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Jordan executes 2 prisoners after IS killing of pilot

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Now line the rest of these criminal butchers up and execute them, make sure that the whole of isis knows about it too, then go after anyone who is involved in isis, get them all, no mercy they have shown none.

This chapter in the history of the world needs to be drawn to a close and fast. It doesnt look good on humanities resume does it. Stood around watching for two years while the blood thirsty butchers of the middle east ransacked humanity.

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The only language that ISIS understands is violence. And that's the way how they should be dealt with. The pacifists will disagree. Well, what are you going to do? Send them flowers in hope that they will understand that peace and love is the way? Sorry, but that won't cut it.

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Boom! an eye for an eye. But I really doubt ISIS will be sad about these executions. They will continue to kill and kill.

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Jordan warned ISIS about this if their pilot is killed.

From the start, this seemed like a haphazard plan from ISIS. As soon as they heard that Japan was contributing $200M in aid, they went mad and quickly demanded $200M for the lives of 2 Japanese captives. ISIS knew they weren't going to get that $200M, so they knew already they'd have to kill those Japanese captives eventually. Of course the money demand wasn't going to go anywhere, so they killed one captive and changed tact demanding instead a prisoner exchange with Jordan for the other Japanese captive.

Well of course, Jordan for their part would rather have their own pilot in exchange or in addition to the Japanese captive. But ISIS knew they already killed the Jordanian pilot, so now they're stuck in the middle of nowhere caught with their pants down. Oh-oh. So what else can they do but kill that one captive who remains alive, who they were going to kill anyway.

And so, at the end of the day, what has ISIS achieved? A pilot they already killed; 2 Japanese captives who they were going to kill anyways. Yet no money for it; got 2 of their comrades executed in Jordan sooner rather than later; the ire of Japan; and by burning alive the pilot --a fellow Sunni Muslim in a non-Islamic way-- thus opened themselves up for breakup with Sunni Iraqis (who years before broke up with Al-Qaeda of Iraq for the same barbaric practices that went too far).

Nice half thought-up plan there in the midst of nerd rage to Japan's promise of aid.

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I thought IS was supposed to be good at the propaganda game... letting a fighter pilot get shot down and captured was a black-eye for the Jordanian regime, in a country where air strikes against fellow Muslims wasn't a very popular policy. Burning said pilot alive? That's an outrage... literally. I can think of few better ways to turn Jordanian public opinion against IS.

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Interesting that this has now become a Muslim country responding to ISIS and its terror, and siding with the U.S. in trying to eradicate them. Guess the argument that ISIS has been making that they are defending Islam from the U.S. boogie man has some holes in it. This is not a West versus Islam fight. It is a fight of humanity versus barbarism.

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A sensible move. Many more can be smoked from the air, though, and without annoying questions from people unwilling to fight these animals.

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Ditto everyone's comments. Jordan executed two, essentially in a way acceptable to most of civilized society. Hmm...maybe they should have just let Sajida al-Rishawi and Ziad al-Karbouly out and face the Jordanian public. Wonder how that would have gone...

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No,no, Sajida was a symbol, an important symbol for the terrorists, sort of an inspiration, and Jordan made her a martyr. No, they should have killed the symbol before the person- that would enrage, but also bewilder and hurt ISIS. Jordan should have drugged her and filmed her eating pork chops, drinking alchohol and shaggin' infidels, and enjoying it. Then this all goes online. This will be the end of Sajida, as a person and a symbol. But it will be such big huge insult to the whole idea of Islam promoted by ISIS, and it would damage the very image of ISIS among their followers.

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Triumvere:

" literally. I can think of few better ways to turn Jordanian public opinion against IS. "

According to local reports, that is not happening at all. Rather, the majority of the Jordan`s Sunni population is opposed to the Jordanian involvement in the US (infidel) led "coalition" against ISIS:

We should not confuse what is happening with what we´d like to be happening.

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More trouble on the horizon watch as Jordan starts to have internal strife if not careful

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@lostrune2

That pretty much sums it up.

Adiditionally, many voices in the US urged restraint in regards to the executions by claiming that justice should not be a retatliatory tool. King Abdullah, who is a wise and restrained leader was aware of this, but the public outrage was so great that he knew the only logical conclusion was to sign off on their executions to avoid full scale riots,....And the world is not a worse off place for his decision.

ISIS has made a huge miscalculation and it is precisely actions like this that will lead to its dissolution. The question is for how long and at what cost in terms of the sheer human misery they bring to the table. Misery and nothing else. They fail even as terrorists-as the predominant emotion they inspire is not fear-but anger on a global scale/

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By killing the Jordanian pilot, we have seen once more that all these crimes doesn't have any relation with Islam. Islam orders not to kill! Terrorism has no religion!

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@WilliB

Interesting. Got any links for us? I'm well aware, that Jordanians haven't shown much support for attacking IS, and I'm not expecting things to flip over night, but I can't help thinking this will hurt IS more than Jordan in the long run. Also note the pilot was from a wealthy and influential clan....

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Mehmetonsoy:

" Terrorism has no religion! "

ISIS certainly does. As does Boko Haram. Or are you telling us they are a random assortment of Buddhist, Hindus, Amish and whatnot? Get real.

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This crime proves once and for all that there's no point wasting time trying to reason with people who are as deranged as this. I cannot see one way in which this is good for IS/Daesh. Antogonising absolutely everyone is not a policy which really makes any sense at all, unless they are trying for the titles of both the most stupid and the most brutal terrorist group ever.

