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The killing was also condemned by the Muslim Council of Britain, the country’s biggest Muslim umbrella organization.

Good to here.

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He was an aid worker, not an air worker.

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"Here" Ha ha

"hear"

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Bunch of cowards!

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Whoever ordered this minion to do this dirty work has made a fatal error. The writing is on the wall.

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But the libs want to believe there is NO such thing as a war on terror or radical Islam. How many more beheadings does it take before libs wake up and realize this is NOT going away. Heartless barbarians!

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The more this goes on the more I think that Assad had the right idea when he gassed these swines. Maybe it's time to drop poison gas on the areas held by ISIS and exterminate them.

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I wish the media would just ignore these kinds of bullying tactics. The Jihadists, like other bullies, are doing this to get a reaction from the world. If the world-media and governments-didn't make a big deal out of it then, the Jihadists would think of other ways to "shock" and gain attention.

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'But the libs want to believe there is NO such thing as a war on terror or radical Islam'

Well there is clearly a war on terror ( it's been executed with utter incompetence and dishonesty for the most part ) and terrorist attacks in New York, Madrid and London to name three seem to tell us that extremist Islam exists. The issue is the the fact that the war on terror has been about as successful as the war on drugs.

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"The killing was also condemned by the Muslim Council of Britain, the country’s biggest Muslim umbrella organization."

If this is true (I cannot find it in the article) then I applaud the statement. However more is needed; we must create a way for Muslims to distinguish and distance themselves from radical Islam and Muslims must choose to do so or risk being rightfully placed in the category of "supporter of militant/radical Islam." I am an atheist but support the rights of all to practice non-violent religions but the dangers being posed by what some claim are minority radical elements of Islam cannot continue to be ignored. I would welcome any suggestions from the Muslim community as to how the separation of radical Islam from mainstream Islam can be achieved or even if it can be achieved.

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@samwatters. It is true, it was in the UK press this week. Many muslims in the UK have publicly aired their disgust and revulsion of IS and it's actions. IS want western troops on the ground, they want to re-create the Crusades, and want images of invading infidels so they can recruit more silly, naive boys to their cause. They think these beheadings will prompt countries to put troops on the ground. They won't stop.

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But the libs want to believe there is NO such thing as a war on terror or radical Islam. How many more beheadings does it take before libs wake up and realize this is NOT going away. Heartless barbarians!

Well stated Bass. You are exactly right about the Left's unfathomable blindness to the dire challenge that Islamic fundamentalism poses to their own view of the world. It continues to boggle the mind how political correctness could extent to sympathy for the feelings of people that believe in the exact opposite of the Left's own values and beliefs. There are homegrown terrorists that are murdering our service members on military bases and beheading civilians in the workplace and the Obama administration cannot bring itself to call it for what it is - terrorism. Instead he insists on calling it "workplace violence". Everyone knows that is idiotic yet he insists on that term anyway.

So with this latest atrocity to Mr. Henning I also wonder how many more brutal murders will it take for the Left to snap out of their delusional haze and see the world clearly as it is and not as they wish it would be. For all of his supplication to Muslim sensibilities and demeaning of America, Obama is less popular in the Middle East than Bush. Meanwhile, Obama thinks his policy in the region is a success, that Iraq is a stable nation, that ISIS is the junior varsity of terror organizations, and Al Qaeda is on the run. Just two more years and the West will get a new leader that cannot possibly be as bad as Obama.

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IS want western troops on the ground, they want to re-create the Crusades, and want images of invading infidels so they can recruit more silly, naive boys to their cause. They think these beheadings will prompt countries to put troops on the ground.

They think right. Surprisingly astute for a bunch of village people. But obviously they know that instilling fear in bigots will cause them to react.

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What bothers me is that when these pieces of scum are caught, they will get all the "human rights" available, will be tried and kept in a nice warm prison and fed regularly. As much as I dislike violence, exceptions are possible.

RIP Mr Henning, condolences to the Henning family

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I'm used to this MO. They're gonna keep doing it. Its one of those continuous circles that they love to be in. Kill someone, die a "martyr", wash rinse repeat.

Gitmo is gonna become full to over-crowded over the next two decades.

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Just an ordinary taxi driver with a really kind heart who didn't have to go but bravely did because he wanted to make a difference and bring what little relief he could to just a few of the unfortunate victims of the chaos and violence in Syria. It doesn't make any sense at all.

