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Islamic State car bomb in Iraqi capital kills 115

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By MURTADA FARAJ and SINAN SALAHEDDIN

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Saddam Hussein kept the lid on this powder keg. dumbest thing we ever did

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The so called first world doesn't care and it is all to evident here that this thread will get very few response, I guess the lifes of citizens of some nations are more precious than those from our so called 3rd world countries. If this had happened in the U.S or an influential Western countries the responses here would run close to a hundred.

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@drlucifer

Partly true. Yes, people care less about people being blown up in places like this. It also has to be said that suicide bombers killing scores of people in this part of the world is a sad fact of life.

Damn the religious fanatics who do this and damn the people who let them loose.

I know Blair could slither under a door wearing a top hat but I hope he at least squirms this week.

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dumbest thing we ever did

Why...I wonder, do some still maintain a belief that the western worlds intervention in the Middle East was/is some kind of blunder or a mistake. It's almost as if you knowingly refuse face the truth. Two words..hegemony and petrodollar.

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I wish that everyone who thinks our intervention in Iraq was a mistake would be more vocal about our intervention in Libya and right now in Syria. Syria has a brutal dictator who can "keep a lid" on things. Rather than complain about the past, how about complaining about something we still have the power to prevent?

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"Saddam Hussein kept the lid on this powder keg. dumbest thing we ever did"

And how much longer do you think he could have kept the lid on this powder keg, being as how he had been in power for 25 years already? Oh, I forgot, he had two winsome sons who could take over for him, North Korean Kim Dynasty style!

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@fizzbit

One more word: Israel

( and to avoid any misunderstanding or knee-jerk slurs of "anti-semitism" from the pro-Israel lobby I do NOT mean "Jews")

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@drLucifer. You are right, If this had happened in Canada, The UK, France, USA,Japan a different response would have been seen, but first lets Identify a few things.

1) IN the above mentioned countries, If something of this sort had happened, Real Government action would take place, specialized, trained units would seek out, try to prevent further acts, and if such specialised units could not be found in said country, the other countries mentioned would lend these units out. 2) Western, European and some Asian relationships are actually held in great regard and nurtured, where as in Iraq I suspect even the most ardent of Catholics are inclined not to go give a hand for fear of the target assassinations by these so called holy warriors. 3) At some point The middleast and most of it's people will realize how they have lost the trust of the world when it comes to their claims of persecution, religion and tolerance for others. 4) Eventually people will stop caring altogether, which makes the victims this day truly lost. 5)I am sure we have all heard phrases like..."why are we helping there when we should be helping our own country?" At what point does holding out a hand in aid only to have it chopped off, become finally the last straw and foreign aid and response dissipates with it.

In short, once these countries can guarantee the safety of their own subjects and the safety of others, and when the people in those countries actually have a say in their destinies, that is the day the response will be the same.

Its a shame. So many in Iraq are good honest people, people that need help, being tainted by the rotten apples of a bad group.

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Agree, intervention I Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria and Libya has been an unmitigated disaster. Should have left the Middle East to run itself as it had been doing for the last decades. little or no bloodshed since Russia left Aghanistan and Saddam lost the Iran War. now look at it. Neverending story this one.

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And how much longer do you think he could have kept the lid on this powder keg, being as how he had been in power for 25 years already?

Probably another 25 years.

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Serrano JUL. 04, 2016 - 10:36AM JST "Saddam Hussein kept the lid on this powder keg. dumbest thing we ever did" And how much longer do you think he could have kept the lid on this powder keg, being as how he had been in power for 25 years already? Oh, I forgot, he had two winsome sons who could take over for him, North Korean Kim Dynasty style!

Yup, only it's your bodycount now. The Republican party and their winsome followers. And the three trillion dollars worth of debt. Yes, staggeringly, Saddam Hussein's brutal dictatorship was a better place for Iraqi's to live than the hell on earth the US Republican party keeps on giving them.

That was some "domino effect" you warmongers pulled off in the ME. You own it. Deal with it.

