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To hell with proportionality, eh.

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24-1 injured this time, 254-12 dead this year in 11 days. That’s what you get when one side plays rock scissors paper and other has one of the highest military budgets per GDP in the world.

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the strange thing is that this happen on a daily basis but no one report it or care about it

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Sickening and uncalled for. Israel takes ANY oportunity to bomb the Gaza ghetto. Imprison a people behind walls you control and you can expect unrest. Israel brings it upon themselves to give the excuse for destroying Gaza infrastructure that the west rebuilds with donations. US donations to the Israeli military cost US citizens. Israeli bombings of Palestinians cost the American citizens and world citizens through aid to support Palestinians. The US and other supporters of Israel are saps with seemingly deep pockets.

Rather than fix the issue through pressure on Israel to go along with a two state solution based on 1967 borders and equality between both states, just keep throwing more and more money at this endless problem. Time to make this cost Israel dearly through economic means.

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fighter planes hit “four weapons and storage manufacturing sites”

We only have the Israeli version of events which in the past, have not always been completely honest or accurate.

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No wonder all the nations in that region dont like Israel.

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So what else is new. The mainstream media ignore Hamas terrorism, but spring into action the moment Israel responds to it.

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It’s very typical. While the world looks in horror at Afghanistan, the Israelis take advantage.

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Simple question- why don't the people in Gaza just go to Egypt if Gaza is so terrible? I mean, they share a border and a religion, it seems like a perfect solution.

Plus, this incident was not started by Israel. Violent protesters injured a policeman, throwing rocks and explosive devices. What happened next is on THEM, not on Israel. If you kick a tiger in the ass, you better have a good plan for dealing with its teeth.

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So what else is new. The mainstream media ignore Hamas terrorism

I read about it in the mainstream media.

Who is telling you this?

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WilliB....

So what else is new. The mainstream media ignore Hamas terrorism, but spring into action the moment Israel responds to it

No, the mainstream media report the exact Opposite! Especially in the US.

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The first reason why they don’t go to Egypt is that they have a country, or maybe if China occupied Japan you would suggest that Japanese go to Korea because they share some culture; the second is in the article if you care to read, the only way to Egypt that is also used for food, medicines and basically anything else (what Israel calls terrorist weapons) is regularly closed down by the Israeli and Egyptian army, and that’s what initiated these protests. Palestine is a not only a sad zoo managed by the Israeli army, but a zoo in which Israeli colons occupy land and cities. I don’t believe a single person supporting Israel occupation has spent even a minute in Palestine or Israel itself.

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If someone constantly sent low level rockets, has balloons and other weapons over the fence to my country I would teach them a lesson over and over again until they learn to be civilized with all the neighbors.

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If ‘your country’ was actually their country and you are constantly moving forward the fence, building colonies and bringing the army in the middle of another country to ‘protect’ the illegal colonies and then annex those colonies and all sources of water, then shooting and killing over 20 times more people (mostly civilians and under 14 years old fyi) than the neighbor ever could, if they called the police and the police said actually they are right and 200 countries agree except Israel, the USA and Vanuatu and that allows you to continue worst than ever unpunished, would you ever have the doubt that you are the bad guy in the story?

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louis; you are right, the Palestinians DO, or at least did, have a country to go back to. It is called Jordan. When the colonial mandate of Transjordan was divided into Jewish and Arab sections, Jordan was set aside for them as their homeland. Sadly, the Palestinians didn't go. They largely refused to accept the division. Instead, they decided to just leave Israel temporarily, until the Arab League had exterminated the Jews. Then, they could have ALL the land for themselves.

It was a poor judgement. The rest, as they say, is history.

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Shabbat Louise. Learn history. Start by reading Attila’s post above.

History is easy to read but difficult to comprehend when one’s mind is filled with racial hatred and prejudice.

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Shalom…auto spell put Shabbat.

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Hamas is a resistance to an occupations and a blockade that is squeezing the life line of Gaza , this is NOT a war, it is a resistance to an occupation. Gazans have the right to Resist and even fight any occupying force. It is NOT a matter of choice, it is the duty of all freedom loving people.