RIP

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@jim

Well there is clearly a war on terror ( it's been executed with utter incompetence and dishonesty for the most part ) and terrorist attacks in New York, Madrid and London to name three seem to tell us that extremist Islam exists. The issue is the the fact that the war on terror has been about as successful as the war on drugs.

Well, many states legalized drugs and that's having negative repercussions on the country, so now we should allow these people to behead and slaughter and butcher anyone they want, since fighting them is useless and a waste of cause. We should all give up and give in to radical Islam, in a nutshell, that's the only thing we can really do.

@stranger

They think right. Surprisingly astute for a bunch of village people. But obviously they know that instilling fear in bigots will cause them to react.

What I really love is ISIS are pissing in their pants because one of the pilots from the UAE is a woman Maj. Al Mansouri combat hardened and puts the fear of Allah in these men. It's their worst nightmare, they fear that if they get killed by a woman, they won't cross over into heaven and be with their 72 virgins. Love it. Just wish there is a camera every time the woman sends a missile towards their direction.

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What bothers me is that when these pieces of scum are caught, they will get all the "human rights" available, will be tried and kept in a nice warm prison and fed regularly. As much as I dislike violence, exceptions are possible

So you think we should sink down to their level? And how will the world ever get better if we were to take that route? If no one is willing to 'be the bigger man', then we will get stuck in a rut, and never improve as a race.

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As the ISIS beheadings go on, we will increasingly become de-sensitized to them. The press will start reporting them as a matter of fact in smaller by-notes, rather then make a big issue of them.

So in that sense, ISIS is already winning.

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I don't believe so, I believe what will happen is either the "civilized" countries will become more vicious in dealing with a vicious enemy. Human rights will be considered and only afforded to those that abide by them in the first place and out the window to those that refuse to.

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It's highly probable that the IS is publicizing these atrocities precisely because they want the US to overreact and send in ground troops. There is no better publicity for radical Muslims than images of dead US soldiers.

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Easy stopped for every one of our side beheaded take one hundred of their citizens at random and do a return beheading on national TV of it.

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Honest Dictator:

" (regarding de-sensitization) I don't believe so "

But is has happened already. E.g. when I grew up in Europe "honor killings" where unthinkable. Today, they a regular occurrence and hardly ever mentioned in European media. Concepts like suicide bombings have become something that we take as given, so we accept invasive airport procedures. Why do you think this is different?

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@stranger

So you think we should sink down to their level?

That would mean, beheading people and killing people in the name of religion. No, but I do mean, using equal amount of brute force to match the enemy to destroy them, NOT manage them like Obama wants. Kill as many as possible

And how will the world ever get better if we were to take that route?

Good question, tell the Islamists, to put down their weapons stop the beheadings, the torture of civilians and forcing and demanding the world to adopt Sharia, stop threatening to bomb western countries and you might have a start at peace and negotiations.

If no one is willing to 'be the bigger man', then we will get stuck in a rut, and never improve as a race.

But when you say that, that is living in the world of make believe being the bigger man in this situation will NOT stop the jihadists? In Iraq, the Christians and Yazizdis don't want to fight with anyone and what did ISIS do? Ran them out, butchered them, which means, ISIS never wants or intends to have peace with any infidel.

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StrangerlandOct. 04, 2014 - 12:39PM JST

''What bothers me is that when these pieces of scum are caught, they will get all the "human rights" available, will be tried and kept in a nice warm prison and fed regularly. As much as I dislike violence, exceptions are possible''

''''So you think we should sink down to their level? And how will the world ever get better if we were to take that route? If no one is willing to 'be the bigger man', then we will get stuck in a rut, and never improve as a race.''''

Anybody tell us the difference between the following and the post shown above:

When these pieces of scum are caught, get all the ‘’human rights’’ available, tried and kept in a nice warm prison and fed regularly, others should not complain, should not try to correct it, or do it otherwise. Why? Because these pieces of scum, with their level, are entitled to the monopoly of cutting off people’s heads, slashing their throats, in public, or private, anyway and anyhow they want; while others, who are of higher levels and therefore should aim at improving themselves as a race, should not violate the monopoly of these pieces of scum.

