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Iran's top leader says there will be no talks with U.S.

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Yeah, because sticking your fingers in your ears and singing 'la la la la' will accomplish so much. Good luck with that tanking economy, which is totally not related to the sanctions. At all.

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A deal is a deal.

Iran upheld it's end of the deal, everybody agrees with that.

The US destroyed its credibility by reneging on its promises.

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Iran upheld it's end of the deal, everybody agrees with that.

Yeah and what a deal it was... We got suckered.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/05/08/obama-administration-sold-bad-iran-nuclear-deal-editorials-debates/34700171/

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Yeah and what a deal it was... We got suckered.

Then why did all those other countries go along with it?

13 ( +19 / -6 )

The deal was working. Trump could have kept it in place and gone after anything else he wanted.

He decided to be dumb and emotional instead.

14 ( +20 / -6 )

You can take Iran's side all day. Good luck with that..... I'll take the good side...

-14 ( +3 / -17 )

A bad deal is a bad deal, don't ask me why anyone else agreed to it. Read the link I posted (written by a former CIA officer). It left way too many loopholes open for Iran to do whatever they wanted in the future. It wasn't working, Iran was just going along with it until they could squeeze through the loopholes.

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Why did People go along with it? Usually because of the profit involved. Why else? That's nothing out mainstream thought I think.

Now as for Why the reneging? Because it's not about profit, it's about the protection of the U.S. and its allies.

You think Iran only has the next ten years planned out? Think not. Try the next hundred, or even the next thousand. Iran may not open up negotiations, ever.

They don't care about the next 6 six years. They have probably written it off, and will try to just weather the storm.

The issue with that is these are not ancient times and the world doesn't go at the speed of Iran, but of the U.S. and if they don't come to the table, they may not have a country in the next 6 to ten years either let alone the next hundred or thousand. Peace.

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extanker, I’ve read the article and several others like it. I didn’t see anything I haven’t already read and commented on.

The sunset clause is a requirement. No country would agree to a deal in perpetuity. The article references what Iran can do....in 2025. And if they do that then we can put the sanctions back in place, just like we can do today. And finally, there is always the criticism of the deal not being bigger. There is nothing preventing Trump from keeping the deal in place while going after any other agreement he wants.

I’ve seen them all before.

What Trump needs in the cooperation of Europe, China, and Russian since the US won’t be effective alone. Many countries worked hard for this deal and if you think you are fooling one then you must believe you are fooling them all.

Trump has no idea what he will do next. Tell China and Russia that they will be banned from the US if they trade with Iran? Regime change to a theocracy in the Middle East? Trump doesn’t build anything or reach agreements, he just tears up agreements and creates chaos mixed in with hardline stances. We need both our allies and our enemies on this one.

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The mullahs are a lovely bunch.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

If you get a contract and you're upholding your end, suddenly the other signer renegs and says he wants a new contract, you really wanna work with that guy? How can you trust him to uphold the next contract? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...

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Really think that the US care more about Iran than Iran does about the us tbh.

Trump should/could have worked with Iran to defeat IS, something euros understood. Instead, he's pushed US already one-sided approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict further and chose to isolate Iran. A very narrow-minded approach imo.

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A bad deal is a bad deal, don't ask me why anyone else agreed to it. Read the link I posted (written by a former CIA officer).

It's just that I'm not sure why I should take the word of some guy on the internet and a book he read, over the fact that multiple intelligent people from multiple nations, all with a similar goal of denuclearlizing Iran, came up with this agreement, studied it very intently, and decided it was a good deal.

At face value, it would look like anything that some guy on the internet tried to claim otherwise would be entirely laughable, but I figure you deserve a chance to convince us otherwise first.

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Was the US asking for talks?

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Trump is just popping off his chops again. Talking loud and saying nothing. His credibility keeps getting less and less. Nobody wants to talk with him anyway, he's too boorish and obnoxious to work with. And he's peeved because a little bird cheeped a major character flaw of his - he's a wimpy whiny snot boy who loves to get his butt SPANKED. How can anybody respect or take seriously an immature jerk like that? Iran, NK, Russia are all laughing at the USA because of this narcisstic Neanderthal.

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"Was the US asking for talks?" The US no longer asks for anything, it tweets unilateral demands followed with bellicose threats backed by self-defeating knee-jerk sanctions and tariffs. So much winning...

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All the Iranians have to do is try the North Korean Strategy.

