Israel pulling some troops from southern Gaza; plan to clear Hamas from Rafah

Good news, for people from occupied territory. Somehow occupier stop? What next War crime tribunal?

https://www.hrw.org/video-photos/video/2024/04/04/israel-airstrike-gaza-apparent-war-crime

“Humanity has been all but abandoned”

Yet the US continues to supply these war criminals with weapons to slaughter more women and children and make Gaza uninhabitable!

Disgusting hypocrisy!

Good news, for people from occupied territory. Somehow occupier stop?

What do you mean when you say “occupier”? Who is occupying what?

@JboneInTheZone

What do you mean when you say “occupier”? Who is occupying what?

Isn't that obvious?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/22/how-does-israels-occupation-of-palestine-work

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Some other called it, settler colonialism.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/12/10/how-international-law-is-used-to-cover-up-israeli-settler-colonialism

Isn't that obvious?

No. That’s why I’m asking. Do you consider the entirety of the Israeli state an occupying force?

You use the word “occupier” a lot. Please stake your exact definition of what you mean l

Sounds like Bibi is beginning to feel some political heat.

Good. Crank up the temp on him.

So, despite the way the 'article' tries to make it sound, the genocide (as every major human rights group, including B'Tselem describes it, and the ICJ confirms it is reasonable to term it such) continues.

So the Israeli regime is violating international laws (UNSC resolutions and the orders of the ICJ) committing multiple Crimes Against Humanity, and the case to determine if countries that have continued to sell it weapons, help them target the population of Gaza, and, possibly, defunded UNRWA, after the Provisional Measures were announced, are also reasonably termed as committing genocide starts in a few hours.

and the ICJ confirms it is reasonable to term it such

No, it doesn’t. You’re either lying or severely misinformed

So the Israeli regime is violating international laws (UNSC resolutions and the orders of the ICJ) 

The ICJ NEVER determined that Israel is violating international law. Again, another complete lie

"A plausible case of Genocide " is how the ICJ termed one aspect of Israel's conduct.

And the UN has regularly passed resolution against Israel which Israel ignores.

""But defense officials said troops were merely regrouping as the army prepares to move into Hamas’ last stronghold, Rafah. “The war in Gaza continues, and we are far from stopping,” said the military chief, Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi.""

Netanyahu Psychological warfare at it's best, this war monger has lost all credibility at home and abroad, Israel's Credibility in the eyes of the world is as low as it can get because of this leadership.

What Israeli's need to do is to vote out this monster and start rebuilding, Hamas, other resistance groups, and the Palestinians will always be there for as long as Israel continues to Deny their basic Human Rights and Occupy their land .Simple as that.

"A plausible case of Genocide "

Show me in the ICJ ruling where it says this. I’ll wait

The court made absolutely no ruling on genocide. The closest it came was stating: “at least some of the acts and omissions alleged by South Africa to have been committed by Israel in Gaza appear to be capable of falling within the provisions of the (Genocide) Convention.”

This doesn’t state there’s any evidence of those acts occurring at all.

Google "what International Laws has Israel violated " for a comprehensive list.

"looking forward " to Israel in the Hague.

Rogue state actions must be punished.

Parsing words and flicking questions Bone ?

I dont do others homework.

Israel has destroyed Gaza and killed tens of thousands.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/top-un-court-will-hold-hearings-in-a-case-accusing-germany-of-facilitating-israels-gaza-conflict/ar-BB1lcTjY

pressure ratcheting not only against the war criminals in Israel but the war criminals supplying them with weapons! Great work Nicaragua!

Parsing words and flicking questions Bone ?

I dont do others homework.

So you have no proof to back up your claims. I accept your concession.

Google "what International Laws has Israel violated " for a comprehensive list.

I did, and found no court ruling determine Israel guilty of anything.

Give me a link....

Proof it....

If asking for you to prove your beliefs falls into the category propagandized language you really need to sit down and rethink your beliefs

IF and When the IOF decides to move into Rafah, the outcome shall be NO Different than the rest of Gaza, total FAILURE.

