Israeli forces pound targets, draw near Gaza City

Oops...the IDF has admitted that there was no fire from the school they shot at and the footage of the gunman in the building was from 2007; the slaughter continues.

The slaughter does continue in the Gaza concentration camp while the world's leaders, led by the US, cheers Israel on. Who cares about the Palestinians? Nothing has changed except the permissible victims.

the IDF has admitted that there was no fire from the school they shot at and the footage of the gunman in the building was from 2007

Is this an "opinion"? If not, you really should provide a link.

This entire situation could have been avoided if Hamas had stopped firing rockets. It's a shame.

cheers Israel on

Go Israel! Rah rah rah!

This entire situation could have been avoided if Hamas had stopped firing rockets. It's a shame.

The rockets could have been avoided if Israel respected the U.N.

If only the Palestinians would be quiet in their prison ghetto, eh?

Link as requested:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054009.html

A big, heavy dude was sitting on me and I stuck a pin in his b@tt whereupon he turned on me and used his brass knuckles on my face and broke my jaw.

I could have avoided that if only I hadn't used my pin.

A big, heavy dude was sitting on me and I stuck a pin in his b@tt whereupon he turned on me and used his brass knuckles on my face and broke my jaw.

I could have avoided that if only I hadn't used my pin.

Heh...Maybe you could have avoided the pin in your arse if you were not starving and imprisoning the dude. Your argument is flawed if you apply the same standards to both parties.

Maybe you could have avoided the pin in your arse if you were not starving and imprisoning the dude.

That was my point. It would have been better to read my post in the context of the posts which went before.

That was your first post on this topic. I am glad we are in agreement however.

I feel it important to point out that there was more than one school shelled by the Israelis. The one that got the most talk was the one that Hamas militants fired mortars nearby to. Your information is not about that in case anyone is confused.

And its a beautiful lesson to everyone how the most heinous actions get the least coverage. While we quibbled another action, the even more nasty one was getting covered up and buried.

Oh, I see we only count the "good" schools Israel blows up. Face it likeitis, the IDF is as bad as Hamas. Hamas uses human shields, Hamas uses human shields!!! But we will ignore the IDF using human shields in the West Bank. There are no good guys in white hats here, they are all guilty of something.

And the article clearly states that "dozens of Palestinians were killed in the attack." Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

A big, heavy dude was sitting on me and I stuck a pin in his b@tt whereupon he turned on me and used his brass knuckles on my face and broke my jaw. I could have avoided that if only I hadn't used my pin.

Unfortunately, friends of the heavy dude control the news, so most people only hear about you sticking a pin... (or about a pin-sticking extremist breaking his own jaw).

Oops...the IDF has admitted that there was no fire from the school they shot at and the footage of the gunman in the building was from 2007; the slaughter continues.

This is one more oops, in their very long list of oops. I am surprised anyone still takes them seriously.

Face it likeitis, the IDF is as bad as Hamas.

You or I would sit down to dinner with the IDF. We wouldn't do the same with Hamas.

A big, heavy dude was sitting on me and I stuck a pin in his b@tt

Why would you stick a pin into a big, heavy dude?

Why would you stick a pin into a big, heavy dude?

A better question is why doesn't anyone ever try to get the heavy dude off the guy?

Moderator: No more on this analogy please.

Unfortunately, friends of the heavy dude control the news, so most people only hear about you sticking a pin... (or about a pin-sticking extremist breaking his own jaw).

Honto, Jack? I had the TV on the background here in Japan tonight and I saw images from the current conflict. The images were Israeli soldiers advancing, then Palestinians running. Then they showed Israeli tanks moving, then Palestinian children crying. Finally they showed smoke coming from Gaza, and Israeli soldiers resting.

From the media coverage here it looks like Hamas doesn't even exist. ;) I've seen websites from the BBC and elsewhere where they obviously have a blanket policy of only showing injured Palestinian civilians. They refuse to show any Palestinian militants whatsoever. If you can find images other than Israeli soldiers or Palestinian civilians, then please send along the link. And no, I'm not kidding. Any worldwide media outlet will do.

The images from the lead stories regarding Gaza on the web:

CNN.com: Gaza with smoke over the city

BBC.com: Armed Israel soldier

Guardian.co.uk: Smoke over Gaza

Aljazeeran.net: A Palestinian standing in rubble

LATimes.com: Smoke over Gaza

LaMonde: Protesters supporting Palestine, damaged buildings in Gaza

The Independent: Same picture with Palestinians holding dead children

CBS News: Smoke over Gaza

MSNBS: Palestinians holding babies ready for burial

ABC news: Palestinians holding an injured child

Fox News: Israeli tank firing

Ah, found one! Fox news.... They have rotating pictures. One is of the tank firing, one is of shells going into Gaza, the next one is again with shells going into Gaza, the next one is of the UN, and finally the have one picture of an Israeli mother ducking for cover from Palestinian rockets.

