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In Moscow, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Russia will ensure security of the IAEA mission and called on other countries to “raise pressure on the Ukrainian side to force it to stop threatening the European continent by shelling the territory of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and surrounding areas.”

Will this be possible.

Ukraine waitted to give permission and on the day of the start of the mission, Ukraine announces the start of the long delayed "counter offensive".

So just as the inspection gets approved by Ukraine, just a few days before the agreed start, Ukraine launches it major offensive.

This may be the shortest inspection in history, meaning it may be over before it starts.

I don't believe in coincidences.

I mean:

"No no no we (Ukraine) will not let you inspect, wait wait wait wait, Ok now we let you inspect, ooops we forgot we are launching a major offensive at the same time, good luck "

Really?

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Antique,you ever heard the old a saying a leopard,do not change it spots ,the same can be said for the regime in Kiev, Zelensky has started arresting opponents who is a threat too the Zelensky regime,narrative Google Krivonos Ukraine Zelensky

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Good to see that the Ukrainians are now going to allow the inspectors to visit. They were the ones blocking it.

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Mr Kipling

Today 08:02 am JST

Good to see that the Ukrainians are now going to allow the inspectors to visit. They were the ones blocking it

I will believe it when I see it.

Monday Ukraine time, Ukraine launched its long awaited counter offensive.

So the probability of Russia being able to insure the safety of the inspectors has just become more difficult.

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Grossi has sought access for months to the Zaporizhzhia plant

Still the question remains who refused the inspection?

I strongly assume it's those who are also responsible for murdering civilians and POWs.

Those responsible for looting, raping, and deporting Ukrainian citizens.

Those who are responsible for destroying civilian infrastructure.

Those who are trying to erase everything connected with the name UKRAINE.

Those who are responsible for their failed 3-day-special operation.

Those who are retreating and trying to reach safe areas.

Now you only have to give "those" a name, which clearly is RUSSIANS!

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It is worth noting (except if you're the editor of an American friendly 'independent' media outlet) that for the months when the Russian force tasked with protecting the nuclear power plant represented a presence deep inside Zelensky's territory, and any shelling by them would have been of great military significance and a blow to the morale of Zelensky's subjects, there wasn't any shelling. But when Zelensky was forced to retreat from the area around the plant, we're supposed to believe that Russia suddenly started shelling the nuclear site.

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ok1517

Today 08:31 am JST

Grossi has sought access for months to the Zaporizhzhia plant

> Still the question remains who refused the inspection?

That has never been a question without an answer.

It has been a very publicly known fact,

Ukraine had been refusing from day one.

Russia had given it's ok months ago.

Ukraine refused said only if the plant was first returned to Ukraine.

This is a fact.

Situations changed and Ukraine now says Ok.

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Ukraine had been refusing from day one.

Russia had given it's ok months ago.

Not entirely true. Both countries had conditions they wanted met. Putin only very recently gave up his demand that inspectors must travel to the plant through Russia.

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Again...for everyone who is discussing this topic here:

If Russia would not have started this mass murdering war, the world would not be in this situation now.

If Russia would not have invaded a country, started to kill innocent people including women and children, and even raping young Girls...the world would not be in this situation now.

That the world is now on the edge of a nuclear catastrophe is because Russia started this war.

All the blame for this situation is at Russia.

Russia started this war and Russia brought the world at the edge of another nuclear catastrophe.

If Russia wants to prevent this nuclear catastrophe, then leave Ukraine and stop this war you started.

Simple and easy.

But giving the blame to Ukraine that they shoot at the nuclear plant is Baby-crying, because if Russia would not have started this war, their would be no reason for the Ukraine to shoot at anything.

If Russia would not have started this war, the wold could continue to live in peace and should not worry now about a nuclear disaster.

Russia damages the peaceful lives of millions of people around the globe. Especially in Europe!

And we all know that a nuclear disaster will not stop at a countries border.

So again...that the world is in this situation now, is because of Russia.

Russia started all this...and the world will never forget that.

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Both the Russians and Ukrainians set their conditions at the beginning which prevented the visit. A Russian condition is that no American or UK inspectors. Initially, the Russians demanded the inspection team enter from Russia.

