Iranian missiles in Russia are legitimate target, Ukrainian official says

Iran has provided ballistic missiles for the Kremlin’s war effort.

Iran and Russia are countries led by fossil fuel titans that have been warmongering together keeping tensions high around the globe; they're joined by fellow axis of totalitarianism nations like North Korea and China, each doing what they can to further destabilize life on the planet.

“We strongly reject allegations about Iran’s role in sending weapons to one side of the war and we assess these allegations as politically motivated by some parties,” Kanaani said.

Well, you won't mind when Ukraine uses foreign arms to blow these "non existent" missiles up, then...

Iran has every right to supply weapons to friendly Russia. Every other NATO country under the sun has been pumping arms into Ukraine - a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

Regardless, yet to see a shred of actual evidence of these alleged Iranian missiles, which one assumes may be the BM-120.

Yet again another false equivalency fed to us: Yermak sells it as a big ‘disadvantage’ that it is not allowed to strike Russia’s rear operational-strategic depth, yet Ukraine’s own rear depth lies in NATO territory, in Poland, Germany, Romania, etc. Russia does not strike those either, so it really is a fair game not a disadvantage. If Ukraine wants to strike Russia’s rear logistics, then so should Russia be able to strike Reszow base where Ukraine stages its own supplies - to keep things fair and honest.

This is absolutely true. Bonus points if there are Iranian operators next to them.

JJE

Iran has every right to supply weapons to friendly Russia.

Except that Russia isn't "friendly" and it is waging an illegal, imperialistic war of aggression against Ukraine. Foreign policy doesn't have morals, but it does have consequences.

Yet again another false equivalency fed to us: Yermak sells it as a big ‘disadvantage’ that it is not allowed to strike Russia’s rear operational-strategic depth, yet Ukraine’s own rear depth lies in NATO territory, in Poland, Germany, Romania, etc. Russia does not strike those either, so it really is a fair game not a disadvantage. If Ukraine wants to strike Russia’s rear logistics, then so should Russia be able to strike Reszow base where Ukraine stages its own supplies - to keep things fair and honest.

Again. There are consequences... Putin is in enough trouble as it is...

JJEToday 06:46 am JST

Yet again another false equivalency fed to us: Yermak sells it as a big ‘disadvantage’ that it is not allowed to strike Russia’s rear operational-strategic depth, yet Ukraine’s own rear depth lies in NATO territory, in Poland, Germany, Romania, etc. Russia does not strike those either, so it really is a fair game not a disadvantage.

There are are no missiles or bombers heading out of NATO countries at Russia. What's fair is Ukraine striking all of Russia and its assets.

If Ukraine wants to strike Russia’s rear logistics, then so should Russia be able to strike Reszow base where Ukraine stages its own supplies - to keep things fair and honest.

I encourage Russia to do that and see what happens.

Western countries supply weapons to Ukraine, and eastern countries supply weapons to Russia. Everything is equal. And who will tell you the whole truth during combat operations, what is happening there and how things are going on the battlefield.

The factories that manufacture the missiles in Iran should be legitimate targets as well.

Read what was said - Ukraine uses NATO territory, including Reszow base in Poland, as a protected rear to stage its rear supplies.

And yes, there are missiles and bombers heading out of NATO territory to attack Russia. Quite literally the F16s are based in NATO territory for repair-standby deployment. Every munition - bullet, shell, missile and bomb - comes through NATO territory.

Attacking Russia's strategic depth will provoke a response. Yermak is pretending there are no consequences; there will be.

Kyiv-regime also knows they are toast and drawing NATO in is the only way out to preserve their power.

JJEToday 06:59 am JST

And yes, there are missiles and bombers heading out of NATO territory to attack Russia. Quite literally the F16s are based in NATO territory for repair-standby deployment. Every munition - bullet, shell, missile and bomb - comes through NATO territory.

Did they land in Ukraine first? Then tough cookies.

Read what was said - Ukraine uses NATO territory, including Reszow base in Poland, as a protected rear to stage its rear supplies.

Aw, you poor babies. You don't always get to nuke the complete supply line of your victims.

If the US can supply weapons and “not be a party” to the conflict.

The same goes for Iran.

Anti weapons to Ukraine party won the majority of seats in Germany's local elections according to Mr. Scholz, he is calling on NATO and the west to find ways out of this war as EU nations are beginning to reject the pressure to keep supplying the war efforts.

