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Hamas accepts Gaza cease-fire; Israel says it will continue talks but launches strikes in Rafah

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By SAM MEDNICK, JOSEF FEDERMAN and BASSEM MROUE

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Netanyahu does not want a ceasefire.

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Sahar Abu Nahel, who fled to Rafah with 20 family members, including her children and grandchildren, wiped tears from her cheeks, despairing at a new move.

Just remember occupier was told to those refugee to go to Rafah only for being annihilated, baby, woman and children.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-asks-residents-of-khan-yunis-to-move-to-rafah-as-gaza-pause-ends/3070063

Occupier recently use holocausts to boost moral for genocide? Instead learning for that tragedy not to ever happen again? 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/netanyahu-holocaust-ceremony-brush-off-international-pressure-gaza-109941292

Biggest donor for occupier which is US, gives billions to occupier, when domestic social security is failing. That's really know how to make right priority.

https://www.businessinsider.com/when-will-social-security-benefits-run-out-retirement-crisis-boomers-2024-5

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Netanyahu does not want a ceasefire.

And why would he? Its not peace, just a break for Hamas to reorganize. Stupid, interfering USA.

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Stop the genocide!!..

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U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Türk on Monday called the evacuation order “inhumane.”

I agree.

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I had Israel down as a regular member of the intl community.

Hope they can get out of the hole that their leaders have dug.

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This is not a war, if this is NOT a genocide then I don't know what a Genocide is.

Netanyahu and his war mongers are purposely killing Palestinian women, children, infants, elderly, UN staff, Aid workers, animals, trees, and anything that happens to be in the area in the name of self defense.

The IGF is targeting civilians in order to apply pressure on Hamas. This is a war crime plain and simple, I pray that when this war is over these war mongers on Both Sides will be prosecuted and punished for failing to protect these innocent people.

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Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have repeatedly rejected that trade-off, vowing to keep up their campaign until Hamas is destroyed after its Oct. 7 attack on Israel that triggered the war.

These war criminals do not want peace, they want to destroy the remaining 20% of buildings in Gaza and drive the Palestinians into Egypt!

The fact that all govts aren't calling Israel's action genocide and threatening them with sanctions just shows how hypocritical and broken the system is!

Sanction Israel now and send the leaders to the Hague!

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Impossible to imagine the Israelis letting Hamas off the hook, especially since Hamas has run out of places to hide.

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Hamas accepts Gaza cease-fire; Israel says it will continue talks but launches strikes in Rafah

Why negotiate with a terrorist group whose founding charter espouses committing genocide against the Jewish people?

Israel has the right under international law to defend itself, and it has been doing so in compliance of applicable law.

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President Joe Biden spoke with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and reiterated U.S. concerns about an invasion of Rafah, 

Reiterating concerns " is not worth much now is it, how about Joe's admin stops supplying the weapons that enable the Gaza genocide?

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Impossible to imagine the Israelis letting Hamas off the hook, especially since Hamas has run out of places to hide.

Hamas leaders have been hiding in Qatar this whole time.

It isnt like Israel is shy when it comes to military strikes on foreign turf. Why didnt they just send a few missiles to take out Haniyeh in Qatar?...

Because this isnt about Hamas, this is about the complete ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

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Strategic move by Hamas leaders that will see Israel wrongfooted.

Israel wont accept, that causes problems for Egypt ,Biden and everybody else...not to even mention the long suffering Palestinian people.

And like all wars, the world is left wondering "what was the benefit to any side "

A pox on both sides.

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I wonder how many people have now realized that the 7-month Israeli genocidal response to the retaliatory military operation of October 7 against the IOF hiding among their human shields, just like the US disproportionate reaction to 9/11 with its unjustified attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq did, will have far more serious unintended consequences for Israel's future and the political fortunes of those who have aided and abetted the sadistic destruction of Gaza than was anticipated by political and military decision-makers blinded by the arrogance of power?

I had Israel down as a regular member of the intl community.

Hope they can get out of the hole that their leaders have dug.