It goes like this:

Create a bunch of nukes,

Conduct ICBM tests,

Toss a few insults back at Trump when he flips out on Twitter,

Arrange an international extravaganza (or a summit) with lots of photo ops,

Smile a lot and tell Trump what a great man he is and that you admire & respect him,

Get sanctions lifted based on empty promises,

Hold on to all of your nukes,

Have your cake and eat it too.
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ex-tanker: "A bad deal is a bad deal, don't ask me why anyone else agreed to it."

Because you can't provide an answer why they wouldn't except to parrot the moron Trump and other blind followers. How was it a bad deal? because they can make weapons in 2025, maybe? So, your answer is to allow them to make weapons now instead? Logic is never a strong suit with you guys. In fact, it doesn't seem to exist at all.

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Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said "along with sanctions, Americans have recently raised two more options, war and talks... War will not happen and we will not enter talks."

Very reserved and dignified of him.

However, it's his people who are suffering, not him. The remaining signatories must do the honorable thing and stay with the deal.

Or isolate the Great Satan - teach the Trump admin a lesson.

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Then why did all those other countries go along with it?

Because Obama man-handled them....Don't be fooled.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

"Iran's supreme leader said Monday that his country will neither go to war..."

That's good.

"... nor enter into negotiations with the United States"

That's too bad.

"A deal is a deal."

Unless you were the president of a company and your predecessor had got you into a really bad deal that you had to get out of for the sake of your company. Then all of a sudden that deal would not be a deal any more.

"The deal was working"

For Iran, yeah. They're closer than ever to getting a nuke and got $1.7 billion in cash.

Oh my...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-took-lying-to-new-heights-with-the-iran-deal/2018/06/07/b75f72d2-6a7c-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html?utm_term=.3e219358042f

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Unless you were the president of a company and your predecessor had got you into a really bad deal that you had to get out of for the sake of your company

How exactly was the "sake of the United States" at stake with this deal. Iran is 20,000 miles away.

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What you have are people who won’t get bullied into making stupid decisions on complicated matters. Call it sympathizing with Iran, we really don’t care.

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looks like a lot of Iran sympathizers here. Have fun with that.

Thanks!

I have sympathy for any country that's been shafted by the Great Satan. Doesn't mean I like the religious police and many, many aspects of Iranian life but having, you know, actually met people from there I can tell you that they're not monsters and they want to get on without being ostracised by poorly informed commentators.

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Who would want to talk to him anyway? He's an extremist, obsessed with power, who empowers religious maniacs, and who's currently destroying his own country's economy due to his backwards policies.

The  Ayatollah is correct here.

:)

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@smith

Because you can't provide an answer why they wouldn't except to parrot the moron Trump and other blind followers. How was it a bad deal? because they can make weapons in 2025, maybe? So, your answer is to allow them to make weapons now instead? Logic is never a strong suit with you guys. In fact, it doesn't seem to exist at all.

I provided a link to why I believe it is a bad deal. I admit I don't know why anyone would support that deal. I'm sorry that admitting I don't know something makes you think that I'm a blind Trump supporter with no logic instead of just an honest person who has a different opinion than you.

If someone is in favor of strong immigration policy, they are automatically a Mexican hating racist too, right? I'm sorry, but it's not just black and white anymore. These types of knee jerk opinions are a big reason why the world is in the state it's in.

The most ironic part is I've openly admitted here that I did not vote for Trump and I think he's a buffoon. I just don't blindly follow one side or the other as so many do, I choose to form my own opinions.

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Toasted HereticAug. 14 08:28 pm JSTlooks like a lot of Iran sympathizers here. Have fun with that.

Thanks!

I have sympathy for any country that's been shafted by the Great Satan. Doesn't mean I like the religious police and many, many aspects of Iranian life but having, you know, actually met people from there I can tell you that they're not monsters and they want to get on without being ostracised by poorly informed commentators.

There have been protests and rebellions in Iran against their totalitarian government. Just the same, Americans must also resist the tyranny engulfing the US too. there are innocent OK people in every nation who just want to live their lives.

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Iran's government can pound sand. They've never done anything truly beneficial to their people. They've lied too much, and what money they do get from outside their country doesn't improve the lives of Iranians unless they're crooked and well connected.

In remarks carried by state television, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said "along with sanctions, Americans have recently raised two more options, war and talks... War will not happen and we will not enter talks."

The Khamenei is doing the same thing they always do. I can understand them not entering talks with Trumps idiocy, but they also are shutting out diplomacy again in favor of religious extremism.

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