What else could any other Indigenous People do other that Resisting and Fighting Back when some Armed to the teeth Occupying force Attacks, Kills, Rapes, Burn their homes, Steal their land, and Destroy their way of life?

It is the Palestinians Natural and Basic Humans right to RESSIST and Fight Back any Occupation and or attacks on their people.

Israel has been meticulous in its approach and it is mopping up its operations and then on to Rafah.

It is the Palestinians Natural and Basic Humans right to RESSIST and Fight Back any Occupation and or attacks on their people.

Please explain how killing innocent civilians on 10/7 constitutes “resistance”

Israel has been meticulous in its approach

50/1 on that being the case.

JboneInTheZone

Today 10:06 am JST

It is the Palestinians Natural and Basic Humans right to RESSIST and Fight Back any Occupation and or attacks on their people.

> Please explain how killing innocent civilians on 10/7 constitutes “resistance”

Ok same here!

Explain how killing innocent civilians in Lebanon, Syria, the West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem, etc... all before and after October 7th is defending yourself.

2009 to before October 7th 2023 Israel IDF had killed over 6,000 Palestinians 40% women and children, in that same time fewer than 400 Israelis were killed by Palestinians this includes just regular criminal offense like during a robbery etc...) of those 6,000 killed, 2500 were killed during non conflicts! Add to that number the 1,000 Palestinians killed by settlers illegally taking land in the west bank increasing settlements from the agreed 140 to now over 279 and this does not include the 1,000 killed by settlers in 2023 alone. All done with the protection of the IDF and Israeli government.

You and anyone else can go on and on about the "innocent civilians" killed on October 7th, but Israel has killed 10 times more civilians before October 7th and 29 times the number since!

Explain how killing innocent civilians in Lebanon, Syria, the West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem, etc... all before and after October 7th is defending yourself.

2009 to before October 7th 2023 Israel IDF had killed over 6,000 Palestinians 40% women and children, in that same time fewer than 400 Israelis were killed by Palestinians this includes just regular criminal offense like during a robbery etc...) of those 6,000 killed, 2500 were killed during non conflicts! Add to that number the 1,000 Palestinians killed by settlers illegally taking land in the west bank increasing settlements from the agreed 140 to now over 279 and this does not include the 1,000 killed by settlers in 2023 alone. All done with the protection of the IDF and Israeli government.

You and anyone else can go on and on about the "innocent civilians" killed on October 7th, but Israel has killed 10 times more civilians before October 7th and 29 times the number since!

Whatsboutism. I’ve never staked a position on what you’re rambling about. So can you actually engage with my question instead of trying to weasel out of it?

Facts:

Arabs make up 21% of the population, but only 3% of the elected officials.

There has never been a single Arab cabinet minister, the community on Arabs affairs has never had a single Arab on the community until 2023 when a single non voting Arab member was added.

Arab Israelis are barred from many positions based on "security" concerns!

Would you like me to continue?

Can you point out where in Israeli law it excludes Arabs from government positions based purely on their race?

Arab Muslims in Israeli were the ones who originally fought to be excluded from military positions so your point is null

The attack on the Iranian embassy may have had an impact on the decision. I wouldnt be surprised if the US forces Israel to come to pack it in ASAP, to avoid retaliatory action from Iran.

JboneInTheZone

Today 10:31 am JST

Can you point out where in Israeli law it excludes Arabs from government positions based purely on their race?

Sure:

Arabic was until July 2018 one of Israel's official languages

following Supreme Court rulings in the 1990s. Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People defines Hebrew as the official language of the State and gives the Arabic language a special status.

This by default excludes many in the typical backhanded way!

The

Oh they are not excluded just they don't master Hebrew, not our fault!

Even the schools are segregated of course with plausible deniability on the part of the Israeli state!

Arabs make up 21% of the citizens and non citizen Arabs add to that percentage all pay Israeli taxes but only 7% of the government budget goes to Arabs or Arab communities!