More like a clubbable rogue state among neo-colonial powers and it is to be hoped a big hole can be dug for all the war criminal "leaders" tried and found guilty by the ICC.

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@wallace

Hamas neither.

No more that they want any help for Gaza people :

Hamas fired rockets at Israeli troops positioned on the border with Gaza near Israel’s main crossing for delivering humanitarian aid

@WoodyLee

It is not a genocide. By claiming it is you are insulting all people which were victim of it.

Not all crime war (/or terro by autority) are genocide.

@muzukashi

You should consider reviewing your history or dictionnary (or booth). Gaza was given independance. Israel totally withdrawed from it 17 years ago. The, de facto, country was put on blocade (like Cuba) by all its neighbor. During that period the government did nothing to improve relationship with neighbor, worst kept attacking one of them (and then claim victimhood), the government did nothing to improve the situation of its citizen (I hope they saw them as citizen but the last one with them purposely attacking the crossing for humanitarian help so that it will be closed kind of prove otherwise), ... it can be even said that the government endanger greatly its citizen as it has discouraged them to move before the start of the ground operation of the war they launched, they refuse getting out of area with heavy population to protect it, they refuse to aknowledge them as civilian and kept going that there are no civilian in Gaza, ...

@Chabbawanga

Are you discovering than far right like far right ?

The situation is utter s. and was for decade if not centuries. None of us can be sure of a good solution partly because we have a bunch of far right on both side which pretty fine with erasing the other side one way or another. It would be good if people tryed to be more pondered, factuel, ... and article stopped using clickbait article : nobody has actually any idea about the contact of the ceasefire Hamas claim to have signed and, I think we need a better explanation of how the negociation goes on, as its seems that actually neither party attending it can make a decision (on the Hamas side, the potential cliff between the armed branch and the political one, is a concern ; on Israel side, Netayahu is ... well Israeli have several time protested about him but since Hamas&friends enjoy attacking Israel at these time, that do not help)

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Netanyahu does not want a ceasefire.

Maybe he wants the hostage free, that make sense!

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This is not a war, if this is NOT a genocide then I don't know what a Genocide is.

Can you name another genocide where the genocidal party has killed so few people in 7 months? Israel must be horrible at genocide if that’s the case

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These war criminals do not want peace, they want to destroy the remaining 20% of buildings in Gaza and drive the Palestinians into Egypt!

Ive asked multiple times so I doubt you’ll answer, but I’d really like to see a source on this “80% of buildings in Gaza have been destroyed” claim

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Can you name another genocide where the genocidal party has killed so few people in 7 months?

Rohingya genocide in Myanmar

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Rohingya genocide in Myanmar

Actually when you factor in the number of estimated Hamas militants killed it’s less

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Actually when you factor in the number of estimated Hamas militants killed it’s less

Sure, keep moving the goalposts and tell me when youre done.

The genocide in Myanmar has been ongoing for 8 years btw.

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Sure, keep moving the goalposts and tell me when youre done.

Sorry that facts are getting in the way of your narrative

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The genocide in Myanmar has been ongoing for 8 years btw.

Right, and the Israel Palestine conflict just started

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Readers, Myanmar is not relevant to this discussion.

Genocide has been alleged in ICJ and that Court did not dismiss the application out of hand....in fact it's preliminary finding was that a "plausible case of genocide "had been made.

To say that "Gaza was given autonomy " is absolute rubbish. The Israeli blockade was total and overarching.

The Israeli's killed 9 innocent people, in international waters {!}, on a ship bringing aid from Turkey.

Shameless act.

Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust, although this group has claimed it as their own and used this to create an eternal victimhood and thus mask many Israeli atrocities on unarmed people.

Which reminds me of the targeting of journalists, including sniper shootings of female journos and raining death by bomb and drone on THE FAMILIES [!} of other journos....mainly al Jazeera.

You cowards !!!

Scared of bad news being reported and call yourself a democracy.

