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Trump's team cites First Amendment in contesting charges in Georgia election interference case

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By KATE BRUMBACK

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Communications in the context of a criminal conspiracy are never protected free speech. Whether or not the words are true or not is not material. The communication was part of an organized criminal conspiracy.

17 ( +18 / -1 )

This is laughable.

The idea that the 1st Amendment gives an elected politician the right to conspire to commit a crime and to attempt to pressure a public officer to violate the law - both of which Trump is charged with doing is farcical.

This is flailing to further delay because he has no defense.

He is guilty AF.

Lordy, there are tapes.

It’s honestly disappointing that the circuit judge is even entertaining a hearing and not issuing a ruling from the bench.

17 ( +17 / -0 )

There is literally no synonym in the English language which equates the word "find" with "manufacture" or create. 

synonyms for "find" include:

think of

invent

come up with

So you're wrong.

The most damning part of what Trump said is "I want you to ___" to the Georgia SOS. Presidents do not have the "free speech right" to demand something illegal of a state official in furtherance of political gain.

It's so obvious what Trump meant.

14 ( +14 / -0 )

synonyms for "find" include:

think of

As the left always do

invent

Every single day, the left are inventive

come up with

Russian collusion

So you're wrong.

Not at all.

The most damning part of what Trump said is "I want you to ___" to the Georgia SOS. Presidents do not have the "free speech right" to demand something illegal of a state official in furtherance of political gain.

As this case continues to fall apart on its weak merits alone.

It's so obvious what Trump meant.

The left are the very last people to talk about crime.

-19 ( +0 / -19 )

bass4funk

The US Constitution guarantees the right of every American to speak, question and dispute virtually anything without government reprisal. Even if that speech isn't true. It actually makes our country stronger. 

Of course free speech is protected. Absolutely.

But he isn't being convicted on what he said.

He is being convicted on what he tried to do: steal an election.

15 ( +15 / -0 )

--synonyms for "find" include:

--think of

As the left always do

--invent

Every single day, the left are inventive

--come up with

Russian collusion

I think the best strategy when proven wrong is to deflect and make vituperative statements about an imaginary "left".

14 ( +14 / -0 )

The First Amendment does not include trying to overthrow the Constitution on Jan 6 and trying to overcome the Georgia election results. The Trump call to Georgia was recorded.

He recently said if he loses the 2024 election, "all hell will be let loose."

15 ( +15 / -0 )

A totally frivolous claim - the only judge in the entire country who would entertain them is Aileen Qannon, and she's trying a different case in a different state.

11 ( +11 / -0 )

I think some people need a refresher course on the first amendment and the constitution.

If they look in their 45 Bible (King James version because it’s public domain) they can find the US Constitution handily bound together, none of that pesky separation of church and state business.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

I think the best strategy when proven wrong is to deflect and make vituperative statements about an imaginary "left".

If that were the case, but seeing that it’s not wrong. I’m not going to call a penguin a pigeon when it’s not and no matter how I want it, that sea-dwelling bird won’t fly. Food for thought Plastic.

-18 ( +0 / -18 )

Trump is selling sneakers, bibles, and a bag of lies.

11 ( +11 / -0 )

I’m not going to call a penguin a pigeon when it’s not

Check your thesaurus. Your claim about the synonyms for "find" is wrong.

Fact.

12 ( +12 / -0 )

The other is team hates the country

Jeez . . .

11 ( +11 / -0 )

Check your thesaurus. Your claim about the synonyms for "find" is wrong.

Fact.

As usual, you’re not getting it. Lol

Jeez . . .

Welcome to my world…

-13 ( +1 / -14 )

HopeSpringsEternal

GA Fannie Willis case is dead in the water,

How so? The First Amendment angle won't win.

Trump's team keeping it alive as an election prop,

I doubt it. Trump doesn't want this case to be kept alive.

exposing true nature of Fannie

Who is Fannie?

and her coordinated efforts with Biden Admin.

She isn't coordinated efforts with the Biden administration.

12 ( +13 / -1 )

Trump is trying to shut down this case. Not keeping it alive.

14 ( +14 / -0 )

Trump is trying to shut down this case. Not keeping it alive.

I would too. Hey, the left are trying to do whatever they can legal or nefarious ways to get Trump, I don’t begrudge the man for doing whatever he can to not get snared up in their trap, I would use every method myself legal or nefarious. As if this guy is supposed to make their job easier, what a joke.

-15 ( +0 / -15 )

the left are trying to do whatever they can

One trick pony.

13 ( +13 / -0 )

bass4funk

I would too. Hey, the left are trying to do whatever they can legal or nefarious ways to get Trump,

This case has nothing to do with the left.

11 ( +11 / -0 )

For those who might doubt Bass’ razor sharp wit and a cunning debate style

Appreciate that.

I submit the above. 

Bring your A game, he’s a mighty opponent!

Flattery will get you somewhere.

This case has nothing to do with the left.

That's like saying NASA has nothing to do with space.

One trick pony.

Biden would say that for sure.

-13 ( +0 / -13 )

bass4funk

This case has nothing to do with the left.

That's like saying NASA has nothing to do with space.

No, it's not.

Prove how the left is involved in this case.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

and the argument went over like a lead balloon.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

No, it's not. 

