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Too early, too few fully vaxxed, and too much Delta strain running rampant.

-13 ( +22 / -35 )

Johnson said legal controls will be replaced by “personal responsibility”

Exactly what I said here many many times before:

Do your best personal prevention and learn to live with the virus.

This Virus will always be around.

6 ( +28 / -22 )

Better late than never. Risk will never be zero. Soon the case numbers will no longer be tracked and the only thing that will matter is the hospitalization rate which in the UK is still low (in spite of increasing delta cases).

13 ( +26 / -13 )

Because “personal responsibility” worked so well with polio....

1 ( +17 / -16 )

Great news. The vaccinations have helped turn the virus into nothing more than a flu (for those vaccinated).

Now we need to vaccinate (with proper vaccines) the countries where it’s rampant. Indonesia, India etc, to reduce the risk of more variants otherwise we’ll get another “Modhi variant.”

0 ( +15 / -15 )

Great. Finally some sense, only those at risk and with underlying conditions need wear a mask anyway

-1 ( +18 / -19 )

Johnson said legal controls will be replaced by “personal responsibility”

You're on your own now, peasants.

“We must reconcile ourselves, sadly, to more deaths from COVID.”

Bring out your dead:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=343839620691825&set=a.270915731317548&type=3

10 ( +26 / -16 )

More than 99% of recent COVID deaths in US involve unvaccinated people, a 'sad and tragic' situation, Fauci says:

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Fauci%3A+More+than+99%25+of+people+who+died+from+COVID-19+in+June+were+not+vaccinated&fr=yfp-t&ei=UTF-8&fp=1

10 ( +12 / -2 )

Ah, we all have to make sacrifices. Grandparents, the infirm… phwah!

-1 ( +12 / -13 )

and watch UK fatalities rise again. What a buffoon

-1 ( +20 / -21 )

I was afraid this sort of thing was coming. Singapore proposed the idea the other day of just giving up.

Now this capitulation. It's obvious what is going to happen.

0 ( +16 / -16 )

The UK economy is going marvellously!

The elderly and mostly everyone over 40-50 has been vaccinated.

Certain areas populated by immigrants and the less well informed have been slow to take up the vaccines.

It’s all going well and makes Japan seem a world away..,

3 ( +19 / -16 )

I'm all for personal responsibility where one's own health is concerned, but we're talking about a highly contagious, deadly disease. Since when do we leave it up to the individual whether or not they act to protect other people?

There's no smoking indoors in the UK. There are speed limits, alcohol limits and licenses required on the roads. It's a serious criminal offense to knowingly give a person HIV.

These laws exist because if something is 1% inconvenient, people won't do it, even if it protects others. Especially bosses if something stands in the way of a profit.

Johnson is just trying to abdicate responsibility at a time when Britain needs him to make tough, possibly unpopular calls. But I can't say I'm surprised.

11 ( +22 / -11 )

I would argue that most Brits know what to do to protect themselves by now

-6 ( +11 / -17 )

and watch UK fatalities rise again. What a buffoon

Because of the widespread vaccination numbers in the UK they have not seen the increase in hospitalisation associated with previous waves. Pretty much everyone over 40 has had both jabs and only a small number have not had one. Quite a few of the unvaccinated will have had the illness previously.

It is still a decision that will result in more infections and some more deaths, but there is a balance to be set between restricting the freedom of a large number of people and protecting a small number of people who are generally very old already.

It might sound a bit callous, but deaths from COVID-19 are running at a bit over a 500 a month, which is about 1% of the deaths you would normally see in the UK (about 600,000 die a year anyway).

3 ( +12 / -9 )

Avenger- Fauci also said Texas and Florida would spike in cases and fatalities when they lifted all restrictions in March. Dr. Doom has no answer when confronted with it.

The “99%” figure makes for good headlines but is pretty meaningless when there are so few fatalities now from COVID and they continue to go down.

-4 ( +9 / -13 )

Because of the widespread vaccination numbers in the UK they have not seen the increase in hospitalisation associated with previous waves. Pretty much everyone over 40 has had both jabs and only a small number have not had one. Quite a few of the unvaccinated will have had the illness previously.

