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Lets exterminate these vermin.

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So how many of you are still saying we should do nothing? This is a problem and everyone is 'in it' whether they like it or not. Keep an eye out for what you think is a problem and report it. Remember that before 9/11 no one (the public) really thought that something like that could really happen except for in the movies. The world has changed and we all need to look out for each other. Report it if you think it's suspicious. Better safe than sorry.

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@ossan

My exact thoughts. The sooner, the better.

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KnowBetter:

" So how many of you are still saying we should do nothing? "

"Doing nothing" is better than doing the wrong thing, which is what Obamas policy is.

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IS radicals call for the death of US civilian... and in response US extremists on these very forums respond by calling for his death.

Irony much?

OssanAmericaSep. 22, 2014 - 09:12PM JST Lets exterminate these vermin.

bass4funkSep. 22, 2014 - 09:35PM JST @ossan My exact thoughts. The sooner, the better.

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Time for total war against these scum.

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“If you can kill a disbelieving American or European—especially the spiteful and filthy French—or an Australian, or a Canadian or any other disbeliever… including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him,” said Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, the group’s spokesman.

So does anyone still believe the West is not at war with Muslim fundamentalists? I know Obama and Kerry think that way but they have their heads stuck in the sand.

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“If you can kill a disbelieving American or European—especially the spiteful and filthy French—or an Australian, or a Canadian or any other disbeliever… including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him,” said Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, the group’s spokesman.

“Kill the disbeliever whether he is civilian or military,”

That is the final nail for me. The faster we can send these guys to waiting virgins, the better off we all will be!

@frungy

IS radicals call for the death of US civilian... and in response US extremists on these very forums respond by calling for his death.

You mean US civilianS. No, we are calling for the elimination of all radical Jihadists!

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'So does anyone still believe the West is not at war with Muslim fundamentalists? I know Obama and Kerry think that way but they have their heads stuck in the sand.'

Heads in the sand? More bodies in the sand in yet another failure/bloodbath in this part of the world is not the answer.

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Jimizo

The choice is not whether blood will spill. It is whose and how much.

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JtDanMan:

" The choice is not whether blood will spill. It is whose and how much. "

Regard a victory over ISIS and related groups, it is irrelevant how much blood will be spilt. You can not fight an ideology with bullets. As long as we are unwilling to address the ideological foundation of jihadism, we will be on the losing end.

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So how many of you are still saying we should do nothing?

Me.

This is a problem and everyone is 'in it' whether they like it or not.

No, it's only a problem for citizens of countries who are meddling with ISIS when they have no right to be there.

This threat by ISIS directly proves what I've been saying all along - Western meddling in this holy war increases the likelihood of being attacked, it doesn't reduce it. The terrorists are saying that themselves: "attack us, and we'll attack your people". Why should American citizens have to be attacked because their government has decided to participate in a holy war that has nothing to do with them?

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It's rare to have ridiculously two-dimensional villains show up like this. They frankly wouldn't make into a Sylvester Stallone movie.

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violence is never the right answer.

on both sides.

more you want to exterminate them, more they want to exterminate us.

Could we think about a better solution?

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Strange to read this thread when the poll this week suggests the opposite.

To leave these guys alone and let them conquer, expand, and terrorize the region is not the right thing to do. No telling where they'll stop. WIll the crude still flow? Would the Suez Canal be passible? Would all non believers be beheaded?

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To leave these guys alone and let them conquer, expand, and terrorize the region is not the right thing to do.

You're right. But that doesn't mean that the right thing to do is for an unrelated country to deal with them. The governments of the countries in which they are operating should be making every effort to deal with them, and if said governments choose not to, then that's their problem.

No telling where they'll stop.

They are a bunch of rag-tag guys with weapons. It's not like they are going to suddenly take a bunch of tanks, aircraft carriers, helicopters and guns on an invasion of America. They are going to stay in the middle east. So actually, there is telling where they will stop.

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This threat by ISIS directly proves what I've been saying all along - Western meddling in this holy war increases the likelihood of being attacked, it doesn't reduce it.

That's the story the Left like's to peddle but it is false. The first World Trade Center attack, the USS Cole, 9/11, it doesn't make a difference. Then there's the London subway attack, the recent plot to behead random people in Australia. The Islamic fascists have declared war on the infidels - all of them.

You may not want to be at war but you do not have a choice. They intend to bring the war to you.

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That's the story the Left like's to peddle but it is false. The first World Trade Center attack, the USS Cole, 9/11, it doesn't make a difference.

If you honestly believe that killing innocent people isn't going to create more hostility, and more intent to kill the people that killed the attackers, than you are completely ignoring the fact that the very attacks you are listing have made you want to go kill the people that attacked you. What makes you think that they are going to react any differently than you are?