First time for the IAEA to enter an NPP located in a war zone and occupied by about 500 Russian troops and armory and munitions are being stored there.

It will be an inspection by gunpoint.

The UN, IAEA, and 42 other countries have demanded the Russian troops leave the NPP. Establish a demilitarized zone around the plant.

Two of the three external powerlines have been lost with the NPP relying on a single power supply. If that were to fail the NPP would have to use emergency backups to ensure the safety of the plant.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc15003.doc.htm

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Antiquesaving,

Ukraine refused said only if the plant was first returned to Ukraine.

And rightfully Ukraine demanded this. It's not Russia's plant! They occupied it besides "a couple of" other areas.

This "inspection" will not do any good, anyways. Looking at the installation with Russian troops standing around, pointing their guns at the heads of those who still keep the plant running, preventing any conversation, what can one expect.

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 Zelensky has started arresting opponents 

Really, Yrral? Arresting? How quaint! Putin simply has opponents shot (or poisoned or "disappeared").

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I guess its better to start from Minsk agreements 

The Minsk agreements were already broken by the Russians 3 days after the signature.

The Russians broke the Minsk agreements already after 3 days.

Russian Pro Separatists and the Russian army attacked Debalzewe already 3 days later.

So again...everything was started by Russia.

And...nothing, absolutely nothing, can excuse to invade a country and mass murdering innocent people, incl. women and children. And additional, raping young Girls!

And additional, pushing the world at the edge of a third world war and now pushing the world at the edge of a nuclear catastrophe.

There is absolutely no excuse for that.

But that counts for every country, not only for Russia.

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All NPP are built to withstand any attacks, shelling or bombing. That one here in discussion has been built 1985 , so please, switch your brains on, that was in Iron curtain and Cold War times, so this NPP is probably not only the biggest there, but also the most safest and secure one. My guess is, all that media hype is at a minimum of two thirds only a very cheap propaganda instrument, but doesn’t stem out of having real fear about that NPP or some radiation, based on proven real facts or developments.

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@Monty

The Russians broke the Minsk agreements already after 3 days. Russian Pro Separatists and the Russian army attacked Debalzewe already 3 days later

It seems you completely lack the knowledge of even basic facts. a) Russia was not a part of the Minsk agreements, the agreements were between the Ukroregime and the Donbass rebels. Russia along with France and Germany just helped to conclude the agreements ("The Normandy Format").

b) First Minsk agreement (signed in Sep.2014) was broken in Jan.2015 by the Ukroarmy when in started its winter offensive.

c) Second Minsk agreements was signed in Feb.2015, after the battle of Debaltsevo. What "3 days", what are you talking about? Learn facts before writing.

mass murdering innocent people, incl. women and children. And additional, raping young Girls!

The author of these stories, the official of the Ukroregime called Denisova, was fired for these lies. Even the regime considered these stories too stupid and unbeliavable.

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So grim and ugly, and the Putin cheerleading section cheers for this violent assault on a peaceful neighbor. “Russia feels threatened by Ukraine and must defend herself!”, they say. Actually, Russia uses this false excuse of paranoia to justify its violent aggression against whoever they wish to attack.

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ok1517.....

Still the question remains who refused the inspection?

That's been answered a long time ago. If you follow any media at all, even Ukraine media, it has been the Ukrainians not granting permission for the visit. They probably didn't want the Russians having the PR stunt of guiding the inspectors around the Ukraine's biggest electricity generating facility while proudly announcing that the lights are on in Kiev thanks to them. From a Ukraine propaganda point of view, blocking the visit makes sense as at least half the posters on JT believe the Ukrainians control the site and Russians are shelling it..

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Ukraine accused Russia of new rocket and artillery strikes at or near the plant

..

 to safeguard the Russian-occupied Zaporizhzhia atomic power plant

..

?

If you are not control power plant - the only thing you can do you can shell it.

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@stormcrow

So grim and ugly, and the Putin cheerleading section cheers for this violent assault on a peaceful neighbor

So grim and ugly when the regime cheerleading section turn its blind eye to the unbeliavable sufferings of the people of Donbass who were killed, tortured and raped for eight years. If you beat your wife daily don't be surprised when the cops arrive.