It is still a decision that will result in more infections and some more deaths, but there is a balance to be set between restricting the freedom of a large number of people and protecting a small number of people who are generally very old already.

It might sound a bit callous, but deaths from COVID-19 are running at a bit over a 500 a month, which is about 1% of the deaths you would normally see in the UK (about 600,000 die a year anyway).

all excellent points. But at this rate we still don't know what effect the Delta variant will have and how protected vaccinated people will be-

I would argue it would be prudent to adopt a wait and see approach before opening up completely.

9 ( +15 / -6 )

Johnson said legal controls will be replaced by “personal responsibility”

It’s the only way forward; instead of remaining paralyzed with fear.

-6 ( +16 / -22 )

And so Sweden was right after all.

-13 ( +9 / -22 )

Um, no. The only way forward is to get 80% of the population immunized with a second shot that needs 14 days to become fully effective. THEN and only then, is it truly safe to drop mask mandates. Currently the UK is at 64%. That is too low.

Funny how we didn't rely on personal responsibility to fight small pox and polio.

6 ( +16 / -10 )

Even Bo Jo has realised you can't kill the virus with lockdowns,so has gone to Plan B.Get the jabs and hope for the best.Lol!!

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

It’s the only way forward; instead of remaining paralyzed with fear.

There is no debate about what the way forward is. It is about the timing and whether it should be decided by politicians or scientists.

The UK has messed up the timing of eased restrictions at least twice before, leading to unnecessary spikes in the virus, many deaths, and ultimately a longer pandemic with more economic damage.

Countries with stricter border controls (can't blame the EU) and stricter lockdowns had far fewer deaths and far less economic damage. Our good friends in Australia and New Zealand.

1 ( +9 / -8 )

when common sense prevails...it took ages but....

-9 ( +6 / -15 )

Funny how we didn't rely on personal responsibility to fight small pox and polio.

Maybe we should?

People in the UK (having seen the pandemic in Japan and the UK personally) were more, not less rigorous about mask wearing than the Japanese.

The Germans were ultra ultra careful having also been there this year and seen their attitude s

However, the UK is coming out of this mess and the economy is flying unlike Japan

The only crap thing has been the rain…

-3 ( +7 / -10 )

Other countries believe 'wow they're doing great!' But people in Britain are doing protest about these health system, NHS, nurses, doctors which foreigners rarely know about it. Same in Japan as well.

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

"Taken back control" (from Covid-19)? The Tory clown show goes on, but the self-congratulatory applause will soon die as the reality of a pandemic probably not yet done claims more victims. It is to be feared that the July 19 "freedom day" will be all too much, too soon.

2 ( +11 / -9 )

Too Bad as now Nature will clean house. unfortunately innocent people will die, for example the youth of nations.

Seems like this will be a world event as around 50% of the world population will exercise thier selfishness to themselves, not their family, friends, country and the whole human race. The right to live or die and conflict pain on the innocent ones who feel it is for the good of all.

As John F. Kennedy said "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country

5 ( +12 / -7 )

Finally some sense, only those at risk and with underlying conditions need wear a mask anyway

My understanding is that masks are worn to help prevent spread rather than offering significant protection for the wearer.

You wear masks out of consideration for those with underlying conditions.

Has there been a major shift in this view?

16 ( +20 / -4 )

About time! With over 70s and high risk groups vaccinated this is less dangerous than the flu. No need to cater to the hypochondriac s anymore!

-9 ( +6 / -15 )

Jimizo

going home soon, yes?

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

I'm all for it! Except for the masks in closed and crowded spaces!

How many times we have to say the masks do little protection but almost entirely prevents the spread if worn by the infected (often asymptomatic)!

3 ( +6 / -3 )

Christ, this character has been useless and lying since the day he was born. He really doesn't reassure me on anything. Don't forget, this is a guy who tried to use his connections to do a hit-job on a reporter for a close friend who was later jailed for staging his own robbery.

6 ( +11 / -5 )

It is having the confidence that members of the public will, when the legal restrictions are rescinded not taking leave of their senses.

UK, more than 128,000 lives lost, is a truly shocking number.........

It the risk to life, then weighing up a more balance approach.