Yeah. Explain how, by theoretically providing weapons, Tehran suddenly becomes "party to the conflict".

Every other country declares they aren't.

JJE

Yeah. Explain how, by theoretically providing weapons, Tehran suddenly becomes "party to the conflict".

Every other country declares they aren't.

Russia is violating the UN Charter, namely Article 2(4)'s prohibition on the "use of force" against other states.

Russia is the aggressor here. Ukraine is not.

Double speak at its best.

Apply the same logic and all of NATO becomes a legitimate target for Iran, Russia, China and North Korea etc.

Where are calls for deescalation?

Oh, I see.

International law only applies to Ukraine and when the main sponsor declares as it suits them.

How convenient.

Iran has every right to support Moscow's police action on its doorstep.

You can't win a war if you only do defense. You must do offense too.

If Ukraine wants, they should hit trains and ships coming from Iran carrying weapons when they arrive in Russian ports. The most likely method is shipping across the Black Sea from Northern Iran to the Volga region of Russia, just east of Ukraine.

The only confirmed weapons sent from Iran to Russia are Shahed drones. Iran is denying involvement. Russia is not. Satellites will be watching docks in Iran and Russia for missile on-off loading. Missiles aren't tiny and need special trucks, so it is possible the trucks needed will be shipped too.

The EU says they have credible evidence. NATO isn't talking. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/9/russia-brands-iran-important-partner-amid-reports-of-missile-supplies

@JJE: Tehran suddenly becomes "party to the conflict".

See Syria for another example of Iran and Russia being 'party to a conflict'. Fossil fuel financed nations, ld by fossils are warmongering vultures of a feather killing civilians together.

JJE

Oh, I see.

International law only applies to Ukraine and when the main sponsor declares as it suits them.

How convenient.

Nope. It applies to all members of the UN.

Iran has every right to support Moscow's police action on its doorstep.

Moscow doesn't have a police action on their doorstep. They have a totally unprovoked, imperialistic war of aggression.

The entire NATO circus of losers is supplying weapons to the kyiv regime, why the scream, drama and whining about a few missiles that Iran is giving to Russia??...

It's a war...

Obviously, someone meant the Caspian Sea.

Fath 360 (BM-120) launcher is basically a civilian truck, at least from outwards appearance.

If this is all true, this could give Russian forces some good short-range, guided hitting power, allowing them to prioritize Iskander and other platforms to prosecute longer range targets elsewhere.

The 64 dollar questions: is this all true, and, if so, will they make an appearance on the Donbass Front?

End the circle of lies gets closed, to form a fact impervious 'truth'.

And, of course, when Iran responds to the Israeli regime's barbaric acts, that it has top of the line missiles in quantity long after America's spinmeisters insist it is 'running out' will be 'explained' as them getting Russian missiles.

But the unreported (at least in SOME media) numbers show Russia is outproducing ALL of NATO in the weapons and ammunition being used in the war that started with the overthrow of the last democratically elected government a united peaceful Ukraine had, for less cost.

It doesn't need to 'buy artillery shells from North Korea' or 'buy drones/missiles from Iran', but the population of the White Bloc can't be allowed to see that the war Obama started is a losing war.

Because if it did, that population might want it's money spent on better causes (like domestic health care, the infrastructure needed to get off of fossil fuels, reversing the growth of the inequality gap) that are less efficient at transferring money from the pockets of ordinary taxpayers to the overflowing coffers of the 1%

Cry us a river, Russia.

Russia is violating the UN Charter, namely Article 2(4)'s prohibition on the "use of force" against other states.

Zelensky violated the exact same article in the Charter when he invaded Kursk on August 6 and forced 100,000 innocent civilians from there homes at gunpoint, which is a war crime by the way.

Any theoretical moral high ground Ukraine could have claimed was wiped out the day Zelensky ordered his army to cross the international border.

Zelensky’s next move will be to drone bomb a missile factory in Iran, in order to set the precedent for Russia to respond by hitting a factory in the West and thus draw NATO into open war with Russia and China.

Banthu

Russia is violating the UN Charter, namely Article 2(4)'s prohibition on the "use of force" against other states.

Zelensky violated the exact same article in the Charter when he invaded Kursk on August 6 and forced 100,000 innocent civilians from there homes at gunpoint, which is a war crime by the way.