Finally, PM Netanyahu gives a speech at the Holocaust Memorial Centre , and what does he do ?

Speaks about maintaining a disproportionate war that has killed more non combatants, than any war in recent times. Killed tens of thousands of women and children and left tens of thousands more with amputated limbs and life time disabilities.

Disgraceful speech at a "holy " place where certainly the message should be peace.

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Did the Rohingya, in one day, massacre more than 1000 people, including babies and children, by blowing up children in front of their parents, and vice versa, to provoke the Myanmar government and military to take self-defense measures?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-evidence-reveals-rohingya-armed-group-massacred-scores-in-rakhine-state/

This doesnt justify the genocide of the innocent Rohingya people.

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Yes...the cautious words by an ICJ Judge completely exonerated Israel

Is that why the matter is ongoing ?

So "some of the acts...appear to be capable...of falling within in the Convention "

Yep...complete exoneration

Clutching at straws will lead to a world wide straw shortage.

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Uighur genocide in China.

It’s interesting that the muslim world is silent on the Uighur situation.

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Yes...the cautious words by an ICJ Judge completely exonerated Israel

Is that why the matter is ongoing ?

So ""

Yep...complete exoneration 

Clutching at straws will lead to a world wide straw shortage.

You can cope and try to make up excuses all you want but your characterization of the ICJ decision is dead wrong.

some of the acts...appear to be capable...of falling within in the Convention

Why are you leaving out the whole quote? It’s because it proves your argument wrong. The whole quote is ““at least some of the acts and omissions alleged by South Africa to have been committed by Israel in Gaza appear to be capable of falling within the provisions of the (Genocide) Convention.”

The key word here is alleged. The ICJ isn’t saying whether or not there’s any truth to what South Africa is accusing, they’re simply saying that if those allegations were true they would qualify.

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zibala

Why negotiate with a terrorist group whose founding charter espouses committing genocide against the Jewish people?

The Hamas changed their charter in 2017.

"The new charter holds that armed resistance against an occupying power is justified under international law. While the 1988 Hamas Charter had been widely criticized for its antisemitism, the 2017 document stated that Hamas' fight was not with Jews as such because of their religion but with the Zionist project."

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The Hamas changed their charter in 2017.

No they didn’t. The original 1988 charter is still the founding charter with the 2017 document being an addition. The 2017 document doesn’t invalidate the 1988 charter in any way

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Bone...the word "alleged " is common parlance in law.

The applicant makes an "allegation " and the Court "deliberates "

The Judge is here saying what a Magistrate would say before committing a matter to a Superior Court...."there is PRIMA FACIE evidence ....here, of genocide.

Get some legal training and release the straws !

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May 1, 2017 — Hamas, the militant Islamist group, on Monday dropped a call for Israel's destruction and endorsed the creation of a Palestinian state.

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Money rules the world, not religion.

Really? Although that admittedly has been valid for a very long time, it is quickly changing. Birth quotes and number of citizens in the younger generations are or soon will be ruling the world. What's all your big money worth when entangled by a group of 5, 50 or 500 youngsters, knife wielding or just only disliking your religion? Just nothing anymore, maybe with much luck you can buy 15 seconds if you throw all your money into their hands.

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Bone...the word "alleged " is common parlance in law.

The applicant makes an "allegation " and the Court "deliberates "

The Judge is here saying what a Magistrate would say before committing a matter to a Superior Court...."there is PRIMA FACIE evidence ....here, of genocide.

That is not what the court is saying at all, you are 100% wrong. I don’t know how you can continue being so wrong on this issue when you can literally go read what the ICJ ruled online right now. They are not saying at all that there is “prima facie” of a genocide at all. They are saying that South Africa’s allegations are consistent with crimes that would fall under genocide. They didn’t make any statement regarding whether or not Israel’s actions match what South Africa is claiming

You know what, since you’re so confident please link me a statement from the ICJ stating “there is PRIMA FACIE evidence ....here, of genocide.”