I believe that social distancing saves lives. I also believe that masks sends out a clear message you care for your fellow shoppers, friends and neighbors.

Should these two behaviors be legislatively enforced? Especially on UK public transport system?

Johnson has surrounded himself with like minded politicians and advisers.

It's akin to an athlete deciding it easer to attempt the 110 meter hurdles by simply running through the hurdles instead of jumping over them.

*Episode #44 - Delta variant and vaccines*

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/media-resources/science-in-5/episode-44---delta-variant-and-vaccines

1 ( +6 / -5 )

you are pleabs to a machine and the machine says your life is no longer worth the losses to our shareholders

2 ( +9 / -7 )

actually "Britain" doesn't plan to scrap face masks and all measures.....ENGLAND does. The other nations may follow suit but at the moment the Scottish parliament, the Welsh parliament and the N. Ireland assembly have said they may retain some measures and don't plan on relaxing the rules fully.

3 ( +8 / -5 )

you will go to the office because the machine tells you to. It will have nothing to do with your choice, personal safety, or public health. The machine must be obeyed. We cannot change the machine to accept the new normal but must fall back to the old normal so the machine is happy. When the hospitals fill up we'll ask you to go home. We sold you out for a pint and a $4 hair dryer

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

My understanding is that masks are worn to help prevent spread rather than offering significant protection for the wearer.

You wear masks out of consideration for those with underlying conditions.

Masks do nothing if you don't have symptoms.....even for asymptomatic carriers, the fine droplets associated with how this group can spread the disease is not adequately filtered by the typical masks worn by people.

Wearing masks out of consideration for those with underlying conditions....while it sounds nice, is actually just virtue signalling writ large......social distancing has a good effect as does staying home when you have symptoms or have found out you have potentially been exposed. Short of going around in hermetically sealed suits, that's the best that can be done. As you mentioned, masks do NOT protect the wearer from inhaling viral particles......unless you are wearing N95 respirators or better.

-11 ( +3 / -14 )

Will the people continue to make the right decisions?

0 ( +4 / -4 )

carpslidyToday 08:47 am JST

And so Sweden was right after all.

What an outrageous claim. The Swedish government abdicated any responsibility for managing the virus more than a year ago, when the pandemic in Europe was at its beginning and there was no vaccine. That's why its total number of cases is 26th worst in the world in terms of numbers and why it has a far higher number of deaths than anywhere else in Scandinavia. Johnson is abdicating responsibility now, when the AstraZeneca vaccine has done a great though not complete job of breaking the nexus between number of cases and number of deaths. Of course this is after he also lost the plot at about the same time Sweden did, which is why the UK's death toll is one of the highest in the world. AstraZeneca has truly pulled his ass out of the fire.

The Swedish government, and its chief adviser Anders Tegnell, has even admitted that its initial response to the virus was the wrong call, so let's not hear any more rubbish about Sweden ever having been a role model for any other country.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/sweden-admits-coronavirus-strategy-underestimated-strenght-virus-lofven-stefan-2020-12?r=US&IR=T

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/man-behind-sweden-s-controversial-coronavirus-strategy-admits-mistakes-20200603-p54z99.html

9 ( +12 / -3 )

Learn to live with the virus…

That’s the worst option chosen.

4 ( +9 / -5 )

Monty:

Exactly what I said here many many times before:

Do your best personal prevention and learn to live with the virus.

Sure. You have said this here many times before. But for what you say to be an effective strategy, you have to assume that everyone will do the right thing. Suppose someone else's lack of personal responsibility is responsible for the infections and deaths of my seriously ill sister or brother-in-law? What then?

7 ( +10 / -3 )

After full vaccination risk of serious infection is low. When all people have been offered a jab all restrictions should be lifted. I'm not sure if UK is there yet though.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Wearing masks out of consideration for those with underlying conditions....while it sounds nice, is actually just virtue signalling writ large

Yawn. What’s next? ‘Scamdemic’? Alex Berenson? Hysterics about vaccines?

Jimizo

going home soon, yes?

Off home for a while and then looks like we’re off to the US.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

That’s the worst option chosen

So would it be safe to say, you're one of those, who want to live under a rock or lockdown until the virus is completely extinct? Asking for a friend.