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Alan Henning had a truly peaceful and generous heart. He loved Muslims as much as non-Muslims. He was a true brother and an example to us all.

It is sad that someone's silly pride meant that he had to die. What an extreme waste.

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Jihadists behead British aid worker; battle for Kurdish town

How can anyone condone the actions of these fanatics? How can anyone try and even justify those actions? How can anyone be against going after those psychopaths? How can anyone be outraged by the actions of the West? How can anyone think that entering a Masque whose leaders preach the same hate filled insanity as those being preached by ISIS and their ilk?

These fanatics and the fanatics that live outside of Muslim countries (No, Norway, Sweden, France and the UK aren't Muslim countries) should be hunted down and dealt with properly. Their beliefs are a virus that they will pass on to the simple minded and other psychopaths.

Time to end this madness and root out all these psychos before they can murder another innocent person!

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USA's and Europe rule of law perfectly allows terrorists to be executed when proven guilty of terrible crimes, and such punishment has happened many times. But if there is not sufficient evidence, they are not punished, Jails are not supposed to be torture chambers. All religions are tolerated. These values have created great societies where ideas and technology flourish, and is used to create fantastic wealth and provide fulfilling and productive lives for many.

On the other hand ISIL has only oil money to buy the weapons they need, a population to hold hostage, and hubris. Their actions are very loud but their power is very shallow. They have zero civilization, zero industrial base, nothing expect money and guns. They are disrespected by the vast majority of Muslims in the world, and by the governments of all Muslim majority nations. Eventually ISIL will crash and burn.

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As the Washing Post reports, we shouldn't forget that the orange jumpsuits used for the beheaded victims are used to mock the use of them for indefinite detainees in the infamous Guantánamo prison and by torture victims at US prisons in Bagram in Afghanistan to Abu Ghraib in Iraq.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/08/28/once-again-militants-use-guantanamos-orange-jumpsuit-in-an-execution/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/captives-held-by-islamic-state-were-waterboarded/2014/08/28/2b4e1962-2ec9-11e4-9b98-848790384093_story.html

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@Craig

Which European state allows for the execution of anyone, whatever they've done?

I'd rather have thought that one thing that distinguishes us from the Americans is the absence of the death penalty....

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"As the Washing(ton) Post reports, we shouldn't forget that the orange jumpsuits used for the beheaded victims are used to mock the use of them for indefinite detainees in the infamous Guantánamo prison and by torture victims at US prisons in Bagram in Afghanistan to Abu Ghraib in Iraq."

Cripes, I guess they should have just beheaded all the detainees in the infamous Gunatanamo prison and in the torture victims at US prisons in Bagram in Afghanistan and Abu Ghraib in Iraq.

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warispeace:

" As the Washing Post reports, we shouldn't forget that the orange jumpsuits used for the beheaded victims are used to mock the use of them for indefinite detainees in the infamous Guantánamo prison and by torture victims at US prisons in Bagram in Afghanistan to Abu Ghraib in Iraq. "

The difference of course being that the "torture" conducted by the US was more like juvenile hazing; meant to insult, but nobody in the process. While ISIS beheadings are very final. If that`s the same to you...

lubracasi:

" Which European state allows for the execution of anyone, "

No individual European country does afaic, but the de-facto EU constitution (the Barcelona treaty) contains the death penalty for treason. So it depends on how far European integration proceeds.

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No, but I do mean, using equal amount of brute force to match the enemy to destroy them, NOT manage them like Obama wants.

Which is exactly what they want.

Kill as many as possible

And the ones that survive will just keep getting supplied with money, guns and recruits, and we'll keep getting sent more of these videos. And to think you're continually going on like an obsessive, boring whacko about how liberals are deluded, naive idiots.

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The War Against Terror grows exponentially. These psychos will soon be swallowed in the full thrust of a bigger, stronger TWAT. Go, Cameron, go!

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The murder of innocents is strictly forbidden in Islam and this is clearly stated in the Koran. The murderer has signed his own death warrant. I sincerely hope that the kind and selfless Mr Henning will be remembered, despite his abhorrent and brutal murder, as a shining example of all that is good in humanity. Rest in peace.

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The murder of innocents is strictly forbidden in Islam and this is clearly stated in the Koran'

It seems it wasn't stated clearly enough. I wish these deities would learn to state things clearly. I find as a mortal I'm able to state most things more clearly and with fewer contradictions in my less than perfect Japanese.