Yes, it is.

Prove how the left is involved in this case.

Every prosecutor going after Trump is a lib, the Justice Department, the President, the Democrats, all the judges except the one in Florida that the Dems are trying to get dismissed. So yeah…not sure what the news across the pond is saying, not that it matters for the U.S.

-16 ( +0 / -16 )

Every prosecutor going after Trump is a lib, the Justice Department, the President, the Democrats, all the judges except the one in Florida that the Dems are trying to get dismissed

That’s not correct. But even if it were what would be strange about it?

What’s your news flash that those ‘going after’ 45 don’t like him? Most people don’t like him.

All of those trying to indict Biden, what team are they on? Any ‘libs’ in there?

10 ( +10 / -0 )

So, he doesn't have a good defense at all, clearly.

I hope there is jail time during his sentencing. The laws of GA say up to 2 yrs for each vote tampering attempt and up to $2000 fine. He was trying to tamper with 11000 votes.

The DA issues don't take away from Trump's attempt at vote tampering. Not at all.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

The DA issues don't take away from Trump's attempt at vote tampering. Not at all.

Two points. DA takes away from timing. Second, what you and media call vote tampering, others call trying to ensure integrity of the election. Executive power's scope includes issues pertaining to election integrity.

-14 ( +0 / -14 )

*the left** are trying to do whatever they can*

One trick pony.

more like “dead horse”

10 ( +10 / -0 )

One trick pony.

Biden would say that for sure.

Most people would say that for sure. Just look at your downvotes.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

bass4funk

Prove how the left is involved in this case.

Every prosecutor going after Trump is a lib, the Justice Department, the President, the Democrats, all the judges

Sure. This is not unusual. Many people are Democrats. But it doesn't prove that the left are trying to do whatever they can legal or nefarious ways to get Trump.

except the one in Florida that the Dems are trying to get dismissed.

The Dems aren't trying to get her dismissed, but the Special Counsel Jack Smith might. Not because she was appointed by Trump, but because she is making a mess of the case through incompetence.

She has already been admonished, twice, by the very conservative 11th circuit of appeals.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Every prosecutor going after Trump is a lib

Did you try that defence when you were prosecuted and jailed for driving quickly?

If you did, it obviously didn't work.

11 ( +11 / -0 )

Every prosecutor going after Trump is a lib

Probably because "libs" believe and invented the modern rule of law, while others, such as Trump, believe in violent overthrow.

12 ( +12 / -0 )

Prove how the left is involved in this case.

I just did.

Sure. This is not unusual. Many people are Democrats. But it doesn't prove that the left are trying to do whatever they can legal or nefarious ways to get Trump.

Well, it does if you like at the history of it since 2016

The Dems aren't trying to get her dismissed,

They are.

but the Special Counsel Jack Smith might.

He as well.

Not because she was appointed by Trump, but because she is making a mess of the case through incompetence. 

Ahh, is that what the leftist sites say in your country? Lol

She has already been admonished, twice, by the very conservative 11th circuit of appeals

A bit different.

-14 ( +0 / -14 )

The charges against Donald Trump in the Georgia election interference case seek to criminalize political speech and advocacy conduct that the First Amendment protects, a lawyer for the former president said Thursday as he argued that the indictment should be dismissed.

Trump's legal team - a bunch of has been, bottom-feeder, quacks that are so hard up they chance working for a guy that stiffed his "favorite lawyer", Rudy Giuliani of $2 million in legal fees...

“Defendant is not being prosecuted simply for making false statements ... but rather for knowingly making false statements in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy and obstructing the electoral process,” Chutkan wrote.

BINGO! So try to explain how authorizing an illegal break-in of a secure Georgia polling location with the intent to tamper with voting machines is "free speech"....

I guess John Dillinger should have used that defense when he was robbing banks...

Welcome to MAGA-world...

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bass4funk

Sure. This is not unusual. Many people are Democrats. But it doesn't prove that the left are trying to do whatever they can legal or nefarious ways to get Trump.

Well, it does if you like at the history of it since 2016

No. It doesn't. It doesn't prove that the prosecutors, Special Counsel Jack Smith, or judges are doing anything other than their job to uphold justice.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

In the previous election, 80 million didn't vote for Trump.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

lol. Always good for a chuckle

Can’t say the same for this administration

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bidens-campaign-is-panicking-because-momentum-is-on-trump-s-side-karoline-leavitt/vi-BB1hyyI3

No. It doesn't.

Yes, it does.

It doesn't prove that the prosecutors,

It absolutely does, look at the history, if you don’t want to acknowledge it, it really doesn’t matter, you have no dog in the game.

Special Counsel Jack Smith, or judges are doing anything other than their job to uphold justice.

That’s like saying placing a kindergarten school in Epstein’s hands as guidance counselor is because of his ability to uphold the students integrity

-12 ( +0 / -12 )

bass4funk

Not because she was appointed by Trump, but because she is making a mess of the case through incompetence. 

Ahh, is that what the leftist sites say in your country? Lol

I'm not sure if you realise, but the internet is global. I look at sites in the US.

Of course, this just a deflection from having to admit that she is a "Loose Cannon"

5 ( +6 / -1 )

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