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

Johnson says UK must die with virus as he eases restrictions

3 ( +8 / -5 )

I'm all for personal responsibility where one's own health is concerned, but we're talking about a highly contagious, deadly disease. Since when do we leave it up to the individual whether or not they act to protect other people?*

More like the seasonal flu.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Is there something the gov knows that we don't? Hancock the man who's been reiterating day in and day out, social distancing, wear a mask, wash your hands, stay in your bubble, has been breaking all these rules and.....no covid, no infection, no hospitalization, no dying....that's what the conspiracy theorists are saying. Um, makes you think

-10 ( +0 / -10 )

When will England reach herd immunity?

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Johnson says UK must live with virus

Of course. He is just stating the obvious. The virus is out there and can not be put back in the bottle (or lab, as it were). It is gradually getting weaker and endemic as viruses always do. We do not live in a sterile world, nor could we! This overreaction has to end.

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

BigYen

What an outrageous claim. The Swedish government abdicated any responsibility for managing the virus more than a year ago, when the pandemic in Europe was at its beginning and there was no vaccine. That's why its total number of cases is 26th worst in the world in terms of numbers and why it has a far higher number of deaths than anywhere else in Scandinavia.

None of this is correct. Sweden followed are more traditional and common sense approach than many countries that overreacted. The higher death rates as compared to Norway and Denmark are due to the large, centralized, care facilities that Sweden uses compared to her neighbours. The deaths are overwhelming among old people with existing conditions and not spread evenly in the population. Try to avoid falling for simplistic narratives.

-12 ( +4 / -16 )

Lambda variant (from Peru) - "Hold my beer that I just bought from the bar Mr Johnson"

Interestingly tests in Chile have shown that the only vaccine effective against the Lambda variant is the CoronaVac from China.

The ABC here is Australia is reporting the first case here. Peru have the highest deaths per head of population in the world and 80% were infected with this variant.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Interestingly tests in Chile have shown that the only vaccine effective against the Lambda variant is the CoronaVac from China.

Do you have more information about this? I'm asking because I just read of of a study from Chile that says the Lambda variant has a higher "immune escape" compared to the Alpha or Gamma variants in relation to antibodies produced in patients who have received the CoronaVac vaccine. No other vaccines were tested in the study.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.28.21259673v1.full

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Additional note regarding the Lambda variant: The link below states, "Researchers in the United States have conducted a study suggesting that the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccines that are currently being rolled out in many countries should be effective against the C.37 lineage (lambda variant) of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)."

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210705/Study-says-mRNA-COVID-vaccines-are-effective-against-Lambda-variant.aspx

4 ( +6 / -2 )

WilliB:

None of this is correct. Sweden followed are more traditional and common sense approach than many countries that overreacted.

Really? You might want to forward your post to King Carl Gustav of Sweden, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven of Sweden, and Anders Tegnell, chief epidemiologist of Sweden, all of whom disagree with your assessment of their performance against the pandemic.

I'm sure they'll appreciate your support.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/sweden-admits-coronavirus-strategy-underestimated-strenght-virus-lofven-stefan-2020-12?r=US&IR=T

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/man-behind-sweden-s-controversial-coronavirus-strategy-admits-mistakes-20200603-p54z99.html

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Too soon. Mask use and social distancing should still apply on public transport and in shops.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Indeed there is no point postponing the inevitable, its the right decision to get back to normal, now that a majority are vaccinated.

However, it's a terrible decision that masks will not remain mandatory in public spaces, on public transport etc Places where people have no choice to avoid. They should keep that at least until they have reached the vaccination targets but possibly beyond. It would simply be for the benefit of all, with no drawback, and it would send a clear message this is far from over. 'Recommendations' dont cut it in the UK.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

@Willi

'Gradually getting weaker and endemic, like all viruses do'

Um, what about Aids, Ebola, Polio... I could go on.

Besides, it's obviously not getting weaker, rather the complete opposite.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Sheikh Yerboaby

actually "Britain" doesn't plan to scrap face masks and all measures.....ENGLAND does. The other nations may follow suit but at the moment the Scottish parliament, the Welsh parliament and the N. Ireland assembly have said they may retain some measures and don't plan on relaxing the rules fully.