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"And how much longer do you think he could have kept the lid on this powder keg, being as how he had been in power for 25 years already?"

"Probably another 25 years."

I doubt it.

"Yes, staggeringly, Saddam Hussein's brutal dictatorship was a better place for Iraqi's to live than the hell on earth the US Republican party keeps on giving them"

Doesn't Islamic State get any of the blame?

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Saddam Hussein's brutal dictatorship was a better place for Iraqi's to live than the hell on earth the US Republican party keeps on giving them.

Again, why go back so far? The Democrats did the same in Libya, and are trying to do the same in Syria. Where is your outrage? Ironically, the one regional revolution that might have led to a better government (the one in Iran led my young non-radical people) went with zero help from the Democrats - no matter how much they begged for help. That's less help than IS gets.

If your principles were offended by Bush, then they should be doubly offended by the current administrations actions.

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Yes, staggeringly, Saddam Hussein's brutal dictatorship was a better place for Iraqi's to live than the hell on earth the US Republican party keeps on giving them

Doesn't Islamic State get any of the blame?

The Islamic state came around as a direct result of the power vacuum that came around after Saddam was deposed. They are the end result of the invasion of a sovereign nation by the United States. Sure, they get blame for their actions, but if the US hadn't destroyed the country in the first place, they wouldn't be there.

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@drlucifer. I think everyone cares but many of us, I include myself, sadly see this as Iraq and to be expected. In my lifetimegIraq has mostly been in conflict. It's only human nature to have greater empathy when a tragic event is closer to home: regionally, ethnically, religiously ... and so on. Doesn't make it right but that's the way it is

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SerranoJUL. 04, 2016 - 05:46PM JST Doesn't Islamic State get any of the blame?

Daesh was the phoenix that came from the ashes when you deposed Hussein.

You own that too. Deal with it.

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Personally I am a person who regards everyone as an equal.

I would have tried to save as many as possible due to my military, survival, Martaisl Arts training and more, would have given my life happily to save someone else.

I know there are no correct answers/reactions would be all my instincts.

Have been in similar situations and more than I care to recall.

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Daesh was the phoenix that came from the ashes when you deposed Hussein.

Why does Obama continue to hamper all efforts at wiping out Daesh, then? His stated position is that Assad must go before anything can be done. Without Assad, Daesh would rule the country.

We have a president who is indirectly aiding these monsters, and you instead choose to talk about Bush and decisions made over a decade ago. If Bush planted the seeds, Obama nurtured the plant. Blatant hypocrisy to deny that.

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Destroyed the country? The overwhelming destruction of the country stems from the sectarian violence between the Sunni and Shia. Sure one can make the argument had we not gone in, but then that would get into the weeds of retaliating against the horrific attacks of 9/11. Either way, way before that tragic day, radical Jihadism started at least in the States long before that circa 1993 when the first attack happened on the World Trade Center. So it's a complete ruse to blame the entire fallout of what happened in Iraq primarily on the US.

Why does Obama continue to hamper all efforts at wiping out Daesh, then? His stated position is that Assad must go before anything can be done. Without Assad, Daesh would rule the country.

Very true. Obama is in complete denial and makes it as if NOT confronting radical Jihadism will somehow make us safer. Everyone and I mean, everyone from the FBI, CIA, NSA and the Pentagon all from the upper echelon say that Obama's foreign strategy is completely wrong and all of his rants about us being safer and ISIS being on the run or marginalized is an absolute outright lie. You can never combat this if you refuse to acknowledge the threat for what it is and the people can see right through him. I think the Iraqi government so far are trying their best with the resources they have, but they still have a lot to do. It's sad and very tragic that so many innocent people had to lose their lives.

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Commanteer, bass - agreed. Do Obama and his allies in this really believe that toppling Assad will result in anything else than ISIS - or similar Islamic brutes - gaining control of Syria? Insanity. Or there is a more sinister agenda. Its one or the other, or both.

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