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Ivanka Trump testifies she wasn't involved in documents central to her father's civil fraud trial

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By JENNIFER PELTZ and MICHAEL R. SISAK

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For an “Executive Vice President” and self-proclaimed entrepreneur, Daddy’s favorite child sure has a lot of convenient memory lapses.

Maybe she needs one of those cognitive tests that Daddy “aced”?

Person, woman, man, camera, DADDY!

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And while she is sitting there saying “I don’t recall”,

The prosecutor is entering document after document into the record clearly showing her involvement in financing issues without rebuttal.

So although she didn’t set herself aflame like daddy, she actually furthered the prosecution’s case.

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you wouldn’t recall something you weren’t involved in.

if the judge hadn’t already made a ruling before the trial even started the verdict would need to be “not liable” with the case thrown out.

whole bunch of nothing- headed to appeals court.

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Ivanka Trump testifies she wasn't involved in documents central to her father's civil fraud trial

Vanks is totally complicit but she is walking a tightrope here.

Her inheritance probably is getting smaller by the day and her ànd Jarrod's brand and connections are much more valuable.

She can't throw daddy under the bus but she could not be distancing harder.

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whole bunch of nothing- headed to appeals court.

You keep saying that, but that doesn't make it true. It's a whole lot, actually. $250+ million "lot of nothing." :)

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if the judge hadn’t already made a ruling before the trial even started the verdict would need to be “not liable” with the case thrown out.

Except the evidence was so overwhelming there's no need for a trial so King Donald can drag this out into eternity.

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you wouldn’t recall something you weren’t involved 

The documents entered into the record while she was suffering from “selective memory loss” prove that she was very much involved.

It was her connection to Deuche Bank that got the organization better terms.

oops.

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you wouldn’t recall something you weren’t involved in.

No. You would say “I wasn’t involved” not “I don’t recall”.

Because she was involved, as other posters have explained.

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She did.

“…..a few documents and correspondence that referenced financial statements, but that was not something I was involved in.”

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BlacklabelToday  07:08 am JST

you wouldn’t recall something you weren’t involved in.

Those pesky emails said otherwise.

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She did.

The prosecutors and evidence say otherwise.

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you wouldn’t recall something you weren’t involved in.

Apparently none of the Trump family have any idea about how their properties were valued. All they know is that it wasn't them doing the valuations, but someone else. Those in charge of the business really weren't involved in these critical matters and they don't know who was.

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She must have found a babysitter...

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It’s just more witch hunting, be glad when Trump’s team ask for a mistrial, and if they doesn’t work they’ll call their own witnesses, either way, this is just not looking good for James and….this judge?

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She must have found a babysitter...

What does that have to do with anything? Seriously?

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The prosecutors and evidence say otherwise

Yet she isn’t even a defendant in the case. How odd.

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The ex-president and Republican 2024 front-runner denies any wrongdoing, as do the other defendants.

As is typical with Trump and trials, his defense lacks facts or the law, just bluster and bombast...let's look at these "defenses"...

He insisted in court Monday that his financial statements actually greatly underestimated his net worth

OK, that's an open admission that he approved and signed financial statements that were fraudulent, and did so with intent to deceive. You "underestimate" your net worth so you don't have to pay taxes on it. So the Moron just admitted to tax fraud....

that a disclaimer absolved him of liability

Think how stupid that statement is - he thinks he can put whatever numbers he wants on his financial statements, and it's the responsibility of the banks and government to "find his lies" and re-state the values... I guess he forget that at the end of each financial statement he signed, there was a paragraph that states "I swear that under penalty of law the information contained in these statements is true and accurate"....

It's no wonder the judge has already ruled in the prosecutor's favor...

He and his two idiot sons just dug their grave deeper with their unhinged testimony....if he and his lawyers were smart, they would have just sent Ivanka to the stand...

Say goodbye to Trump Tower Donald - and in a few months when your criminal trials result in this same outcome, say hello to a cell at Leavenworth...

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Blacklabel

if the judge hadn’t already made a ruling before the trial even started the verdict

The trial started and the judge determined that fraud was committed. That isn't in doubt. It's a bench trial without a jury. What is happening now is to determine how much each of the defendants and the company are culpable and hence the level of disgorgement is required.

would need to be “not liable” with the case thrown out.

The case won't be thrown out.

whole bunch of nothing- headed to appeals court.

Trump will surely appeal. I doubt it will change things, however.

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bass4funk

She must have found a babysitter...

What does that have to do with anything? Seriously?

She filed a motion to not appear before the court to testify, stating that she couldn't appear because it was a "school night".

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Trump has already been found liable and has lost his case. What will it cost him with compensation and business licenses?

