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© Thomson Reuters 2024.Israeli forces kill dozens of Palestinians in Gaza strikes; battle Hamas in Rafah
By Nidal al-Mughrabi CAIRO©2025 GPlusMedia Inc.
38 Comments
proxy
When will Palestinians rise up against their terrorist masters, Hamas?
Yrral
When will the world rise up Israel for terrorizing the people of Palestine
sakurasuki
EU makes occupier angry, should the world that really angry because they the one who slaughter 35 thousands?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/23/why-is-israel-angry-that-some-eu-countries-recognised-palestine
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While occupier ally, like to make occupier happy.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/5/22/harvard-corporation-overrides-faculty-vote-disciplined-seniors/
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And still talking about "antisemitism" just to stop anti-genocide protest for continuing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/23/us/house-hearing-republicans-campus-antisemitism.html
nik
who helps Israel with weapons? America's answer. Who are America's allies? The answer is Western countries. So who supports the war? The answer is obvious - west
JboneInTheZone
You do realize that the 35,000 number includes Hamas terrorists as well, right? The Hamas controlled Ministry of Health doesn’t distinguish between combatants and civilians
Those students are facing disciplinary charges for their actions. Do you think you should be able to break school rules without punishment?
sakurasuki
@JboneInTheZone
That also includes Children, Women and elder.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240419-unicef-over-13800-palestinian-children-killed-in-gaza-since-october/
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University is more than a school, where student being punish because disobedience.
From protest against black segregation to Vietnam war is all being imitated by campus movement.
JboneInTheZone
Yes, that’s exactly what I said…
If they broke the law they should be punished by the justice system. If they broke school rules they should be punished by the school. Do you disagree?
GuruMick
CIA assessment and USA military analyst believe Hamas forces are not defeated, recruitment is increasing and 65% of the tunnel systems remain in place.
And yes to J Bone....students should not be naughty....even when their country facilitates a genocide.
Remember, all dead Palestinians are Hamas.
JboneInTheZone
This sounds like an interesting read. Can you post the source?
Protesting should be encouraged and is the right of all Americans which I fully support. Breaking the law should be punished
wallace
Little children in Gaza go to bed hungry, unsure if they will survive the night.
Tamarama
Genocidal Israel.
Kill. Kill. Kill.
GuruMick
J Bone....
Israel National Times : Politico : Only one third of Hamas terrorists eliminated.
Type that into google search.
I'm an old geeza and I can formulate questions for google....try it yourself in future.
JboneInTheZone
Huh weird. Maybe my comment didn’t go through. I asked for a source on all of your comment including the recruitment claim going up. I don’t seem to see that in the article you posted. I’m sure you just forgot to post it. I’ll let you try again no worries
Negative Nancy
Another day, another report of Israel committing indefensible war crimes. The Western governments that are continuing to support Israel have blood on their hands.
Clayton K. Char
"Suze van Meegan, the Norwegian Refugee Council's Emergency Response Leader in Gaza, said many civilians were still stuck."
The civilians are not stuck, they are being held against their will by Hamas to use as human shields.
Zaphod
Ramsey's Kitchen
It is a war, not a genocide. And Hamas can end the war any time by surrendering and releasing the hostages.
And sadly, killing civilians is unavoidable if your opponent uses them as shields.
To ask the IDF now to surrender and hand victory to Hamas at the moment when they are closing in on the cornered Hamas leaders is absurd.
Antiquesaving
But we know this to not be true by Israel's own admission!
Israel has reported that Hamas has regrouped in the North and Israel is again fighting them in northern Gaza!
So this "IDF has killed 14,000 Hamas and not 35,000 civilians rings hollow if Hamas was able to regroup in the North!
Again seems the western news has a very bias slant and amnesia when reporting everything Israel says as the truth!
WoodyLee
And the saddest part about this is the so called the free world is either unable to stop it !!? and or complacent !!? or flat out supporting it.
By design conflicting messages, confusing statements, Lies, empty promises, and whatever it takes to keep this extermination going with one goal in sight, stop the Palestinians from having their own state on their Stolen Land.
