation on another topic, and I decline.

It’s not about acceptance or decline, it’s about a stalemate for both sides theoretically.

Not interested. Just wanted to make a point and I've done that.

Ditto

>

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MAGA supporters are sure MEGA is upset.

Hmm…failed humor attempt. Not about being mad, it’s about the Justice system being two-tier, but what is really interesting is that once it changes back to Republican Presidency, watch Democrats get on their high horse and scream, bloody murder on the table to try and against them, that’s going to be the interesting thing to watch.

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Martha Stewart all went to prison for the same charges. So don’t try to counter the argument. It’s plainly not a level playing field.

What got dear Martha in REAL trouble with the feds was lying to them and covering up her insider trading.

Hunter didn't do anything like that. But I have an idea of someone who has lied and obstructed....

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It’s more value to the story that Hunter was preferentially treated. That’s wrong and people react negatively to that.

The goal isn’t Hunter in jail, it’s Daddy out of the White House.

plus Hunter has several other crimes with cases yet to be finalized.

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Trump Jr used cocaine, according to his ex Aubrey O'Day

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bass4funk

Hunter Biden was investigated by Trump-appointed US attorney for Delaware David Weiss.

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So I just heard a tape where Biden was telling the Ukrainian oligarch not to worry, that the FBI wouldn’t investigate his payments to Hunter that the oligarch meant to be passed to Joe.

Lol no you didn't.

It’s more value to the story that Hunter was preferentially treated. That’s wrong and people react negatively to that.

Lol prove it. You can't, because it's not true. You're just mad because he's not going to jail because you hate the Biden's.

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Our MAGA-friends sure are in a meltdown...aptly so...

First their Ultra MAGA Kung get served with a detailed, evidence-filled indictment that has even his former protectors and cabinet members say is "damning"....

Then their "Knight on a White Horse" John Durham fizzles with his investigation getting one low-level misdemeanor conviction and two acquittals..

And today their favorite "Butwhatabout" obsession, Hunter, cops to a plea deal and closes out his case....

No wonder they're ranting about Hillary, who has been quietly enjoying life in upstate NY for seven years...

And it only gets worse as Trump goes from TV show to TV show openly confessing to his crimes...

Just like Trump has said about Florida, MAGA-world is filled with "misery and despair"...

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eric_japan

   NEVER in my entire career as a fed public defender was I granted pre trial diversion for a fed felony gun charge related to narcotics- NEVER.

I would have thought a Fed Public Defender was always 100% on the side of the defense.

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and closes out his case....

He’s got more- don’t worry.

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He’s got more- don’t worry.

lol Nope.

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bass4funk

never seen you so upset since Trump lost his election by a historical margin or at the time of Jan 6.

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US attorney for Delaware David Weiss has no more that would be beyond a reasonable doubt. Zilch. Case over.

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