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I usually don't feel that two wrongs make a right, but in this case I'm willing to make an exception.

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By killing the Jordanian pilot, we have seen once more that all these crimes doesn't have any relation with Islam. Islam orders not to kill! Terrorism has no religion!

Tell that to the terrorists that invoke Allah's name before they chop someone's head off.

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jerseyboy: " It is a fight of humanity versus barbarism."

I'm not suggesting it's you who's said it's a fight against Islam at all (in fact, I know you are referring to others), but I believe this isn't the first Muslim nation to go against IS.

In any case, Jordan is living up to its threats, but sadly it will make zero difference to those in IS that these people have been killed, and ultimately it is just being down out of anger and spite -- and putting someone to death regardless of the reason, is still murder. And not that IS was ever truly going to negotiate, but they certainly never will now.

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Government spokesman Mohammed al-Momani identified the two prisoners executed by hanging early Wednesday as Sajida al-Rishawi and Ziad al-Karbouly.

Now that's how you do it, next they should kill off every other ISIS prisoner and do it quick!

ISIS is scared, they fear the bombings and now will fear a blood war. Nothing like a blood feud to make things interesting.

Just a matter of time before Jihadi John and the rest of his Western terrorist friends try and sneak back into their home nations to get away from the hell that is raining down on them!.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30904382

I just wish that Western leaders would have the b@!!$ to treat them like they have treated their prisoners.

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According to local reports, that is not happening at all.

Actually according to local reports it most definitely is happening.

'"Those criminals cannot be compared to Moath," said al-Kasasbeh's father, Safi, referring to the prisoners' execution. "Moath's blood is much more valued than these two prisoners."

He called on the Jordanian government to execute all prisoners with links to ISIS. "Annihilate this organization," he said.

His sentiments found voice on the streets of Amman, the capital, and in the pilot's hometown.

One demonstrator held a poster that read: "They burned our hearts, so let's burn their dens, and their prisoners in our prisons."'

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Jordan executed two al-Qaida prisoners before dawn Wednesday, a government spokesman said, just hours after Islamic State militants released a video purportedly showing a captured Jordanian pilot being burned alive in a cage.

Barbarians on both sides ....

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frontandcentre:

" Antogonising absolutely everyone is not a policy which really makes any sense at all, unless they are trying for the titles of both the most stupid and the most brutal terrorist group ever. "

More wishful thinking. Their success and media savy demonstrate that they are certainly not "stupid". And obviously they have NOT antagonized "everyone" in the region; if that was the case, the Sunni tribes in the area would have gotten rid them long ago. Fact is that the Sunnis in Iraq obviously live rather under ISIS than under the Shia run Baghdad government (thanks for that, GWB!). And many Sunnis in Eastern Syria obviously live rather und ISIS than under the Alevite Assad government (and thanks Obama for helping to remove that!).

All you guys who think this is somehow a case of "ISIS vs everyone else" have not done your homework on the history of the region.

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@StormR

Your suggestion seems based purely on revenge for the IS beheadings. They already believe from the recent bombings that their enemies are overly brutal. Not sure what the answer is, but All of them that are killed will be celebrated martyrs. Just saying.

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Rather, the majority of the Jordan`s Sunni population is opposed to the Jordanian involvement in the US (infidel) led "coalition" against ISIS:

Really? Have a single number or reliable source to support that? Both NBC and CNN are reporting just the opposite.

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Seems to me that this group of hooligans is neither "Islamic" nor a "State". The term DAESH is useful as apparently it has derogatory double entendres. May all of DAESH burn in hell eternally after Allah spits on them and tells them they will never defile his name again.

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shiboriate:

" Seems to me that this group of hooligans is neither "Islamic" nor a "State". "

Fact is, they are very much islamic, and they have a de-facto state, complete with territory, population, government, system of laws (radical Shariah) and rudimentary administration.

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Now here is proof that he was killed well before Abe spoke out and donated money. Some people on here were acting like Abe is the reason as if they were terrorist mind readers. The Japanese hostages and the pilot were dead as soon as they were captured.

RIP to the pilot and hopefully Jordan has the intelligence to find the scum and do the same exact thing in return.

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WilliB - I'm afraid it is not a fact that DAESH is "Islamic" - many authorities around the middle east appear to refute your interpretation. Cf. the following: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/arab-world-unites-condemn-barbaric-114242649.html

A "state" typically issues or adopts a currency and controls the supply of said currency via a central bank. It's my understanding that DAESH wants to do that but has been unable to. You need 3 currencies to travel from the east of their occupied areas to the west. Someone described their control of some pieces of land as a cross between a mafia, insurgents, and terrorists. I think recognizing DAESH as a state is misguided.

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shiboritate:

" many authorities around the middle east appear to refute your interpretation. "

Of course, "authorities" are against ISIS, now that the caliphate threatens their own rule. That does not mean that ISIS is not islamic. And calling each other heretics is a long intra-islamic tradition... e.g. sunnis and shiah have called each other non-islamic for a long time. For us, that means, what? That everybody is un-islamic??

" A "state" typically issues or adopts a currency and controls the supply of said currency via a central bank. "

There have been states before that use non-national currencies. For that matter, the entire Eurozone does. Does that mean for you the member states are not states any more?

" Someone described their control of some pieces of land as a cross between a mafia, insurgents, and terrorists. I think recognizing DAESH as a state is misguided. "

The land they control is generally contigious, and the population completely Sunni (others have been genocided or fled). Their principles are entirely in line with history, and describing Daesh as a nacent state is simply realistic.

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