76 years plus since the west handed over Palestine to the Zionists and the people of Palestine are Rejecting it, simple as that.
JboneInTheZone
How do these two points contradict eachother? 14,000 Hamas terrorists being killed and remaining Hamas terrorists regrouping in the North can both be true at the same time
Corey
As to the question, when will Palestinians rise up against their Hamas controllers? : Well, you have to ask yourself how many in the population actually support Hamas and its campaign against Israel? Many of us would like to think it’s only a small number, perhaps 10%. But some surveys indicate a different picture - of perhaps 60-70%, or even higher. And many of these sympathize with the Hamas attack of October 7th, which can lead you to conclude they would approve of more “October 7ths”.
Keep this mind when you consider whatever course of action Israel should be taking.
Antiquesaving
Only one problem with this!
The latest UN reports not relying on Hamas number puts the number of women and children at 40% to 50% of those confirmed killed!
That is a minimum 14,000 a Israel claims 14,000 Hamas killed, so we are to believe that 14,000 women and children were killed, 14,000 Hamas but only around 5,000 to 7,000 non Hamas m'en?
Seems very improbable that twice the number of women and children are killed than civilian men.
What is more likely is Israel count's every male killed as "Hamas" which is what several preliminary UN reports are saying!
Then we have the fact Hamas is back fighting in the North which means Israel really didn't eliminate them as claimed!
The IDF and Israel lied about UNRWA members being involved in October 7th, lied about the hospital having Hamas based there because the independent investigator for the UN asked Israel to provide the proof it claimed it had and Israel couldn't provide a single things, it didn't provide some that the UN investigator rejected, no it had nothing, zero not a single thing and when the Whitehouse ask to provide proof of the babies on October 7th again Israel couldn't give the Whitehouse a single piece of proof so the Whitehouse retracted it's statement on that!
Seems Israel and the IDF say/claim a lot but when asked to provide facts and proof they suddenly trunk silent!
Antiquesaving
I notice you regularly cut off the rest of a comment to make something look different.
Nice of you to forget to add the rest with the full breakdown based on UN numbers and Israel's claims.
The propositions just don't add up if we are to believe Israel!
JboneInTheZone
Why is that improbable? Around 47% of the people living in Gaza are under 18, which are classified as children.
Which reports? Can you post them?
When did Israel ever claim to have eliminated all of Hamas? Are you talking about regrouping? If that’s the case then what they mean is that Hamas militants were either killed or driven out of the North and later moved back into the area
There’s literally video of Hamas taking hostages to hospitals in Gaza after 10/7. Do you deny that Hamas used hospitals to operate out of?
“Two of the clips show what Israel says are Hamas militants forcing hostages onto the premises of Al-Shifa Hospital on the morning of the Oct. 7 terrorist attack. NBC News used archive photos to confirm that the first clip does show the reception area of the hospital.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna125948
JboneInTheZone
How don’t they add up? Your math doesn’t make any sense
Antiquesaving
Well that question was answered long before October 7th!
In the west bank Hamas power has been growing!
Proof is that Israel was conducting raids and kidnapping people, students, professors, lawyers, etc... from the West Bank that Israel claimed were spreading Hamas views, then holding them indefinitely in blackhole prisons without charges or trial!
All this did was make Palestinians in the west bank hate Israel more!
Palestinians in the West bank are tired of the regular conquering of more land by illegal settlers backed by the IDF, the inability of the Palestinian authority police to do anything because the IDF will attack them if they even try.
They are fed up with the IDF blowing up things like water cisterns built by the UN to deny them water independence and claim they are stealing water from illegal settlements!
Israel's occupation of the West Bank has pushed more towards Hamas than any other factor!
JboneInTheZone
If you don’t have a source for your claim just say “I don’t have a source” instead of making up such a long excuse
i googled it and didn’t find anything so I’m just going to assume you’re lying
GuruMick
The sun rises each morning.
Hey , can you post a link ?
The "prove it " response is a tactic used in disingenuous debating tactics.
Those advocating the "rule of law " to apply to protesting Uni students would do well to consider "the rule/s of law/war " established by the United Nations and signed off by almost all nations.