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Say goodbye to Trump Tower Donald -

Thank God for Red States

and in a few months when your criminal trials result in this same outcome, say hello to a cell at Leavenworth...

That won’t happen.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/08/17/unlikely-trump-will-go-to-prison/70602388007/

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She filed a motion to not appear before the court to testify, stating that she couldn't appear because it was a "school night".

Yeah, I would say motherhood comes before a political witch hunt.

What will it cost him with compensation and business licenses?

Doesn't really matter, just write a check and be done with it. Florida, Tennessee and Texas could definitely use the business.

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The New York Trump Tower is his most iconic property. Can't move it to a red state.

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Say goodbye to Trump Tower Donald -

Thank God for Red States

Thanks for admitting he's lost his NY business empire...

and in a few months when your criminal trials result in this same outcome, say hello to a cell at Leavenworth...

That won’t happen.

As Pence says, keep praying...

As Turley says, "The case is damning"...

As Barr says, "He's toast"....

ROFL...

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The prosecutors and evidence say otherwise

Yet she isn’t even a defendant in the case. How odd.

It’s called a witness. That she is not a defendant is down to the statute of limitations and dumb luck (the only kind Trumps ever encounter).

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Doesn't really matter, just write a check and be done with it. Florida, Tennessee and Texas could definitely use the business.

New York is the business city of the country. Wall St. Not Florida, Tennessee or Texas.

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bass4funk

She filed a motion to not appear before the court to testify, stating that she couldn't appear because it was a "school night".

Yeah, I would say motherhood comes before a political witch hunt.

Except that this isn't a political witch hunt.

What will it cost him with compensation and business licenses?

Doesn't really matter, just write a check and be done with it. Florida, Tennessee and Texas could definitely use the business

Oh, it will matter deeply to Trump. Imagine what will happen when he has to give up Trump Tower in New York - his identity is so tied up with that building.

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She must have found a babysitter...

What does that have to do with anything? Seriously?

She claimed an undue burden of testifying on a school week.

Fortunately the multiple nannies that she employs so that she can travel via private jet to the Met Gala, a European vacation, or just a quick lunch with the girls in LA were available on short notice - just as they are to all witnesses in all criminal and civil trials, right?

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The New York Trump Tower is his most iconic property. Can't move it to a red state.

Well, you can build a new one

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The US is becoming Australia with so many Kangaroo courts.

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Except that this isn't a political witch hunt.

I disagree.

Oh, it will matter deeply to Trump.

You know him personally?

Imagine what will happen when he has to give up Trump Tower in New York - his identity is so tied up with that building.

Well, if he were poor, it would devastate him, but he can rebuild, having money helps.

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New York is the business city of the country. Wall St. Not Florida, Tennessee or Texas.

Not true and Trump can build wherever he wants and gets a permit.

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bass4funk

Except that this isn't a political witch hunt.

I disagree.

Of course you do.

Oh, it will matter deeply to Trump.

You know him personally?

Yup.

Imagine what will happen when he has to give up Trump Tower in New York - his identity is so tied up with that building.

Well, if he were poor, it would devastate him, but he can rebuild, having money helps.

No amount of money can get Trump Tower in New York back. He'll have to live with the loss.

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bass4funk

The New York Trump Tower is his most iconic property. Can't move it to a red state.

> Well, you can build a new one

Trump does not have the money and it would never have the iconic image of the one in NY.

It is very true, that NY is the business capital of the country which is why Wall St is there.

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Doesn't really matter, just write a check and be done with it. Florida, Tennessee and Texas could definitely use the business.

Florida? When he's said this about the state - “Under Ron DeSantis, Florida has become among the worst states… to live… find economic opportunity… work… retire… raise a family… pay taxes…be safe… rent a home… have a baby… afford energy… die… be a teacher… be a doctor… be a police officer,” 

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/21/donald-trump-says-ron-desantis-created-misery-and-despair-in-florida/70139811007/

Or this: “In Education, Florida ranks among the worst in the Country and on crime statistics, Florida ranked Third Worst in Murder, Third Worst in Rape, and Third Worst in Aggravated Assault. For 2022, Jacksonville was ranked as one of the Top 25 Major Crime Cities in the Country, with Tampa and Orlando not doing much better,” Trump contended.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/597474-trump-florida-desantis/

After saying all that, I'm surprised he's still at Mar-A-Lago, let alone moving his businesses there...

Or is DeSantis really a "rock-star" and Trump is outright lying?

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New York is the business city of the country. Wall St. Not Florida, Tennessee or Texas.

Not true and Trump can build wherever he wants and gets a permit.

Wheres he going to get the money? He’s toxic to every public and private equity or loan operation.

Oh yeah, Russians…

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Every Trump property registered to Trump org OR a wholly owned LLC in the State of NY is subject to the license cancellation and liquidation regardless of physical location.

