Israel and Hamas agree to extend truce for two more days, and to free more hostages and prisoners

hostages were handed over to the Red Cross in Gaza and were on their way to Israeli territory, marking the start of the fourth swap under the original truce.

Everything being swapped but not land, settler just doing their routines as before.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/11/26/israeli-settlers-steal-palestinian-farmers-land-in-occupied-west-bank

Good news. Hoping for a lasting end to the violence.

no civilized people take hostages.. only terrorists and countries like North Korea and Russia.

The Palestinians are an occupied and repressed people.

Occupiers doesn't care whether they take children or woman to prison. They can whatever they want, they are the occupiers.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/24/israel-releases-palestinian-women-and-children-prisoners-under-hamas-deal

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231127-palestinian-children-just-released-from-prison-claim-beatings-abuse-torture-and-starvation/

@Dango bong

Also no civilized people take land, only colonizer do that.

no civilized people take hostages.. only terrorists and countries like North Korea and Russia.

Exactly

The occupying Jew makes the NK look classy .

Good news. Hoping for a lasting end to the violence.

Same.

John-SanToday  07:57 am JST

The occupying Jew makes the NK look classy .

Classy. (note the sarcasm)

Comparing Israel to NK is probably the dumbest things I have ever read.

Only Israel, a country that has agreed to a ceasefire, can be called genocidal. Only Israel, a country full of people whose roots in the area go back thousands of years, can be called a coloniser. Only Israel, who left Gaza almost 20 years ago, took their people, abandoned their greenhouses (why did the Palestinians destroy a vital key infrastructure for growing food?) and even dug-up dead corpses, can be called an occupier. Must be something about them that is unique in the region…I can’t seem to put my finger on it.

Meanwhile, Hamas, a terrorist organization, whose number 1 stated goal in their charter is to wipe Israel off the map, who proudly dug up water pipes to build rockets, who took billions in aid from around the world and squandered it, who could have been the Singapore of the middle east, who are rabidly anti-semetic….I could go on. How come they are seen by many as some noble resistance? Resistance fighters don’t slaughter civilians.

Israel will resume its operations with “full force” as soon as the current deal expires if Hamas ...

If Uncle Sam says so. The White House has already whispered into Bibi's ear...The utter devastation of Gaza witnessed by hundreds of millions around the world and the 20,000+ anonymous dead and the unimaginable suffering of survivors is now getting Western politicians from the international scofflaw community desperately trying to the defend the indefensible into a lot of trouble with their voting community alarmed and emotionally agitated by the one-sided fight in Gaza and the truth that keeps trickling out about Israel's dark past and its illegal occupation of Palestinian lands. Expect the referee in Washington to stop the slaughter and seek a final solution.

Israel is losing international support including in the US over the number of Arab civilians killed, probably about 15,000.

could have been the Singapore of the middle east - Cat Stevens

Haha, yeah. With the boot of the Israeli blockade on its throat.

"In early 2006, Dov Weisglass, then a senior advisor to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, explained that Israeli policy was designed “to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger.” In 2012 it was revealed that in early 2008 Israeli authorities drew up a document calculating the minimum caloric intake necessary for Palestinians to avoid malnutrition so Israel could limit the amount of foodstuffs allowed into Gaza without causing outright starvation."

"Singapore of the Middle East" indeed.

The greenhouses were destroyed because they were a symbol of the occupation. Not the most rational or constructive thing to do but I think understandable. But Israel knew that would happen. From the very start of the conflict Israel's entire strategy has been to de-humanise and de-legitimise the Palestinians. During this entire "ceasefire" dozens of Palestinians have been killed in the occupied West Bank.

"no civilized people take hostages.. only terrorists and countries like North Korea and Russia." Really, take a look at the number of people in US jails for BS reasons. It was 'civilized' countries that kept slaves for many years and still find ways to circumvent laws to keep people hostage, usually for economic reasons.

Teenagers imprisoned by a military for throwing stones and even less-serious offenses?

Very convenient that you leave out the “firebomb” part. Also, in every single civilized country throwing rocks at people will get you arrested

over the number of Arab civilians killed, probably about 15,000.

This isn’t true. The Palestinian authority doesn’t report combatant deaths separately from civilian deaths but rather lumps them all together as “civilian death”. For all we know half of those could be Hamas fighters

Really, take a look at the number of people in US jails for BS reasons.

Like what?

It was 'civilized' countries that kept slaves for many years

You mean the same countries that abolished slavery? The British empire alone played a huge part in ending global slavery

Capuchin- the greenhouses were destroyed for two reasons. First they were built by Jews and therefore tainted. Second, the components could be used to make terror rockets that could be fired at innocent Israeli civilians.