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From a Machiavellian standpoint, the silver lining in all this is that now these extremists neanderthals are coalescing into one easily identifiable and simple to contain territory of little strategic value. Now all we need to do is carefully calibrate the level military engagement enough to keep them coming, like moths to a bug zapper. Those with our passports will have them invalidated and they'll be stuck there, no longer lurking about in your local mosque or brooding with their unemployed friends at the neighbourhood sheesha bar. You chaps want to return to living in the Middle Ages? Be our guests.

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Jihadists behead British aid worker; battle for Kurdish town

He was warned about traveling to Syria, but wanted to help others so badly that he took that chance. And he was repaid for his kindness by being betrayed and murdered.

Betrayed? Yes, betrayed. It is believed that someone in his convoy informed ISIS that he was in the convoy. So they stopped it and he was kidnapped.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2757258/Hostage-Alan-Henning-kidnapped-IS-just-30mins-entering-Syria-thanks-tip-corrupt-official-incredibly-terrorist-group-Al-Qaeda-tried-released-grounds-taking-unIslamic.html

matakaOct. 04, 2014 - 11:31PM JST The murder of innocents is strictly forbidden in Islam and this is clearly stated in the Koran. The murderer has signed his own death warrant.

If that were true, then none of the people that have been slaughtered by those Jihadist would ever of been killed. But they are at war with many peoples and the slaughter they are committing is justified and righteous in the Quran/Qur'an/Koran.

There aren't two or more interpretations of the Quran/Qur'an/Koran, there is only one and if one is to be a good Muslim one must follow every verse of the Quran/Qur'an/Koran to it's letter. So, there are only two types of Muslims, those that follow every verse of the Quran/Qur'an/Koran and those that don't.

These Jihadist's are following every verse of the Quran/Qur'an/Koran, they aren't picking what they like and what they don't. They are being good faithful Muslims. They don't drink, don't smoke, they eat the right foods, don't gamble, they pray 5 times a day, don't converse with unveiled women etc etc etc.

So, the Jihadist killing of those people is justified under Islam, because they are at war with those people (nations). In there eyes the murder of those reporters, aid workers, Shia, Kurds, Christians etc etc etc etc were justified and correct in Islam because they are at war with them.

Again, these Jihadist's are following Quran/Qur'an/Koran to the letter, so they are being righteous.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/majid-rafizadeh/the-false-dichotomy-moderate-muslims-vs-radicals/

The West has turned a blind eye Islam for many years and now the West is seeing the fruits of that mistake, they have reaped for their PC Liberal policies.

Their beliefs haven't been shaped by radical Imam's. No, they are true believers and are following every verse of the Quran/Qur'an/Koran. Many Muslims in the West might claim they aren't following the Quran/Qur'an/Koran because you aren't suppose to kill the innocent.

If one is to be a good Muslim one must follow every verse exactly of the Quran/Qur'an/Koran and nothing else.

http://www.quran-islam.org/articles/a_dozenreasons(P1153).html

But, if one follows the Quran/Qur'an/Koran exactly, well then, many things that we in the West finds offensive are okay in the Quran/Qur'an/Koran.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/majid-rafizadeh/the-false-dichotomy-moderate-muslims-vs-radicals/

http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/martin-bright-dont-just-write-british-jihadists-off-to-bad-islam-9772701.html

matakaOct. 04, 2014 - 11:31PM JST I sincerely hope that the kind and selfless Mr Henning will be remembered, despite his abhorrent and brutal murder, as a shining example of all that is good in humanity. Rest in peace.

It shall be remembered and forgotten until the next gruesome murder by those Jihadist or some other Jihadist in the West. If he would truly be resting in peace he would be home with his wife enjoying himself, but he is dead.

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JoeBigs,

Thanks for quoting twice from a blog whose slogan is "Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

Of course it's all true

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JoeBigs, you cannot follow every letter of the Qu'ran as it says completely opposite things in different places. These people are taking what they like out of it and ignoring the rest.

Try reading it first.

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Nandakamanda:

" JoeBigs, you cannot follow every letter of the Qu'ran as it says completely opposite things in different places. These people are taking what they like out of it and ignoring the rest. "

Yes, but if you put the verses put in chronological order, you see a clear progression. And I assume that you have heard of abrogation ("nask")? The latter verses abrogate the earlier verses. I.e. the more aggressive commands of the Mekka verses abrogate the tolerant commands of the Medina verses.