Nobody is being forced from their homes.

kurisupisuToday 07:33 am JST

Double speak at its best.

Apply the same logic and all of NATO becomes a legitimate target for Iran, Russia, China and North Korea etc.

It's quite clear that missiles and bombers do not come out of NATO territory to attack Russia.

BanthuToday 08:09 am JST

Russia is violating the UN Charter, namely Article 2(4)'s prohibition on the "use of force" against other states.

Zelensky violated the exact same article in the Charter when he invaded Kursk on August 6 and forced 100,000 innocent civilians from there homes at gunpoint, which is a war crime by the way.

Any theoretical moral high ground Ukraine could have claimed was wiped out the day Zelensky ordered his army to cross the international border.

Tell it to the ICC. None of this would have happened without Russian criminality to start with.

Zelensky’s next move will be to drone bomb a missile factory in Iran, in order to set the precedent for Russia to respond by hitting a factory in the West and thus draw NATO into open war with Russia and China.

I don't know what Zelenskyy's next move will be but Putin knows he won't be walking away from striking NATO.

Tehran would be well advised to support Russia, especially right now. Helping Moscow finish off another US proxy because of Israel's flagrant provocations make perfectly logical sense. Tehran remembers how Zelensky came out with bells on for Israel last October. Assisting the disposal of that client regime just maybe jumped up the ladder in priority and it would certainly teach them a lesson.

RichardPearceToday 08:06 am JST

It doesn't need to 'buy artillery shells from North Korea' or 'buy drones/missiles from Iran', but the population of the White Bloc can't be allowed to see that the war Obama started is a losing war.

It's Obama's war now? I guess you will try to sell anything.

But the unreported (at least in SOME media) numbers show Russia is outproducing ALL of NATO in the weapons and ammunition being used in the war that started with the overthrow of the last democratically elected government a united peaceful Ukraine had, for less cost.

Still Putin's war against the 100% UN recognized Ukrainian government and people.

JJEToday 08:26 am JST

Tehran would be well advised to support Russia, especially right now. Helping Moscow finish off another US proxy because of Israel's flagrant provocations make perfectly logical sense. Tehran remembers how Zelensky came out with bells on for Israel last October. Assisting the disposal of that client regime just maybe jumped up the ladder in priority and it would certainly teach them a lesson.

The only lessons being taught are to Russian and Iranian citizens that trying to wipe countries off of the face of the earth is expensive for their own wellbeing.

No country is being 'wiped off the face of the earth'. They just intend to finish off the regime (the proxy).

The former is quite distinct from the latter and it is unhelpful to conflate the two.

JJEToday 08:34 am JST

No country is being 'wiped off the face of the earth'. They just intend to finish off the regime (the proxy).

The former is quite distinct from the latter and it is unhelpful to conflate the two.

65% percent support Zelenskyy at last check and I bet 90% still hate Russia more than Zelenksyy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn007p39zdzo

That's a lot of women and children needing to be wiped out for Moscow to declare victory. Close enough.

If a single Iranian or NK missile is used in Ukraine, then it should follow that it's fine to use any weapons given to Ukraine to attack anywhere in Russia.

Iran has every right to supply weapons to friendly Russia. Every other NATO country under the sun has been pumping arms into Ukraine - a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

uno momento per favor.

what exactly is problem here?

UA getting stocks from NATO.Russian are getting some from Iran.

???

2020hindsights

pause in proKamala campaign today?

Nobody is being forced from their homes

PROVE IT.As reality on the ground says something very different.

Eastmann

2020hindsights

pause in proKamala campaign today?

Nobody is being forced from their homes

PROVE IT.As reality on the ground says something very different.

Prove that they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqhu9DE6ggI

There's only a problem if Ukraine can't use the weapons given to them to attack Russia. I think the ban will be lifted very soon for this reason.

uno momento per favor.

what exactly is problem here?

UA getting stocks from NATO.Russian are getting some from Iran.

???

2020hindsights

your weblink does not work.

i dont consider this as a PROOF

what else do you have?

this is another sign that Kiev junta is getting desperate as some of them are coming to their senses and have left Titanic ASAP....

if any of you still believes that UA have even slim chance to win or as you like to say-to prevail-must be disinfomed or completely without touch with reality...

fallafel

???