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Shalom Shinkansen, but seriously, if your historian of reference is Bernard Lewis and you missed the following 40 years of regional studies then I have nothing to say. There is no race but the human, too easy to play that card when reality is extremely different, and 20 years of work with both Israeli and Palestinian taught me more on the situation than a research Masters in Development and a PhD in International Studies (where history is not read on the back of the corn flakes packs), which I also have.

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Despite all of the rhetoric to the contrary they need Hamas in place, because without them and all of the havoc that they cause Israel might be forced back into negotiating about the land seizures, enclaves on occupied land and hideous giant concrete walls that they've referred to as fences that carve swathes across land belonging to other's. Or even worse, being pressured into adherence to the UN resolutions ordering Palestinian territories restored to their rightful owners. I've made the observation and think that it's really odd that the average Jewish voter in the US is more inclined to be a left leaning liberal Democratic party supporter while also being an avid Israeli state supporter. But in Israel because of all of this artificially manufactured conflict is overwhelmingly a hardline right wing political party supporter - which is a bizarre dichotomy of juxtapositional viewpoints. In the real world, if the leadership of Hamas are actually terrorist's they should have long ago been arrested, tried and jailed. One cannot argue that the ability or will isn't available to do it, so the only reason for this not happening is that they serve a mutually beneficial purpose that lends itself to a broader Geo Political agenda.

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in response to a violent demonstration on the perimeter fence that left an Israeli police officer critically injured, the army said.

Well, you do what you have to do.

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If someone constantly sent low level rockets, has balloons and other weapons over the fence to my country I would teach them a lesson over and over again until they learn to be civilized with all the neighbors.

If some country locked me, my family and my people behind walls they control, not letting me out and not letting me buy what I want or need, and did it for decades all the while stealing more of my lands then I would protest, throw rocks and any missile I could get at them for their cruelty and crimes against my people. Freedom is what is worth fighting for and while kept a prisoner I would fight as hard as I could against such constant never ending provocations. Israel is a criminal state for its continuing crimes against Palestinians and it sickens me that my country and it's allies seem to support Israeli crimes. Disgusting.

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Peter: they aren't the Palestinians' lands. They are Israel's. Wars have consequences. The Palestinians chose to leave Judea in anticipation of returning in triumph. They tied their fate to that of the Arab League. Once the first Arab/Israeli war was lost, they were lost too. Even their fellow Arabs rejected them.

Not to mention, Gaza is not occupied. For an area that is supposedly under such a burden, it sure seems to grow quickly! Growing at 3% a year for the past half century. One of the highest growth rates in the world in fact.

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I promise if anyone - just one is enough - of those defending Israel occupation and behavior can honestly write here that they have actually been (even for 10 minutes) not in Gaza, but at least any of the cities and villages in the West Bank (except obviously the colonies), and still sincerely think it’s okay, I will stop forever commenting on the issue.

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Attilathehungry: The West bank and Gaza are Palestinian lands. Israel continues to steal West Bank lands from their rightful owners. Israel has turned Gaza into a ghetto with the right to enter or leave at Israels discretion. Understand the world is getting sick of Israel's continuing crimes and lies.

Israel made pledges and broke them. Israel has all the advantages and it has a benefactor that has the number one economy and military and also has it's protection via veto in the security council of the UN. Palestinians have very little and no benefactor at all. Israel cry's out at every struggle of the Palestinians to end the occupation of its lands and treatment that would be a declaration of war to any other people in the world.

Israel is the target of freedom fighters it calls terrorists. I call Israel the terrorists for what they do daily to basically a helpless people.

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Sorry I forgot, if you were in the West Bank as a soldier in the Israeli army it doesn’t count either.

Masters is from La Sorbonne Institute for Economic and Social Development in Paris, PhD from Ryukoku University in Kyoto and I also taught at the University of Illinois. But again, those are not the most important things.