OOPS.

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To very slightly misquote what was famously said in another case “she would wouldn’t she”.

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Every Trump property registered to Trump org OR a wholly owned LLC in the State of NY is subject to the license cancellation and liquidation regardless of physical location

Regardless of physical location.

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Yet she isn’t even a defendant in the case. How odd.

Do you think witnesses called to testimony have to be defendants? What gave you that idea? How odd.

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It’s funny how people who knew all the players, the room rates of properties, the fine details of construction, people who were business geniuses, who Trump - the so-called “King of debt” said were very involved in all aspects of the business, suddenly do not recall about one very specific and critical aspect of said business.

It almost calls into question their credibility….

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Blacklabel

The prosecutors and evidence say otherwise

Yet she isn’t even a defendant in the case. How odd.

Ever heard of the statute of limitations...

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Trump does not have the money

He absolutely does.

and it would never have the iconic image of the one in NY.

You have other states where you create a new image

It is very true, that NY is the business capital of the country which is why Wall St is there.

True and now many businesses are leaving and moving to Texas, Florida and Tennessee.

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True and now many businesses are leaving and moving to Texas,

Third-world power grid...

Florida...

Per above; "Florida has become among the worst states…to find economic opportunity...

and Tennessee...

12 out of 50 in terms of poverty level...

Maybe they can move to Red States like Kentucky with their re-elected Dem Governor or Virginia with their new Dem Legislature...

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Ivanka entered the courtroom like a fashion model walking down the runway. I was almost expecting to see her flip her hair, turn around and walk back.

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You have other states where you create a new image

Yeah, cause everyone know the smart way to run a business is lose it and then start all over again.

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True and now many businesses are leaving and moving to Texas, Florida and Tennessee.

Is Trump doing this?

Well, you can build a new one

Is Trump going to do this?

Trump has 91 felonies against him.

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True and now many businesses are leaving and moving to Texas, Florida and Tennessee.

How many? Of course we can’t include you or 45 among them, but who else? Give us some big names.

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All this back and forth glee over something that just exists until the appeals court the next day - then starts it all over.

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bass4funk

Trump does not have the money

> He absolutely does.

Trump's wealth including his properties is $2.5 billion.

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Per above; "Florida has become among the worst states…to ****find economic opportunity...

Nice try.

Not my try - those are the words of your Great Orange Oracle... What do you think about that?

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/21/donald-trump-says-ron-desantis-created-misery-and-despair-in-florida/70139811007/

Florida has the 15th best workforce in the nation where it ranked 6th in 2022 but ranked number one for economy. The Sunshine State also ranked #36 in costs of living.

Thank you for pointing out Trump was lying...

“In Education, Florida ranks among the worst in the Country and on crime statistics, Florida ranked Third Worst in Murder, Third Worst in Rape, and Third Worst in Aggravated Assault. For 2022, Jacksonville was ranked as one of the Top 25 Major Crime Cities in the Country, with Tampa and Orlando not doing much better,” Trump contended."

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/597474-trump-florida-desantis/

So what else is Trump lying to you about?

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Trump will lose his appeal like he did with his rape case.

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there’s always the SC. Go for it!

Your defense of Trump so far has been that thousands of property owners falsely and illegally value their properties. I don’t think the SC will even consider taking up an appeal that idiotic.

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bass4funk

Trump's wealth including his properties is $2.5 billion.

> Which is still more than enough.

Not enough to rebuild his empire.

Trump will lose his appeal like he did with his rape case.

> How would you know? Even if that were true there’s always the SC. Go for it!

The SC won't take this case

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Four criminal cases to go.

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Trump's wealth including his properties is $2.5 billion.

Which is still more than enough.

Not when they’ve been turned over to a controller and liquidated as distressed assets, which has already been ordered.

The market likely has a very different estimate of the value of the Trump “brand” (stifles giggle).

I guess the market is wrong too, eh?

It’s a market conspiracy!

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Trump will lose his appeal like he did with his rape case.

How would you know? Even if that were true there’s always the SC. Go for it!*

The SC won't take this case

Maybe he means South Carolina?

Better chance there than at SCOTUS.

12 ( +12 / -0 )

All this back and forth glee over something that just exists until the appeals court the next day - then starts it all over.

People who no much more than you about the appeals process say his chances are virtually nil.

So I’ll go with actual legal experts with actual experience.

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All this back and forth glee over something that just exists until the appeals court the next day - then starts it all over.

times 91. Then is there an appeals court for the appeals court? Trump people are all Jim Jones about Trump. Why not write this psycho off and go with another Republican? There are some I vote for. Romney seems to be decent. Christie. Others. Trump people just want Trump and MTG.

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