However, some nations want to accept some {US praises UN arrest warrant for Putin } and reject others {US condemns calls for arrest warrant for Netanyahu "}.
This shows the fake nature of the powerful "democracies " that want UN Law to apply where they see fit {African nations predominantly }, and give a free pass to other countries considered important in the ruling class' geopolitical carve up of the world.
The US gives a free pass to Israel because it wants Israel as the dominant military power in the oil rich middle east area.
Israel is used by US arms manufacturers as a conduit to nations prohibited by US law , to provide US arms and weapons.
Case in point, India sourced its uranium material for nuclear testing , from Israel, and the original supplier was a US military company.
Israel in turn uses Iran as a threat in order to deflect attention from the illegal occupation in Palestine lands.
As an aside, the UN Charter defines "occupation ", apartheid and genocide.
In genocide "intent " is foremost.
Look at how the IDF leaders and PM and others have called for the destruction of Gaza, blockade of food, water, fuel, electricity etc....their own words condemn them.
RichardPearce
First, when America's pick for ICC Prosecutor can't block the process of declaring Netanyahu a wanted man on genocide charges, denying that it is a genocide is like declaring that climate change isn't happening.
Second, when you are so overwhelmed with fresh mangled bodies of women, children, and old men every day you can't identify them all, the notion that you can separately count the few who are 'legitimate targets' shows a deep, irrational distortion of your thinking process. Especially if the people trying to retrieve and count the dead are distracted by perpetual hunger, sleep deprivation due to a relentless rain of bombs, and a perpetual fear of being kidnapped from home by a genocidal force.
JboneInTheZone
Im not sure where you’re getting your new from because this whole sentence is completely wrong. As of now the ICC prosecutor is applying for warrants, there haven’t been any warrants issued yet. Second of all none of the charges being brought up against Netanyahu are for “genocide”
RichardPearce
Poor man doesn't understand that, other when a political appointee is shortcutting around all the processes that the ICC has to try and prevent politically motivated charges from parasiting legitimacy, someone actually familiar with the ICC (and its precursors the ICTR and the ICTY) says 'in the process' because the Prosecutor asks for a warrant to be issued in the normal course of action needed to bring an official charge of Genocide, then the judges get their own input and authoritze (or rarely refuse to) the warrant and official charges.
zibala
Israeli forces kill dozens of Palestinians in Gaza strikes; battle Hamas in Rafah
This is positive news to see Israel accomplishing what it set out to do--eliminate terrorists. And doing so in compliance wth international law and by limiting civilian casualties of the Gaza settlers and occupiers,
JboneInTheZone
No, The International Criminal Court prosecutor can request a warrant for an official charge of genocide if they have "reasonable grounds to believe" that crimes have been committed. I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea they need other official charges first
zibala
You mean another Arab state? Those Arabs living in the region in 1948 rejected an independent state.
So the problem starts there.
And then there was no push again until 1967.
Seems like those Arabs really don't care.
Problem solved.
JboneInTheZone
Why? Any paper you write at any university will require you to source your claims. It’s literally part of every academic field.
Then you can read their source, trace back where their claiming to have gathered their information from and judge if it’s valid or not
Of course, Israel is a major regional ally of the U.S., obviously they’re going to do all they can to leverage support for their allies. All countries do this.
There is no problem with Palestinian independence but the U.S. believes the terms should be negotiated between Israel and Palestine, not by third parties
luv raina
I am not sure but i think people underestimate what israel can actually do to them if they really want to but they choose to retaliate reactively not proactively which is why we are still having this debate in the first place
Antiquesaving
Because many here includin myself have posted links multiple times at yours and zibala constant requests and many repeatedly only for you to deny we did, ignore and change the subject or point, call anyone involved in the information not acceptable, you don't even acknowledge the 28 resolutions against Israel, you claim you can't find the report on Hamas and UNRWA (which was part of an article published here on JT).
It doesn't matter if we post 500 links to the information or reports you will and have ignored and dismissed them every time!
So no point in playing your game!