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May 1, 2017 — Hamas, the militant Islamist group, on Monday dropped a call for Israel's destruction and endorsed the creation of a Palestinian state.

Source on that? “In 2017, Hamas unveiled a revised charter, without explicitly revoking the 1988 charter.[2][3]”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter#:~:text=In%202017%2C%20Hamas%20unveiled%20a,the%20face%20of%20the%20oppressors.%22

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What's all your big money worth when entangled by a group of 5, 50 or 500 youngsters, knife wielding or just only disliking your religion?

The type of crime you are describing is largely the result of economic inequality, not religion.

That is besides the point though. What I meant by 'money rules the world' is that politicians do what is in their own best interest, occasionally the best interest of their nation, but rarely in the interest of a second nation regardless of whether they share a religion.

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JboneInTheZone

Today 11:26 am JST

May 1, 2017 — Hamas, the militant Islamist group, on Monday dropped a call for Israel's destruction and endorsed the creation of a Palestinian state.

> Source on that? “In 2017, Hamas unveiled a revised charter, without explicitly revoking the 1988 charter.

Try not using wiki Soo much.

Remember Wikipedia is edited by the public this includes people with bias and political interests.

But the following says it all and the false addition of the first line is clearly politically by one of the public Editors.

Hamas fell short of repudiating the original, 1988 charter, saying it was a document of its time and the new document represented Hamas's position for now.

clearly the "fell short...." Is an addition by a bias contributor.

"It was a document of its time the new document represented Hamas's position for now."

Seems someone it deliberately try to downplay the "Hamas's position for now."!

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The narrative by Israel is it is the victim, it us the one under attack, etc..

But the facts and numbers don't add up!

By Israel's own admission between 2009 and before October 7th over 6,000 Palestinians were killed by police and IDF and 1,000 by settlers!

And Israel's own number puts the number of Israelis killed in that same period at under 400 (this includes non political but purely criminal like robbery etc..).

These numbers if those killed by Israel don't include the killing during that same period in UNRWA schools and hospitals in Lebanon and Syria that the IDF bombed.

Israel want its remaining 125 hostages, well the Palestinians want tye 6,000 Israel has "detained" long before the October 7th attack and by "detained" well according to amnesty international and the UN it really means abducted from schools homes and work in Gaza, east Jerusalem, the west bank and held without charges or trial for months and years and it includes lawyers that dare try and find out what is happening to the people.

A lawyer not an Israeli citizen risks becoming a *detained " person when investigating the detention of Palestinians.

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There is no war. War happens between armies. This is a slaughter, the worst genocide in human history.

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Here I good chance to point out the flaws in using Wikipedia.

Hamas fell short of repudiating the original, 1988 charter, saying it was a document of its time and the new document represented Hamas's position for now.

Where did the person editing get this information or this quote?

Well looking back on the edit history it comes from Jerome Slater Professor Emeritus, State University of New York at Buffalo.

What was left out was a long long explanation that there was no need for Hamas to explicitly say the 1988 statement was null and void because they now say the 2017 is their official position.

The professor goes on to point out this is another example of certain people trying to again sabotage any solution.

Professor Slater has been a long critic of the policies by Israel and the treatment of Palestinians so it is ashame his quote is being used out of context by those trying to cause trouble!

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wallace

Netanyahu does not want a ceasefire.

I am no friend of Bibi or his party, but why should he accept a "ceasefire"? Ceasefire simply means victory for Hamas.

Fact is, Hamas can end this war at any time by surrendering and releasing the hostages. Why is nobody asking them to do that?

Fwiw, WW2 did not end once enough Germans were killed --- it ended when Germany surrendered.

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Bone the phrase "prima facie " is actually used by the Court in the matter we debate.

I know...I just read it.

As for "selective quoting ", your quote avoided the next sentence in which this phrase was used.

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zibala

The Hamas changed their charter in 2017.

So what wallace? Read again what I wrote. The founding charter was never revoked. Did you know that z?

Wrong once again as posted by Antiquesaving @12:13

What is the z for?

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