Israeli High Court Justice (Ret.) Theodor Or wrote in The Report by the State Commission of Inquiry into the Events of October 2000

> The Arab citizens of Israel live in a reality in which they experience discrimination as Arabs. This inequality has been documented in a large number of professional surveys and studies, has been confirmed in court judgments and government resolutions, and has also found expression in reports by the state comptroller and in other official documents. Although the Jewish majority's awareness of this discrimination is often quite low, it plays a central role in the sensibilities and attitudes of Arab citizens. This discrimination is widely accepted, both within the Arab sector and outside it, and by official assessments, as a chief cause of agitation.

It seems you need to do better checking.

Interesting that Arabs make up 21% of the Israeli population yet only 3% of elected officials. I would love to see comparable figures for the surrounding territories- What percentage do Jews make up in Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, etc. and how many Jewish elected officials are there in those countries?

I'll wait for you to look it up.

As for the state of the Hamas war, it is coming down to the end now. All the Gazans demonstrating for a cease fire can rest easy- there will be a long cease fire once the Hamas terrorists have been eliminated.

There is a certain irony in the criminal regime in Tehran whinging about embassies. Are they so forgetful of their own history? Their so-called revolution delighted in violating the embassies of sovereign nations and killing/kidnapping the staff therein.

JboneInTheZone

Today 10:31 am JST

The single and best example of Arab exclusion is the "Arab Affairs" committee has 21 members and until 2023 didn't have a single Arab on the committee and the one (1) recently added has no voting rights!

Explain that as equal and inclusive!

Attilathehungry

Today 11:08 am JST

90% of your comment is the strawman defense and isn't worth even reading, wasted my time.

there will be a long cease fire once the Hamas terrorists have been eliminated.

Sadly the actions of Israel in Gaza and it's backing settler attacks in the West Bank have actually had the opposite effect, with support for Hamas and it's influence in the West Bank increasing!

But we all know the real goal isn't to stop Hamas but to remove all Palestinians from Gaza and take the land and then do the same in the West Bank, Netanyahu and his supporters have said this was their goal long before October 7th.

What percentage of the Gaza population is Jewish?

Arabic was until July 2018 one of Israel's official languages

following Supreme Court rulings in the 1990s. Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People defines Hebrew as the official language of the State and gives the Arabic language a special status.

That isn’t exclusionary to Arab people as a race. Would you also say that English being the state language of the UK is discriminatory towards French people in the UK?

It seems you need to do better checking.

Literally nothing you posted shows any type of discriminatory policy codified in law

The single and best example of Arab exclusion is the "Arab Affairs" committee has 21 members and until 2023 didn't have a single Arab on the committee and the one (1) recently added has no voting rights!

Please post the law that specifically denies the Arab members from voting

The Israeli war and destruction of Gaza have most likely created hundreds of thousands of new terrorists.

Antique: nice dodge there. You know very well the answer is zero and zero. There are no Jews left in any of the surrounding Arab countries, certainly none in the government. Why is that, I wonder? I bring it up to highlight the utter hypocrisy of complaining about Israeli treatment of its minority communities while completely ignoring the utter depravity of the Arabs when it comes to their dealings with the Jews who used to live there. Used to live there....

Wallace; you are wrong. The destruction of Nazi Germany did not create hundreds of thousands of new Nazis. The destruction of Imperial Japan did not create hundreds of thousands of new Imperial die-hards. The destruction of Hamas and the removal of their hands from the collective throat of Gaza will create prosperity and peace for the Gazan population, things they have not known since Hamas took power.

JboneInTheZone

Today 11:39 am JST

Arabic was until July 2018 one of Israel's official languages

> following Supreme Court rulings in the 1990s. Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People defines Hebrew as the official language of the State and gives the Arabic language a special status.

> That isn’t exclusionary to Arab people as a race. Would you also say that English being the state language of the UK is discriminatory towards French people in the UK?

Another strawman comment.

The french are not the people that originally lived in England so not the same, Arabs were there long before Israel was created by those coming from Europe!

But you knew that and had no actual reply so used a strawman defense which failed!

> JboneInTheZone

Today 11:40 am JST

The single and best example of Arab exclusion is the "Arab Affairs" committee has 21 members and until 2023 didn't have a single Arab on the committee and the one (1) recently added has no voting rights!

> Please post the law that specifically denies the Arab members from voting

Obviously you:

1-) don't know what a committee is.

2-) don't understand how committees work!