Russia uses this false excuse of paranoia to justify its violent aggression against whoever they wish to attack

Any examples? Oh yes, aggressions against Afghanistan and Iraq. Wait, it was somebody else paranoid!

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So grim and ugly when the regime cheerleading section turn its blind eye to the unbeliavable sufferings of the people of Donbass who were killed, tortured and raped for eight years.

Lol, turn your neighbour into a war zone and then complain when people start dying.

“Look at the people dying in that country that we invaded’”

You wonder how some people can be so vicious, until you check who wrote it.

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By the way - Ukraine shelling nuclear plant, using

First - howitzer M777

Second - M142 HIMARS

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Olegek

By the way - Ukraine shelling nuclear plant, using

> First - howitzer M777

> Second - M142 HIMARS

You can provide evidence of that.

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Even if it's true, Russia shouldn't have cited Donbass as the reason.

If they said they were looking for weapons of mass destruction it would have been acceptable to everyone

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b) First Minsk agreement (signed in Sep.2014) was broken in Jan.2015 by the Ukroarmy when in started its winter offensive.

c) Second Minsk agreements was signed in Feb.2015, after the battle of Debaltsevo. What "3 days", what are you talking about? Learn facts before writing.

And before that the 1994 Ukraine agreement gave up its atomic weapons

On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Britain, and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state. The four parties signed the memorandum, containing a preamble and six paragraphs. 

And the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine Crimea.

On 19 February 1954, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union issued a decree transferring the Crimean Oblast from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian SSR.

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They probably didn't want the Russians having the PR stunt of guiding the inspectors around the Ukraine's biggest electricity generating facility while proudly announcing

By the way, this "biggest electricity generating facility" was built by Russians in Soviet times.

Are you really think that Ukrainians are able to do such things?

In 30 years of "independence" they have build zero nuclear plants.

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wallace

First - howitzer M777*

Second - M142 HIMARS*

You can provide evidence of that.

Distance and accuracy

And such distance Ukrainian Army has only two options: M777 and HIMARS

old Soviet artillery is not so good

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@ClippetyClop

Lol, turn your neighbour into a war zone and then complain when people start dying

Lol?? "You wonder how some people can be so vicious, until you check who wrote it".

Donbass was a war zone since 2014. I do not recall any concern about that from the people who cheerleading the regime now.

@wallace

You can provide evidence of that

HIMARS and M777 projectiles' fragments were found on the premises. And projectiles' trajectory can be easily calculated with modern equipment.

On 19 February 1954, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union issued a decree transferring the Crimean Oblast from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian SSR

Administrative border within one country. A whole country (East Germany) was absorbed by West Germany when its people decided to do so. The people of Crimea made its decision.

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Asakaze@wallace

You can provide evidence of that

HIMARS and M777 projectiles' fragments were found on the premises. And projectiles' trajectory can be easily calculated with modern equipment.

That is not evidence that is just saying so.

On 19 February 1954, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union issued a decree transferring the Crimean Oblast from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian SSR

Administrative border within one country. A whole country (East Germany) was absorbed by West Germany when its people decided to do so. The people of Crimea made its decision.

No Putin decided and broke the agreement.

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Olegek

wallace

First - howitzer M777*

> Second - M142 HIMARS*

> You can provide evidence of that.

Distance and accuracy

> And such distance Ukrainian Army has only two options: M777 and HIMARS

> old Soviet artillery is not so good

But where is the actual evidence?

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There are now media reports of officials admitting at a background Pentagon briefing on Monday the "likelihood of Ukranian shelling at the N-plant" 

Made a quick search

> A senior US military official admitted on Monday that Ukrainian forces may have struck the area around the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, but insisted that this was only in response to Russian fire allegedly coming from the area. Earlier in the day, Russian authorities said a Ukrainian artillery shell damaged the roof of the building storing reactor fuel.

https://www.azerbaycan24.com/en/pentagon-admits-likelihood-of-ukrainian-shelling-near-nuclear-plant/

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@wallace

That is not evidence that is just saying so

No, Russia presented the evidence at UN several days ago.

No Putin decided and broke the agreement

Against the will of the people of Crimea? And it's so weird when about broken agreements complain the very same people who agreed not to enlarge NATO.

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