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U.S. denounces Israel on settlements

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By Shaun TANDON

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Denounced "settlements" but of course will still support every move the Zionists make.

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saying it "strongly" opposed new construction on the West Bank.

It's long passed time for the US to say this, what the US will actually do, however is another question, and wonder whether this might affect the development of 'Trump Heights', named to honor the disgraced person who previously sat in the US White House, and who sent his son-in-law Jared to Israel to make more business deals that could benefit the Trump family.

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Israel is nothing more than a battered child who grew up and continued the cycle.

Somehow "strongly opposed" never translates into cutting off the billions of dollars in military aid this country sends to Israel. Instead, it merely signals our continued tacit approval of what Israel is doing.

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Good! Other countries should do the same and more.

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"Criticizing" the Israeli regime for a flagrant war crime in furtherance of a crime against humanity doesn't cut it, only CONDEMNATION does, at a minimum.

It's rather like 'criticizing' the organization responsible for the 'Strange Fruit' that was found hanging in American trees,rather than forcibly, and unmistakably, condemning it.

Something that only marks one as a racist, craven coward, or willfully ignorant.

Add in that the Israeli regime just declared that human rights activists are terrorists, subject to joining the hordes of political prisoners (The regime prefers the term 'administratively detained' but when the White State in South Africa tried a similar way to disguise the truth, 'guest of the state', even the American media refused to call Sobukwe anything but a political prisoner) and human rights organizations subject to having everything stolen from them, and it's EXACTLY like Trump 'criticizing' the January 6th rioters, a greater offense to the notion of civilization than if he'd kept quiet.

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Every time I look at a picture of Israel, I struggle to find anything green. Dont seem to be big on parkland etc. Maybe its a space issue. Looking at those units...not somewhere I would like to live tbh.

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with President Joe Biden's administration saying it "strongly" opposed new construction on the West Bank.

Biden is playing the same old game. “Strongly opposed”, uh . Yeah that’ll shake em up.

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Love how the III folks somehow think that Central Palestine, whose legal population is majority Palestinian nonJews is the exclusive property of the Israeli regime. Again, the parallels to Trump (well, and another strange guy who 'won' the top post in government despite someone else getting more votes in a supposedly democratic system, and then declared that voting didn't matter, he was the boss - though he preferred a different four letter word for that - whether the population wanted it or not) and the Pillowheads are obvious.

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Biden responded to accusations that his administration’s response was weak and ineffectual, “Come on man, I’m strongly opposed!”

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Central Samaria is exclusive property of Israel. They won it fair and square after Jordan and Syria invaded them several times.

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Israeli Arab Separatists have rejected every two-state proposal that has been offered to them in the name of peace and a desire to end the the separatist’s terrorist campaigns.

If a foreign military forced you off your land would you not want it back? I know, as a property owner, I would never settle for less than being given my land back. It is mine. I paid for it and nobody has a right to run me off of it simply because some religious vision says it is theirs and not mine. The right of return is fundamental and must be honored.

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Central Samaria is exclusive property of Israel. They won it fair and square after Jordan and Syria invaded them several times.

Nope. It is a violation of international law to keep land taken in the course of a war.

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First, keep in mind that most Americans support Israel no matter what it does. Most constituencies would punish any politician who stridently opposed Israel. There are very few legislators in either house of Congress who's constituents would tolerate anything less than full throated support of Israel. The few who do (because their constituents mostly share their views) are pilloried by their peers in Congress and by the press. An American President regardless of their personal views on the matter have to navigate this political fact of life in the US. Congress will throw billions of their constituents hard earned at Israel regardless of what a US President thinks of it.

What drives this is the near universal belief among evangelical Christians that a militant and hegemonic Israel at war with the Arabs is a necessary pre-condition for the second coming of Christ. In their religious books the return of a nation of Israel signifies the beginning of the end times prophesies of their religion so to them Israelis killing and suppressing Arabs are a very good thing. It means their "savior" is coming soon. The sooner Israel can start the war that is supposed to end all wars, what they call Armageddon, and lead to them being "saved" and sent to heaven, the better . As crazy as all of that sounds, that is what a large number of evangelical Americans believe, including probably most members of Congress, and those religious beliefs drive US policy towards Israel.

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Time to sanction and boycott Israel until it behaves in an acceptable manner.

About 475,000 Israeli Jews live in settlements in the West Bank

When the state of Palestine is created they will all become Palestinian citizens living in Palestine. Wont that be wonderful for them.

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High politics at its worst.

So, are we, as an international community, locked forever into an irrational justification narrative, from those who would use historical events to exclude any modern-day intervention?

Are we, as an international community, compelled to acknowledge and conform to those countries who would irrationally compel us to conform to their ideals, as World Reality 2.0?

Or can we move ahead as an international community and reconsider our past mistakes? And correct them.

The United Nations Human Rights Council investigation into alleged crimes committed between Israel and Palestinians - into "systematic discrimination and repression" under international humanitarian law - must proceed without any further delay and be supported by the entire international community.

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Dessert Tortoise, I assume you are referring to the Romans, Ottomans and Arabs who displaced the Jewish population?

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Dessert Tortoise, I assume you are referring to the Romans, Ottomans and Arabs who displaced the Jewish population?

You forgot the Babylonians. Nebuchadnezzar II defeated the Kingdom of Judah (note that the Israel of Kings Saul, David and Solomon had already split into two competing kingdoms, Israel and Judah), conquered Jerusalem, incorporated it into the Babylonian Empire and carried the population of Jerusalem off to exile in Persia where many remained until modern times. But how about the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites not just displaced but outright slaughtered during the original Jewish immigration to the "promised land"? How far back do you wish to dial the clock? The origins of the Zionist movement was to escape the mid to late 19th Century pogroms in Poland and Imperial Russia. Is that a legitimate excuse to take land and homes from families in Palestine simply because they are Muslim or Christian (Israel treats Palestinian Christians no better than Palestinian Muslims) and hand that property over to Jews? How would you feel about your own government taking your home by force or the threat of force from you because you are not an adherent to the state preferred religion and giving it to someone else who is a member of that same state preferred religion? Would you not also be outraged? I worked so hard for my own property so yes it boils my blood to see someone else's property taken from them for religious reasons. It is wrong and nothing that happened in the past makes it just to do today.

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A list of groups and actions that are, I've been told, antiSemitic.

The Geneva Conventions

The UN Charter

The terms that the Israeli regime agreed to in exchange for being recognized as a country by the UN

Any definition of Apartheid that wouldn't exclude the White State in South Africa

The NNPT and it's successor the TPNW

Antiracists

B'Tselem

The ICC

Any list of countries who aren't complying with all 3 antiWMD treaties

Statistics from the ME before Palestine was partitioned.

Historical maps of the ME

Any mention of the events in the decade leading up to the Nakbah where Jews aren't victims.

The government of the ME's largest democracy (despite it being home to the second largest Jewish population in the ME)

I'd go on listing but it would grow faster than I could type (it would be antiSemitic to not mention the Jews who I've been told are antiSemitic, but that list is long, so here's a collective shout out to the members of Jews for Palestine and the others who refuse to keep quiet about the truth)

I'll just say that this action by the Israeli regime violates the fundamental principles of modern Judaism.

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