You're right. Here in Scotland masks are to remain mandatory whatever relaxations follow. I've become used to my mask now... always with me in my pocket or on my face.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

When viruses mutate it is to a weaker profile

The Delta variant is proof of that

As tens of millions have been vaccinated in the UK then there has been a high level of immunity reached

The crowds at Wimbledon show that the UK is back to normal.

With the horse races previously giving rise to mass infections, I will predict that little if any infections will result due to the crowds at Wimbledon.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

audioboy77:

Your post nails the issues exactly.

Indeed there is no point postponing the inevitable, its the right decision to get back to normal, now that a majority are vaccinated.

As far as the UK is concerned, agreed, as long as some commonsense precautions remain in place.

However, it's a terrible decision that masks will not remain mandatory in public spaces, on public transport etc Places where people have no choice to avoid. They should keep that at least until they have reached the vaccination targets but possibly beyond.

Therein lies the problem, and therein lies the justification for labelling Johnson's decision not to retain mandatory mask-wearing in public places as 'an abdication of responsibility.'

It would simply be for the benefit of all, with no drawback, and it would send a clear message this is far from over. 'Recommendations' dont cut it in the UK.

No, they don't. I think the problem some people posting here have is that they seem completely unaware of just how quickly people in countries such as the UK (or where I live in Australia) will drop commonsense measures such as mask-wearing in public or crowded spaces if there's no legally-mandated compulsion for them to do so.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

It's also remarkable how different the comments are here than they are in articles elsewhere in JT about the Olympics in Tokyo. I don't see the same people making the same kind of comments about just relaxing and letting everything go ahead with the Games because in their opinion, there's really nothing to worry about. Those people might claim that's because the UK is so far ahead of Japan when it comes to the vaccination rollout, but then many of those people are the same people who also don't want to get vaccinated, or who've been advocating against any kind of lockdown or emergency measure ever since this whole thing started 15 months or so ago. I'd like to say you can't have it both ways, but apparently these people think they can.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

Somehow I have managed to survive life in both countries without becoming a casualty of this virus.

It has been fairly easy

However, if I want to find out if I am asymptomatic but a carrier then I am told that I need an antibody test (at my own expense) and that will ‘not’ provide proof that I am.

Many don’t believe in masks

Thus vaccines are the only way out.

The choices are limited...

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

No more masks? About time. They are totally useless but are useful for the authorities in controlling the little people.

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

There is a number of, I suggest consequential government pandemic social economic measures that could have a negative effect to peoples behaviors. furlough..........

Covid: How is furlough changing and when will it end?

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-52135342

Also, working from home.

Employers will judge, which employees are eligible to work from home.

At the present moment over 80% of the my UK business workforce, as soon as there children are able to resume their education/curriculum at there relative schools want to return to their office workstations.

That just isn't possible, we will maintain a social distancing policy.

So there will be a pattern rotation policy. But many have had enough.

If this scenario is present across sectors, the public transport system will be overwhelmed.

Look this has to be carefully thought through.

Freedom day? The tone is pass the buck and to hell with the consequences.

The people , population that have been vaccinated will be protected.

It is the percentage of the population that haven't.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

I for one think it is time to lift the restrictions and see how it goes.

For UK closing shop seems easy peasy , so if the no of infections increases or god forbid people start dying again we can always go back to lockdown.

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

see how it goes.

Very well thought out idea.

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

People don't take personal responsibility seriously

8 ( +10 / -2 )

@zichi: Will the people continue to make the right decisions?

Who gets to decide what the right decision is? You?

-11 ( +0 / -11 )

zichiToday  12:26 pm JST

Will the people continue to make the right decisions?

Is this an implication that the right decision is known?

What is that decision?

How was that derived?

Why hide it if it is known?

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

It's really weird how some people become so aggressive and agitated at the idea of others being free to live life as we always have done in the past. If you are concerned about your health, wear a mask; if you are confident and would rather not do so, then don't bother. It's all about freedom, but to so many the very idea is anathema. These are the same type of people who would have been first in the queue to become Stasi neighbourhood spies. They really are quite appalling human beings.