Not only that, as I said, "Western meddling in this holy war increases the likelihood of being attacked, it doesn't reduce it.", and you listed off some attacks that happened as proof against my claim of increasing likelihood. If you want to prove my comments wrong, you need to show how attacking in the Middle East will not increase the likelihood of attacks. Simply pointing out some attacks that happened does not provide any evidence regarding the increase or decrease of likelihood.

You may not want to be at war but you do not have a choice. They intend to bring the war to you.

You realize that the other side is saying the exact same thing, right? The difference of course being that you are planning on invading their country with a military and bombs, while they are not intending to do so.

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Strangerland:

" If you honestly believe that killing innocent people isn't going to create more hostility, and more intent to kill the people that killed the attackers, than you are completely ignoring the fact that the very attacks you are listing have made you want to go kill the people that attacked you. What makes you think that they are going to react any differently than you are? "

And what makes you think that appeasing Jihadis makes them like you? That one has been tried over and over and does not work. The Jihadis want to kill you and me not for anything particular that we have done, but simply for what we are: disbelievers, destined for hell anyway.

Ironically, I agree with you that Obamas policy in Syria and Iraq is completely misguided. He should leave the fight against them to those who are actually willing to take them on seriously, i.e. the Shia governments in the region.

I also agree that Obamas current policy will make things worse, much worse. But not (as you seem to think) that those who hate us now will hate us more, simply because some bombs drop on them. That is fairytale stuff.

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And what makes you think that appeasing Jihadis makes them like you?

What makes you think I think that? It's nothing I've ever claimed.

I also agree that Obamas current policy will make things worse, much worse.

So we're at least partially in agreement.

But not (as you seem to think) that those who hate us now will hate us more, simply because some bombs drop on them. That is fairytale stuff.

Again, you seem to be arguing against something I've never claimed. I haven't said that those who hate the west will hate the west more. What I have said is that dropping bombs on innocents will create new fighters out of those who may not have been otherwise.

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So what Stranger is saying basically is, leave them alone and they will call off their Jihad and will never threaten or bother or kill US or NON-muslims EVER again. Because they are peaceful and misunderstood. Because killing them, inevitably will surely lead to innocents being killed, therefore, we should suck it up and never do anything to them, even if it means with ground troops surgically trying to get these high value targets, the if just not worth it.

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So what Stranger is saying basically is

No. What you are saying is if you want to make a fire smaller, pour gasoline on it.

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Strangerland:

" I haven't said that those who hate the west will hate the west more. "

Good. We agree.

"What I have said is that dropping bombs on innocents will create new fighters out of those who may not have been otherwise. "

...and back to the same old nonsensical PC claim that Islamic radicalism is somehow created by us. Of course that is nonsense. Your above distinction is completely artificial. Basically, you are saying the same that you first claimed you did not say.... go figure.

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That's the story the Left like's to peddle but it is false.

No. I, along with the majority of my fellow Dems, am on the left. It ain't the Left.

You're not even talking about the socialist left. Because plenty of socialists recognize the role for US power.

You're talking about the anti-American left. The "internationalist" left. And the pacifist left.

Which are distinct minority, and generally disregarded by the Democratic party leadership. Recall Rahm Emanuel's kind words towards them.

No, the problem is not the Left. The problem is the Right. As always. The Right, mainstream 'conservatives' brought us the Iraq war. And that monumental blunder has made the head-in-the-sand idiocy of the anti-American and pacifist left just that much more alluring.

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No, the problem is not the Left. The problem is the Right. As always. The Right, mainstream 'conservatives' brought us the Iraq war. And that monumental blunder has made the head-in-the-sand idiocy of the anti-American and pacifist left just that much more alluring.

Ok, so even if you want to blame conservatives for going into Iraq in the first place, but still 40% of Democrats voted for authorization of use of force. It's still a big number. The dovish mainstream LEFT have always been for appeasement and allowing the enemy to become more emboldened and to take advantage of that appeasement as a sign of pure weakness. But now we are seeing once again the pendulum swing the opposite way and people do want more action taken by Obama, but the public does think that Obama is becoming too weak to lead. I think the main problem is also, most of our educational system in the public arena are taught by far-left, anti-everything that they can hate anything and anti-something. Our teachers are mostly leftist anarchist that hate everything about our country and pass these teaching onto our kids instead of being socially and politically center in the classroom, no wonder "Home schooling" is becoming more popular these days. I feel the opposite as well, Obama and the left knew and had 4 years to block, to stop the bleeding and the growth of ISIS, but focused more on domestic issues, including the election and made it more of a priority than to take the necessary actions to circumvent ISIS. They didn't and the Dems and the president allowed ISIS to flourish and even now the language Obama uses is very perplexing. He won't allow ground troops, but we have already over 1000 special forces. He doesn't want to go to war, but we are sending Tomahawk missiles and droning ISIS positions, but it's not a war? He wants to dismantle, diminish, push back or destroy ISIS, so which is it and you can obviously see that Obama just wants to get his toe wet long enough until he can finish out his 849 days (which can't come soon enough) he dithers and knows everything better than everyone else and because of that, here we are. So both presidents get the blame, one for getting us in and the other for getting us back in, when he said, we were out.