Not bad.....only took me 11 sites to find one that didn't present the conflict as Israeli weapons vs. Palestinian civilians. Still no pictures of Hamas or Palestinian militants. Can someone help me find just one, please?

Superlib, But what started this conflict was Hamas rockets (the pin), right?

I admit that news channels in recent days has let a few moments of decency slip by (Rosemary Church, Amanpour), probably because they want to keep at least some credibility in this conflict. But where has the media been for the past decades, while the heavy dude was sitting on the guy. The Palestinian situation never received decent coverage. Even today, we still get c-nts like Jim Clancy defending Israel, constantly whining about how the Israelis have suffered so much.

Like I said....just show me one major news website that has a picture of Palestinian militants on their lead story about Gaza. Just one.

SuperLib: Ouch, that unbiased MM has gotta hurt. Old saying that everyone needs to heed, especially considering the fact that if you aren't there you don't know. "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see." This especially applies to the news videos provided by, oh my, mostly Arab news stations. Good old propaganda, people fall for it ALL the time...

Instead of poking the big guy with a pin, why didn't they call for help diplomatically??? Or was it mostly because the democratically elected Hamas is considered by a majority of the countries to be a terrorist orginazation?

Instead of poking the big guy with a pin, why didn't they call for help diplomatically???

Tried that, many times. Americas veto power seems to always get in the way though.

Superlib, instead of having the TV in the background and reading headlines, you should pay attention to the spin. Although, as I admitted, the media appear to have woken up a bit, their spin still tells me Hamas, the terrorists, are responsible for this.

Considering the stuff Isreal is doing now, its getting hard to put a completely pro-Israeli spin on it, but they still try. What they show on the news is still nothing compared to what is actually going on in Gaza. If the news was truly unbiased, the world would be screaming much louder than it is today.

Honto, Jack?

Attarimae jan!

Really? Hamas is responsible for this? How do you figure that? I mean like SuperLib says, you can't even find a picture of Hamas, of them fighting, shooting at Israelis. How do you get that from the media spin. The only thing I get, is the impression that Israel is murdering civilians. So much for unbiased news eh?

Gavinova,

Yes, it was my first post on this topic on this article. It was not my first post on this topic and it certainly was not the first post on this article.

I'm not sure we're in agreement. My opinion is that it is fairly strange for the Israeli army to have driven residents of the occupied territories into Gaza and for Israel to have both denied the Palestinians the right of return and to have failed to provide for the welfare of the Gazans and then complain about the annoyance of largely ineffective incoming rockets.

Israel basically has limited choices. It can resolve to live with the status quo. It can try to make the Palestinians understand they have been defeated, that it has no intention of ever honoring its original commitments to them, and then "allow" them to set up a hangdog, patchwork state next to Israel. It can remove itself completely from the territories it occupied after 1967 on some terms that are acceptable to the Palestinians. Or it can try genocide.

The root problem in today's Middle East is the Palestinian Mandate and the sufferance of the creation of a Jewish state in the middle of land which, even at the time of Israel's formation, was primarily Muslim. However, Israel has strong supporters that are not willing to undo what was a very bad idea. Personally, I think the UN headquarters should be relocated to Jerusalem which sh

oops...

...which should then be declared an international city, but that's not going to happen either.

face it guys, israel is the only one who faces islamic terror by saying no more to the rocket attacks on its cities now hamas regime is hiding under the civilians and blames idf for the results i guess any other country would have done the same if attacked

Israel is not the only state that faces Islamic terror, but it may be the only one that faces Hamas rockets. You cannot be content to ignore the people of Gaza for decades and now pretend to have compassion for them.

But Sez....do you think the right of return is possible? Put another way, do you think you're offering a solution or just encouraging more war by the Palestinians?

Put another way, do you think you're offering a solution or just encouraging more war by the Palestinians?

Neither. I think I'm identifying a problem that has to be resolved. Hamas rockets have now reached the same Ashkelon from which the Israeli army forcibly relocated the Arab Muslim population to Gaza. If the Israelis can manage a 1300-year memory of home, it shouldn't be surprising that the Palestinians can hark back 60 years.

Is that the same Gaza that Palestinian Arabs forced Palestinian Jews who had been there for centuries to leave in 1929?

I guess it shouldn't be surprising that Israeli Jews can hark back centuries.

My point, of course, is that no matter how some would choose to deny it (not saying you are one of them), there is not just one side to this and both (or all) sides need to be address in serious negotiations.

Is that the same Gaza that Palestinian Arabs forced Palestinian Jews who had been there for centuries to leave in 1929?

Probably not. Why would they do such a thing.

Probably not. Why would they do such a thing.

Palestinian Arabs did force Palestinian Jews who had been there for centuries to leave Gaza in 1929. However, I am not surprised you are unaware of this or that you did not even attempt to check the history on the matter. As I wrote, there is not just one side to this and both (or all) sides need to be address in serious negotiations.