The other characteristic of these people is that they combine an extreme sense of moral and intellectual superiority with, in reality, extreme ignorance and stupidity. No doubt they will be screaming, right now, that 'masks are to protect others, not yourself!', but again they are wrong, as this only applies to the ridiculous, flimsy cotton masks that so many people wear. If you want to protect yourself then wear an N99/FFP3 mask. These do protect the wearer. And then stop trying to tell others how they should live their lives.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Boris Johnson is a politician. That means that any action he takes and any decision he announces has been carefully weighed against the only criterion that matters: “how will I benefit personally and/or professionally from this?”.

You can bet the farm that he is not being swayed by science, or by anything but self-interest.

We should be paying attention to the elite scientists. However their skills lie in research and analysis, and they don’t have the politician’s skill of appealing to the lowest common denominator with populist slogans.

It was ever thus and probably will always be.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

Johnson said legal controls will be replaced by “personal responsibility” when the country moves to the final stage of its lockdown-lifting roadmap

Well adjusted adults have been asking for this from the get-go. Sweden got it right from the get-go.

The weakest generation in history wants the nanny state to make every single decision for them and take away all personal responsibility.

They are scared of the fact they are being asked to make adult decisions for themselves and will be lashing out (as you can see in many of the above posts)

Ignore these people. They are unwell and scared.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

It’s a difficult balance of factors, not all health factors, personally I think we can reduce the legal constraints and open up the economy to a large extent. All the tests so far seem to show that while infections are rising the hospitalisation and death figures are not to the same degree as in previous spikes. There is no doubt that the vaccination programme needs to push forward.

Having said that I do think the wearing of masks in crowded indoor environments should be retained for a while longer (and I hate wearing the bloody things) and there is a case for social distancing to be maintained for a while longer, at least until we have a higher percentage fully vaccinated, though that could be quite soon.

Being a bloody minded bunch of individualists and a tad bolshy to boot the population of this country are not guaranteed to all do the sensible thing. Many will out of social responsibility, even now despite lockdown fatigue, but a significant minority will behave selfishly so there does need to be legally mandated restrictions enforced.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

The great clown Johnson has spoken. He proclaims another massive and dangerous blunder that will cost lives. Will the great British sheeple ever hold him to account?

0 ( +4 / -4 )

Even Bo Jo has realised you can't kill the virus with lockdowns,so has gone to Plan B.Get the jabs and hope for the best.Lol!!

Since the UK was silly enough to let it run rampant in the first place, makes it all the harder to regain control. NZ and Australia show it can be controlled with immediate short sharp lock downs.

Once the horse has bolted it's too late.

Lockdowns are the best protection while people get vaccinated. UK people that travel Internationally will all need to quarantine when they arrive at their destinations regardless of their vaccination status, if covid is still in their community, they can be carriers.

A bad choice for the UK. They need to regain control, but will indeed be a melting pot for new variants to mutate and get loose. I just hope a more deadly variant is not the outcome.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

What a shame western society has become that doing something out of consideration for your neighbor or even a stranger you do not know is now sneered at as 'virtue signaling". I will bet many of these same commenters go to a church that teaches the golden rule. If it always and forever all about you with no consideration for anything greater than your immediate personal wants then the societies we inhabit are doomed to failure. At some point mature adults have to think about what they can do for their country, their city, their neighborhood and sometimes that means you do things you maybe don't like because they are the right thing to do for your community as a whole. We all live in communities and depend on our neighbors and often on strangers for our daily lives. Nobody lives 100% independent of everyone else. If consideration for one's neighbor becomes something the mob punishes then civilized society is impossible.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

LOL! If people were capable of taking ‘personal responsibility’, this pandemic would have been over a year ago. But in a world of maskholes and anti-vaxxers, it’s pretty clear that these overstuffed preschoolers aren’t capable of handling ‘responsibility’

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

That's right now, Bozo. Shrug off responsibility and make the citizens the 'heavies', you chicken.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

For a long time, it looked like Britain's decision to emphasize getting one shot into arms ahead of getting people fully vaccinated was the right thing to do, but now it looks like people with only the first of the two-shot regimen are more susceptible to the Delta variant.

Best of luck to them, and best of luck to all of us.

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