If you are convinced that 168-174 countries at the UN General Assembly are constantly wrong since 1967 in voting resolution after resolution to end Israel abuses, and the only ones right are the seven (7) countries that always vote together on the issue, meaning the US; Canada; Israel; Marshall Islands; Micronesia; Nauru; and Palau, then there’s not much to argue. But to me, it sounds like the guy driving on the highway who hears the news on the radio “a mad man is driving against the traffic on the highway “ and while trying to avoid the cars in front of him thinks loud “one crazy guy?! There’s hundreds!!”

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Louis, in other words you have been steeping in leftist ideology for more than a decade. I get it. As for a benefactor, the Palestinians have a very good one- the UN. They get more ODA than almost any other area- something like USD 500 per person per year.

The UNRWA also coughs up more than a billion dollars per year. They are the only entity to get their own UN agency. Also, unlike other relief agencies for refugees, the UNRWA does NOT promote resettlement in neighboring countries, or resettlement at all. Instead, they just reproduce more refugees every generation. It is a self perpetuating money sinkhole.

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La Sorbonne development center is a colonialist institution, Ryukoku a buddhist university, Uni of Illinois just a public university (but I guess the word ‘public’ is indeed already leftist in the USA) .

Aside from the fact that over 3 of the 5 million recognized Palestinian refugees actually live outside Gaza and the West Bank or Israel (Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and dozens other countries), the main reason why UNRWA doesn’t promote resettlement is because that’s their f.*^ing home.

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The people of Israel will continue to reap what they sowed,until the establishment of a free Palestine state

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These are Israeli snipers shooting at kids...

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Refugees, by definition, don't get settled 'at home'. That is what makes them refugees. Instead, they go to host countries where they settle and generally make new lives for themselves. This is what happened to every other displaced population after WW2. The Palestinians appear to be the only permanent refugee group, growing in population as the generations pass. Now they number seven times as many as originally in 1948. Why this is permitted and condoned, I have no idea. Perhaps they need some incentive to move on with their lives and stop marinading in their self inflicted grievances.

Why don't OTHER Arabic/ Muslim nations step up to the plate and help resettle the Palestinians? They have had since 1949 to do so, but for some reason have not. There is plenty of space in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Libya, etc. Much more than in Israel, that's for sure.

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Attilathehungry

Why don't OTHER Arabic/ Muslim nations step up to the plate and help resettle the Palestinians?

Because that would defeat the purpose. The continuously growing number of "refugees" (refugees from birth, mind you, a completely unique concept), is part of the demographic war against Israel. PLO leaders have openly admitted this.

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wtfjapan

These are Israeli snipers shooting at kids...

No, they are not. If "Israeli snipers" were "shooting at kids", there would be no kids left. Actually, the IDF reaction to Hamas aggression has consistently been extremely restrained.

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the Palestinians DO, or at least did, have a country to go back to. It is called Jordan. 

It's not so good when others tell you what your country is.

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One Kid took out the regime stooge soldier through the wall, it was awesome, like "finish him!", "pow", "yeah!".

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The demonstration grew violent after dozens of people approached the fortified border fence and threw rocks and explosives toward Israeli soldiers from behind a black smoke screen billowing from burning tires.

Yet the headline reads, "Israel atrikes...."

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“Now they [Palestinian refugees] number seven times as many as originally in 1948”

Israel population grew x 10 times since 1948. On that land.

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Imagine if the Taliban were doing this, rather than the Israeliban.

A few realities, by law, an occupied people are never the attacker when they violently resist, just like someone being raped is never the attacker when they violently resist. Well, except for in the mind of their attackers and those who share their attackers mindset.

For decades, the news described Nelson Mandela as a terrorist who attacked the White State in South Africa, and the brutality with which that regime stayed in power as 'defending itself'. Then things outside South Africa changed, and the ACCURATE description of the majority ethnic group responding to the violent oppression of a minority became the norm.

And during the preliminary hearings on jurisdiction by the ICC, every one of the lies that the Israeli regime and its supporters rely on to pretend that the Israeli regime isn't committing the Crime Against Humanity detailed in the ICSPCA was effectively laughed out of court.

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