The idea that Gaza has anything to do with settlers or colonization is laughable. There are no Jews in Gaza, havent been for 15 years. No settlements in Gaza either. The kibbutzim that were built on the border to Gaza, the ones that were devastated by Hamas cowards, were built by peace loving left-wing Israelis. They wanted to extend the proverbial olive branch to Gaza- gave Gazans jobs, took Gazan children to hospitals in Israel, etc. And look how they were repaid. Rape, torture, murder, mutilation. Even now, the vans carrying Israeli and international hostages are JEERED when they leave Gaza. So I am getting tired of hearing about the so-called 'innocent civilians' being targeted. Seems the majority of Gaza support Hamas and support the atrocities of October 7th. Very well. The bill is coming due.

Only Israel, a country that has agreed to a ceasefire, can be called genocidal.

Agreeing to a ceasefire doesnt in any way forgive Israel for the murder of between 10-20,000 innocent Palestinians, of whom a large percentage were children.

Only Israel, a country full of people whose roots in the area go back thousands of years, can be called a coloniser.

Israeli settlers literally force Palestinians to leave their homes and businesses under threat of violence, imprisonment, and death. Once upon a time Britain was ruled by the Romans, the Saxons, The Vikings, and the French, but you dont see Italians and Norwegians forcing their way in to British homes.

Only Israel, who left Gaza almost 20 years ago, took their people, abandoned their greenhouses (why did the Palestinians destroy a vital key infrastructure for growing food?) and even dug-up dead corpses, can be called an occupier.

Leaving an occupied territory doesn't mean that they didn't occupy it. Of course the Palestinians wanted to remove all memories of their oppressors.

Must be something about them that is unique in the region…I can’t seem to put my finger on it.

The far-right version of zionism is the problem.

Very convenient that you leave out the “firebomb” part. Also, in every single civilized country throwing rocks at people will get you arrested - JboneInTheZone

We're not talking about chucking rocks at random grannies in the street. We're talking about throwing rocks at a foreign military force that illegally occupies your country. I draw the line at killing civilians but scratching up the paintwork on a few American bought tanks I think is well within their rights.

Israel is the only country in the world that arrests children and tries them in military courts. Not something it does to Israeli children of course. That special treatment is reserved for the "human animal" Palestinians.

We're not talking about chucking rocks at random grannies in the street.

If you go to the nearest military base in your country and start throwing rocks at vehicles I guarantee you’ll get arrested so I’m not sure what your argument is

We're talking about throwing rocks at a foreign military force that illegally occupies your country

Illegal according to who? As far as I’m aware Israel left Gaza in 2005 so I think you’re wrong about them being “occupiers”

I draw the line at killing civilians but scratching up the paintwork on a few American bought tanks I think is well within their rights.

Are you insinuating that they only throw rocks at tanks and not people? You do realize rocks can be deadly, right? If I throw a rock at a cop in my country nobody would ever say I shouldn’t be arrested because he was in a police car

Israel is the only country in the world that arrests children and tries them in military courts. 

What should they do with them when caught?

Agreeing to a ceasefire doesnt in any way forgive Israel for the murder of between 10-20,000 innocent Palestinians, of whom a large percentage were children.

This isn’t true. The Palestinian authority doesn’t report combatant deaths separately from civilian deaths but rather lumps them all together as “civilian death”. For all we know half of those could be Hamas fighters. Also, you don’t know a large percentage are “children” as no stats have come out on how many actual children have been killed. The number you’re referring to references people under 18, not children

ChabbawangaToday  09:55 am JST

Agreeing to a ceasefire doesnt in any way forgive Israel for the murder of between 10-20,000 innocent Palestinians, of whom a large percentage were children.

Agreed. I seem to be forgetting who started this. Enlighten me please. There was a ceasefire as of October 6th. Who broke that? Do you want Israel just to take it?

Israeli settlers literally force Palestinians to leave their homes and businesses under threat of violence, imprisonment, and death. Once upon a time Britain was ruled by the Romans, the Saxons, The Vikings, and the French, but you dont see Italians and Norwegians forcing their way in to British homes.

In the West Bank, not Gaza. I've always said that Israel should have given back the West Bank back to Jordan. But they didn't. And they have a problem as a result. And I don't think Jordan would have wanted it back either. Israel tried giving Gaza back to Egypt. They didn't want it back. Fuuny how neither of these countries want anything to do with the Palestinians. And you seem to forget that despite being expelled in the hundreds of thousands, by multiple Arab countries during 1947-1948, the Jews aren't forcing their way back into their previous homes. Every single people in the history of the world could play this thought exercise.

Leaving an occupied territory doesn't mean that they didn't occupy it. Of course the Palestinians wanted to remove all memories of their oppressors.