ISIS of course knows that and follows that.

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SenseNotSoCommonOct. 05, 2014 - 09:23AM JST JoeBigs, Thanks for quoting twice from a blog whose slogan is "Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out." Of course it's all true

It is easier to try and mock what someone says than even try and disprove it. If you could disprove anything that I have said you would have, but instead you mock my posts.

Please by all means disprove what I have posted, by all means do so.

But, as usual I suspect you would rather not try, because we both know you can't.

nandakandamandaOct. 05, 2014 - 11:15AM JST JoeBigs, you cannot follow every letter of the Qu'ran as it says completely opposite things in different places. These people are taking what they like out of it and ignoring the rest.

And that is what the Islamist just can't see because they are so mired in their hate. But to them, they are right and everyone else is wrong and deserves to have their heads removed from their bodies.

Thank you for posting and revealing a truth that the left doesn't want to face. Muslim extremist are wrong.......

nandakandamandaOct. 05, 2014 - 11:15AM JST Try reading it first.

I have many times, have you? First off, I am a student of history and see religions for the tools that they are.

Next, if I have misquoted or misread anything please, by all means point to a verse or a comment that I have made that counters anything that Islam teaches.

I await your response, and if you are a Muslim peace be upon you.

I may not believe, but I do respect.

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Mataka:

" The murder of innocents is strictly forbidden in Islam and this is clearly stated in the Koran. "

The problem with that is the definition of "innocent". For radicals like ISIS, we are not "innocent", because we have rejected Allah.

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@Joe Bigs,

but instead you mock my posts

Playing the ball, not the man, Joe. We all cherry pick, sure, but there are plenty of much more credible right-leaning resources out there. Some of them make great and entertaining (if not quite compelling to this student) reading.

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SensenotCommon:

" Playing the ball, not the man, Joe. "

It seems to me that is what you are doing. You don´t address the content that JoBigs quoted; only the source. Attacking the messenger is not argument.

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You don´t address the content that JoBigs quoted; only the source.

Sorry, @WilliB. I fail to understand what's so controversial about not entertaining content from a bog that relies on a prejudiced slogan for traffic, when there's so much intelligent conservative analysis out there that adds so much value to the conversation.

Perhaps you can help correct the error of my ways? Thank you.

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SenseNotSoCommon:

" I fail to understand what's so controversial about not entertaining content from a bog "

I did not see a link to a "bog", I saw references to several sites. Did you even read any of the referenced articles before dismissing everything with one glib one-liner?

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WilliB,

Glad you get mileage from a typo. There were two links to the aforementioned blog (I'm warming to that not inappropriate typo), two links to UK tabloids, and a link to another, .org site whose provenance I can't identify.

As years of pre-internet experience have left me with little trust in the Daily Mail or Evening Standard's objectivity, I paid a quick visit to the blog, to be confronted by their intemperate slogan.

What exactly do you expect from me, WilliB?

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" What exactly do you expect from me, WilliB? "

Addressing the content instead of weaseling out by bashing the messenger. But that is too much to ask, perhaps.

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I feel sorry for these blokes getting behead and all but who in their RIGHT MIND would even think of going into SYRIA etc..now?? You wanna volunteer, plenty of people who need food, clothing, love etc..on the streets of London, New York etc..why do something so silly and dangerous?? You go into a DANGEROUS COUNTRY and just expect the locals to be suddenly NICE?? That is called WISHFUL THINKING and it is NOT BASED ON REALITY! The reality is that the Islamic State, Al Qaeda etc..love to get some Americans,Brits etc..catch them, parade them around on YOUTUBE, humiliate them etc..great propaganda material for the next generation of young, angry youth, just waiting to be JIHADIS.

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Wolfpack:

" Well stated Bass. You are exactly right about the Left's unfathomable blindness to the dire challenge that Islamic fundamentalism poses to their own view of the world. It continues to boggle the mind how political correctness could extent to sympathy for the feelings of people that believe in the exact opposite of the Left's own values and beliefs. "

Well said. The picture of leftist dreamers defending an ideology that will make quick work of them once in power is a sight to behold. Simple ignorance, or a subconscious death wish?

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