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Yesterday young 18 years old Muslim man had attacked two Police officers in Endeavor Hills South Eastern suburb of Melbourne where not far from my home. Both Police officers hospitalized one officer was in serious condition. Also the attacker was shot dead by Police officer. The young Muslim man had his Passport was canceled and prevented from leaving Australia for to join ISIS. He had been asked to attend an interview as part of an investigation by AFP at local Endeavor Hills Police station. He attacked Police officers outside the Police station and also he talking about killing PM Tony Abbott. In the end he was shot dead and two Police officers were seriously hurt. One officer was critical condition at Alfred Hospital in Melbourne.

I think he was very upset by taking away his Passport and not let him join ISIS. Government should let all Australian Jihadists go and join ISIS if they do not come back to Australia. Keeping Jihadists on Australia soil is dangerous too. Let them go with one way ticket is possibly good option.

Don't forget there's many young peoples were brain wash by extremist Islamist preachers on Internet and local Mosque. Young Muslim men believe they will be rewarded with 72 beautiful Virgins by Allah if they were died as Jihadist. Look at yesterday attack in Australia, 18 years old young man had committed premeditated murder to two Police officers. He was supposed to be interview by AFP but he brought knife and attempted to kill Police officers. We don’t know how many crazy radicalized young Muslims in our community.

The fanatic home grown Muslim Jihadists are threatening to our civilized society is true. Green politicians and civil right activists must understand the fanatic Muslim extremists will not let you go when they random attacking on innocent civilians even ISIS advocate Greens Senator Peter Whish-Wilson can’t be escaped. Greens Senator Peter Whish-Wilson had famously opposed calling against “terrorist and terrorism” to ISIS group in Senate. Also his Green Party leader Senator Christine Milne had supported him and against calling terrorist to ISIS. Green does not understand what they are talking about. Green Senators will oppose any strong measure counter terrorism against Muslim extremism in Australia. The Green said it's racist and targeting Muslim community. They don't understand only Muslim extremism has problem with western civilized culture and other religions. Let the Government do its duty and protect civilized society from Muslim extremists.

Also Japan can not avoid from terrorist attack because they hate democracy and western civilization. Japanese Government must prepare for counter terrorism in Japan. Today terrorism won’t be coming like 9/11 and it can be individual and random attack on Westerners and Japanese in public place. Prevention is best option for all.

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JTDanman:

" No, the problem is not the Left. The problem is the Right. As always. The Right, mainstream 'conservatives' brought us the Iraq war. And that monumental blunder has made the head-in-the-sand idiocy of the anti-American and pacifist left just that much more alluring. "

Again, the same selective memory that seems so rampant here. Yes, the American right blundered. But the since then, the Obama government has piled on blunder after blunder, with their idiotic support for Sunni radicalism across the region. And the current success of ISIS is a direct result of THAT. So do you count the Obama government as "American right"?

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IS jihadists urge killing of citizens from U.S.-led coalition

And Liberals want to give these fanatics a home, cash and a nice warm hug.

Hell, they don't want to deport them either, because if they did they would lose voters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2633723/We-deport-terrorists-like-Abu-Hamza-not-Lib-Dems-claims-David-Cameron.html

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/30/paddy-ashdown-kneejerk-reaction-jihadi-threat

Put a Liberal in charge of a nation or in a place of power and that nation will fall by it's own knife.

The West needs to look to Australia and follow it's examples. Radical Islamic fanatics who try and shove Sharia laws down your throat will never change and need to get the boot back to their hellholes.

If they were born in that nation they should then be kept on a very short leash to protect everyone else.

The moment one of these fanatics says "Sharia" or "Death to" toss their rears in a cell.

It's time for politicians to use the Liberal's laws against radical Muslims, time to make "Sharia and Muslim hate speeches" hate speech!

Turn the tables on Liberals and the terrorists they protect. Make it illegal for radical Muslims to say a bloody thing, time to muzzle them.

My guess is that if that were to come true the Liberals and their Terrorist Islamic allies would be left with nothing to say and then those terrorist will have to find another avenue to hiss through.

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No. What you are saying is if you want to make a fire smaller, pour gasoline on it.

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

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JoeBigs:

" Turn the tables on Liberals and the terrorists they protect. Make it illegal for radical Muslims to say a bloody thing, time to muzzle them. "

The problem is that they are quoting holy books, and the West clings to the concept that religion must be tolerated, so holy books are excempt from hate speech laws. Big mistake imho.

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