Does the same apply to Jordan and Eqypt? I believe they were the ones occupying these places until 1967. Or perhaps does the same apply to the British Empire? Or perhaps the Ottoman Empire? Funny how almost all colonised nations leave the infrastructure that was built by the previous occupier. Did India destroy all their railroads? Did Taiwan destroy all of the infrastructure left by the Japanese?

The far-right version of zionism is the problem.

To say this is to be willfully ignorant of the rampant anti-jewish sentiment that is prevalent in the Middle East.

The far-right version of zionism is the problem.

It’s fundamentally all far-right and a large chunk of it worldwide is Christians, not Jews.

Jews do not recognize Jesus Christ as the son of God, just about the central tenet of Christianity, but that doesn't seem to bother Christian Zionists. Most are Protestants/Evangelicals, and the Catholic Church is far less cool on Israel, as seen from the Pope's recent comments.

Check this out as an eyeopener into what some people believe and want to happen.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/truth-many-evangelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481

It takes a very flexible 'mind' to think that far-right neo nazis and Jews could be on the same side of anything. In the US at least, Jewish voters trend centre to left and are a core component of the Democratic Party's voter base. Which is causing trouble now- the Democrats are caught between appeasing two fundamentally opposed wings of their party.

As for the hostages, one problem is that Hamas does not control all of them. Many were kidnapped by Islamic Jihad in Palestine, an even more radical group than Hamas, plus other small terror organizations.

It will be a happy day for all Palestinians when they can be freed from the yoke of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority both. Also when they can be de-programmed from the filthy and vile propaganda they have been fed for the past several decades. Then they can begin to enjoy the fruits of freedom.

Cat: Who denies having nuclear arsenal not the NK. One tells the world facts about their nuclear program the other lies. Both are bottom feeders. just that one is worst then the other. The occupiers claim Hamas attack citizens and homestead (Kibbutz ). Both are lies. Every Jew from the late 70,s have to do 1-3 years do military training in IDF warfare ( And badly train as 07/10 has show their dismal defence ) Every Homestead ( Kibbutz ) within 50 km is a armed military compound with manned trained reservist. So atacking citizen is a lie. Attacking defenceless homestead is more lies. Everyone at the rave where reservist not citizen, the only citizen where the foreigners. They state that they have the right to defend itself when they are the occupiers ???? that make no sense and is the most stupid reason to bomb untrained and unarmed true civilians. Threatening to use nuclear weapows as well. The last time I check NK communication they were not threatening nuclear attacks but tells the world of the plans about a spy satellite. Where the Colonial powers in the Occupied Terrories of Palestine secretly spy on and cyber attack their allies. The last I check NK has no allies. So my statement is correct yours in fill with proven lies.

The occupiers claim Hamas attack citizens and homestead (Kibbutz ). Both are lies. Every Jew from the late 70,s have to do 1-3 years do military training in IDF warfare ( And badly train as 07/10 has show their dismal defence ) Every Homestead ( Kibbutz ) within 50 km is a armed military compound with manned trained reservist. So atacking citizen is a lie. Attacking defenceless homestead is more lies. Everyone at the rave where reservist not citizen, the only citizen where the foreigners.

This is simply not true. Reservists have civilian status, except when they are performing military duties. Reserve enlisted personnel have civilian status, except for military training in peacetime and wartime mobilization.

I seem to be forgetting who started this. Enlighten me please.

The formation of the State of Israel in the Middle East

There was a ceasefire as of October 6th. Who broke that?

A ceasefire that allowed one side to kill civilians in Gaza and the West Bank indiscriminately.

Do you want Israel just to take it?

I want Israel to follow international laws.

Israel tried giving Gaza back to Egypt

Egypt didnt want to get further involved in the conflict. Gazan extremists will always remain hostile towards Israel, and any violence coming from Egypt-Gaza could result in Israel bringing the war into Sinai and Egypt.

Does the same apply to Jordan and Eqypt?

Palestinians in the West Bank werent oppressed by Jordan, they all the same rights as Jordanians.

Funny how almost all colonised nations leave the infrastructure that was built by the previous occupier.

There was reported looting after the settlers left Gaza, but the greenhouses werent all destroyed as some would have you believe. Many were put to use after that. There were also reports that the Israeli settlers were the ones who damaged the greenhouses to prevent the Gazans being able to make use of them.

To say this is to be willfully ignorant of the rampant anti-jewish sentiment that is prevalent in the Middle East.

Judaism is not a problem, Zionism is a problem. They are not the same thing.

no civilized people take hostages.. only terrorists and countries like North Korea and Russia.

NK don't take hostages, those are abductions. Unfortunately, there are not many civilized people on this planet...