"Iran and Russia are countries led by fossil fuel titans that have been warmongering together keeping tensions high around the globe;"

And yet Iran / Russia " warmongering around the globe " pales in comparison to Uncle Sam efforts, don't it. Fact.

Ukraine can't use Western long-range weapons to attack Russia yet (except in areas close to the border under some specific circumstances). This restriction might be lifted if the Iranian missiles are used by Russia.

fallafel

???

fallafel

simple question.

will this cancel bring victory to UA as Volodymyr have said war will be ended this autumn?or will we go nuclear as next step???

I am asking just for your private opinion as we see NATO weaponry did NOTHING yet...these are no game changers at all

My understanding is the US Joint Chiefs of Staff have an agreement with the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in exchange for not providing permission for Ukraine to use missiles on Russia, Russia will not provide Iran with nuclear weapons.

proxy

My understanding is the US Joint Chiefs of Staff have an agreement with the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in exchange for not providing permission for Ukraine to use missiles on Russia, Russia will not provide Iran with nuclear weapons.

No, that's not the case.

Russia is a signatory to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), which means they cannot provide Iran with nuclear weapons.

Russia is a signatory to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), which means they cannot provide Iran with nuclear weapons.

Is that how the world works?

@Underworld

Oh, what are they going to do, sanction Russia and issues an arrest warrant?

Are we sure these missiles aren't Brazilian or South African. Remember Nelson Mandela was a Russian backed terrorist, and the President of Brazil is. the next best thing to a communist dictator (according to the many of the people who insist Maduro wasn't democratically elected)

burgers and beersToday 09:20 am JST

"Iran and Russia are countries led by fossil fuel titans that have been warmongering together keeping tensions high around the globe;"

And yet Iran / Russia " warmongering around the globe " pales in comparison to Uncle Sam efforts, don't it. Fact.

Not by number of deaths and displaced from 2022-2024. Fact.

> A senior Ukrainian official said Monday Western partner countries must allow Ukraine to use weapons they have supplied to strike military warehouses inside Russia because of strong suspicions Iran has provided ballistic missiles for the Kremlin’s war effort.

Because of strong suspicions? Lol only idiots will agree that's enough ground

And yet Iran / Russia " warmongering around the globe " pales in comparison to Uncle Sam efforts, don't it. Fact..........*Not by number of deaths and displaced from 2022-2024. Fact.

How convenient to only point out 2022-24. Weak sauce TINC. Uncle Sam is the undisputed warmonger champion of the last 50 odd years. Fact.

burgers and beersToday 11:14 am JST

Moscow doesn't have a police action on their doorstep. They have a totally unprovoked, imperialistic war of aggression.

False. The conflict was provoked by western warmonger efforts and their long term quest to strategically weaken / defeat Russia. Ukraine was used for that purpose.

And funny how none of that is a legal justification for war, let alone theft of territory. Tanks were rolling only one way on Feb. 24th, 2022.

Simple answer is that it will help Ukraine protect itself better, and help Russian people understand what Ukrainian people have been experiencing. I don't care what was said by anyone, and going nuclear is just your imagination.

Unless you have a time machine, you can't know the impact that not having NATO weaponry would have had in Ukraine.

fallafelsimple question.

will this cancel bring victory to UA as Volodymyr have said war will be ended this autumn?or will we go nuclear as next step???

I am asking just for your private opinion as we see NATO weaponry did NOTHING yet...these are no game changers at all

burgers and beersToday 11:16 am JST

And yet Iran / Russia " warmongering around the globe " pales in comparison to Uncle Sam efforts, don't it. Fact..........*Not by number of deaths and displaced from 2022-2024. Fact.

How convenient to only point out 2022-24. Weak sauce TINC. Uncle Sam is the undisputed warmonger champion of the last 50 odd years. Fact.

Land last annexed in 1898. Fact. And it's quite likely Russia has killed more people than the US has in the last 50 years.

A Washington ally annex's land regularly. Don't pretend to be so outraged by land annexations! Serbia lost territory too. Syria too.

Nothing unusual or unique is happening to Ukraine that hasn't happened to others.

Or, for that matter, Iranian missiles in Iran are legitimate targets.

JJE

A Washington ally annex's land regularly. Don't pretend to be so outraged by land annexations! Serbia lost territory too. Syria too.

No land annexed by the US. Sorry.